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  Disfellowshiping only began in 1952!! Before this Witnesses were immoral!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many witnesses lived together in sin or had many wives before 1952 during the rutherford era, this was frowned apoun but no one was disfellowshiped unless they did something major like critisize rutherford!

  then in watch.

  may 15 1944 and finally watch 1/3 1952, disfellowshiping was invented.

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  I had JW family in San Francisco during the 1930s. They told me some outrageous stuff was going on openly....even by Circuit Overseers and Pioneers.
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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  enough,...... "so I am wondering if it is more difficult to leave/fade if you are a high hour publisher vs low hour, MS or elder vs rank and file..." ANY drastic change attracts attention...unless you move Halls or location.

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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  Balaamsass2

  I am glad we moved halls and faded. 75% of JW family and locals do shun or "avoid" us, but it makes our everyday lives easier. It made it possible to get some old friends and family out of the borg. It was also easier to care for elderly relatives.
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  Balaamsass2

  Rutherford and Knorr were "preppers".

  Many of GB 1.0 in the 70s went out in service alone in NYC. I remember seeing GB Brother Ganges (sp) doing magazine work ALONE in the subway station in the late 70s. Many GB 1.0 members had "traveling companions" for trips to their local NYC congregations in the 70s and 80s. Prudent, but not paranoid behavior IMO.

  I traveled into the fringes of Bed-Sty, a high crime low-income area of Government housing with a WT corporate member/GB "helper" weekly while at Bethel. GB member Ray Franz regularly went in service in a similar area with his Haitian Congregation. Another GB member (Sydlick) had a huge Golden Gloves ex-champ travel with him and his wife to meetings....

  "....about 15 million Americans are actively prepping right now. In terms of percentage of households, we are at or about to cross 10% of all households. And just a few years ago, that was 2% or 3%." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preppers-60-minutes-2022-11-06/
  

  The new Headquarters buildings remind me of a fortified Cult compound. I imagine process servers and Marshals have some difficulty serving papers. :)
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  Gestapo Tactics - the Wayne Rogers story

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://ajwrb.org/experiences/gestapo-tactics-the-wayne-rogers-story.

  gestapo tactics the wayne rogers storyposted on july 27, 2014 by lee elderfreedom of thought is a right that many people take for granted.

  there are many people who believe they have freedom of thought, but are mistaken.

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  Balaamsass2

  Bringing this back up. This story was #1 on my JW Google news scan today. Is the victim a group member? Any updates?
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  Balaamsass2

  The "bunker" mentality goes back to Rutherford. As a kid in the '60s, I remember public talks about preparing to go "underground" during "persecution and the use of reversible coats. In one talk, a school friend demonstrated his reversible coat and foldable hat on the stage during the hour talk by an Elder.

  Bethel had more tunnels than a rabbit family in the 70s.

  And of course, we can't forget GB 2.0's bunker fantasy.
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  Elders testing some promising men by talking like an apostate?

  by Person in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  couple years ago as a promising ms i had some weird conversations with two young elders.

  it was always as we where alone only i and the elder.

  they would initiate a conversations about things like blood doctrine, celebrating birthdays, view on homosexuality etc.

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  Balaamsass2

  It is not unusual behavior for backstabers in any organization or cult.
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  Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the kingdom hall is still empty.

  even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.

  the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.

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  Balaamsass2

  I had an old High School friend who is PIMO call me a couple of Sundays ago. He told me was enjoying a cocktail on the deck and throwing a ball for the dog..... while logged in (dark) on Zoom..."Attending" the meeting.....lol.
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  Numbers

  by moley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are they fudging there numbers to make it seem that there’s no decrease .

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  Balaamsass2

  Since a cornerstone belief of Watchtower management is "Theocratic Strategy" (Lying), why would any member expect the truth? If the accounts reports before and during conventions are manipulated, why would the annual report be accurate?