Silent Budda saw him. The taxes are getting paid. = proof of life. Good enough for me.
If someone wants proof, Send a card/letter, check$$, or tracked package.
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
Silent Budda saw him. The taxes are getting paid. = proof of life. Good enough for me.
If someone wants proof, Send a card/letter, check$$, or tracked package.
out of curiosity, i went to the jw website to see if they had posted anything about helene, it's damage, and what their relief plans may be, i any.
i looked in the news and in video sections to see if there were any postings.
i couldn't find anything.
i have followed an ex-jw website that has many articles on the past history of the wts and current articles using wt publications to tell the real truth not just the edited wt version.
considering recent changes this link to df'ing was updated in august 2024. it is worth a serious read, puts things in categories and has timely comments from a long-time ex-jw from australia, ex-bethelite and father is a circuit overseer.
i have used this many times so i don't "reinvent the wheel" when discussing certain topics on jwn.
Great post. :)
Fascinating thread.
How many EX Elders are on this site?
How many CURRENT Elders are on this site?
calamity howling is always in style with some folks, every year.
1974 was 50 years ago this year!
i was fresh out of high school bright eyed and earnest about all things jw and watchtower.
Joey JoJo :)
"As an Aussie, living in the southern hemisphere I find that mildly insulting." Actually it is a plus.
According to "prepping experts" rural Aussies are well situated should WW3 occur. Northern Hemisphere Jet Streams and Winds would kill millions as prevailing winds spread fallout from the various combative parties in USA, NATO, RUSSIA, CHINA and the Eastern Bloc . (once again "Worldly Dad" worked on nuclear triggers, stealth, microwaves, and reverse engineering Soviet Tech at work, and felt "the soviets preferred Electro Magnetic Pulse weapons to avoid excess fallout contamination in hopes of subjugating/enslaving their foes". His advice: "Store 30-120 days of silver, food, and water just in case you are lucky enough to survive the initial attack"-eeek!). :(
Personally, after LEAVING Watchtower, I now prefer to enjoy the remainder of my final years, go with the odds, and not get all worked up about possible "Armageddons" and every worst case scenario.
calamity howling is always in style with some folks, every year.
1974 was 50 years ago this year!
i was fresh out of high school bright eyed and earnest about all things jw and watchtower.
IF you REALLY think World War Three is about to start. It is time to get off this site, get that passport updated, buy and load up a sturdy well equipped sailboat, and then find a new home in the undeveloped southern hemisphere.
Staying home with a years worth of Prepper supplies, or expecting to book a flight at the last minute won't cut it... if real nukes start flying around. Radiation sickness and cancer are a shitty way to die slowly. Remember, the fossil record shows Sky Daddy didn't save the dinosaurs. :)
worse than being stupid is thinking you are smart while you are stupid.. i should know.. for many years i was a special category of "stupid"; i was jehovah's witness stupid.. .
what does that entail?
listen and i'll tell you.. ___________________________________________________________.
YES, I was JW stupid for many years as well!
Being brought up in Watchtower affected my life negatively in soooooo many ways.
I always did well in school and at work, but believing the "END" was "just around the corner" affected many life decisions negatively. "Failure to plan...is planning to fail."
calamity howling is always in style with some folks, every year.
1974 was 50 years ago this year!
i was fresh out of high school bright eyed and earnest about all things jw and watchtower.
Calamity howling is always in style with some folks, every year.
1974 was 50 years ago this year! I was fresh out of high school bright eyed and earnest about all things JW and Watchtower. I was earning $10 an hour working full time manufacturing tiny parts for those new-fangled computers. Every talk from the platforms at my Kingdom Hall, and Conventions warned of the END OF THE WORLD as we know it!!! WOW!! 1975 was the END OF 6,000 years of man’s existence on the planet-according to JWs!! (My non-JW dad rolled his eyes about Watchtower’s teachings and prodded me to go to college, save 10%+ of every paycheck, and buy a house. He said: if you don’t go to college, at least do the same work for Hewitt Packard Corp., buy a house, save, get a decent pension and benefits, and you will be set in your old age!)
BUT… At the time all the calamity howlers, preppers, and Watchtower seemed right! The US had just lost the Vietnam War to China’s and the USSR’s proxy North Vietnam. The Soviets seemed unstoppable. Nixon had just resigned in disgrace. The inflation rate was 11.1%! 1974 was a Bear market, and stocks tumbled 43%! The Dow was down to 570 on Dec 9, 1974 (42,124. 9/24/24). Watchtower predicted that people would soon be “throwing their worthless money in the streets!”. Mom and many JW relatives ran up credit card balances, or sold homes, or quit jobs expecting to “never have to pay back debts in this system”!! (Meanwhile, Dad rolled his eyes and invested in more real estate and stocks).
Who did I listen to in 1974? Calamity howling JWs, “EXPERTS” and WATCHTOWER!! After much prodding from the magazines, books, the platform and local elders, I quit my full-time job and started to pioneer!! A year later I went to Bethel!! After returning from Bethel, I pioneered and went to where the need was great! I didn’t save a penny! Always out in Serve-us. Poverty ensued, while THE END did not arrive in 1975,76,77,78,79,80,81, or 1982 and on and on. The 1914 Generation DID pass away by the 90s! (Meanwhile Dad had just kept his corporate job, and kept investing, while politely rolling his eyes at me).
Had I ignored Watchtower, AND popular press Calamity Howlers of 1974, and simply listened to my “Worldly” Dad, how much money would I have now by simply investing $166 per month ($8 work day) in a retirement account with an average S&P stock return of 11% for 50 years??? $3,354,829.90. Yes, folks, THREE MILLION DOLLARS. Lesson? Simple 6th grade math, compound interest, and common sense would have beat Watchtower and all the calamity howlers of 1974….and 2024.
https://www.investor.gov/financial-tools-calculators/calculators/compound-interest-calculator
thehttps://youtu.be/ycplox56-rk?si=l51-gppfzccoguhd u.s. department of state’s 2024 report on religious freedom sheds light on various challenges faced by minority religious groups around the world.
while the report covers many nations, one of the key regions of focus is japan, where jehovah’s witnesses are encountering growing hostility amidst a shifting legal and social landscape.
this article explores the issues jehovah’s witnesses face in japan and the broader implications for religious freedom in the country.. ### the u.s. report: focus on cults and minority groups.
Russels and Rutherford's loud and in-your-face USA public relations campaigns and theology don't translate well in all cultures.
Child abuse isn't acceptable in any modern culture.
say it ain’t so!
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in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?
Lol. I thought this is an EX JW forum discussing a thread about a possible NEW NEW Newer flip flop from headquarters!! Instead it is being hijacked by a couple of self appointed G.E.D. Theologians. :) I guess we could also discuss how many angels can dance on a pin head, the REAL number of buttons on Santa Claus' tunic, or exactly how long can the Greek God Poseidon hold his breath underwater!