Richard J. If you have a smart-phone, Pad etc can you get 4g at Bethel?
I was a stone age new boy.
Balaamsass2
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Do any Bethel/WT ip addresses visit here often?
by EndofMysteries inwebsite owners can get reports of ip addresses that visit their website.
it would be funny to find out if this site gets regular visits from wt locations.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Balaamsass2
More MONEY MONEY MONEY...Give us your MONEY. Apostate children are seducing elders and then suing us. We need Money!!!!!!
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"Jehovah is really blessing our family! Thanks for your visit"
by stuckinarut2 inso i am being hounded by the elders who are staring to get suspicious about our "slackening off in the truth".
rather than being railroaded or pushed into a defensive or argumentative situation, i am keeping the following comment up my sleeve:.
"jehovah is really blessing our family life.
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Third Gen has been using this "Friendly" technique for the last few months when running into JWs at the Grocery store and at Costco etc. Works like a charm. When approached with a big smile, hug, and "Couldn't be better" many JWs jaws drop open. They have been programed to believe if they quit life will go to Sh### . It visibly shakes them up to see you HAPPY and RELAXED.
If you tell them you have been BLESSED they nearly short circuit. Once you ask about their ner-do -well relative (or a local Hall scandal). "How Isssss So and So doing? They can't remember their name almost. She comes home laughing from some of these incidents now.
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Social media strategy to expose JW molestation issues
by JimmyPage inthere are a lot of jws who will never hear about the molestation issues the wt has because all their friends on social media are fellow cult members.. what i'm going to attempt is to create a profile for an alter ego.
it will have a profile pic and banner that says "jw.org" or some other pro-jw nonsense.. then i will attempt to befriend a jw.
when one bites and accepts me the others will fall like dominoes and also accept my friendship.. at first i will post pro-jw things that will get me "likes", subscribers, and promotions in their news feed.. then i will lower the boom by posting the recent news video from the texas molestation story.
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Jimmy...Great idea!!!!!. Use the "friend Finder" look for "Jehovah's" Witnesses. Post news stories but say "Look what those nasty apostates are saying- I don't believe it do you? don't forget to "Friend" all the local news people. Twitter works great as well.
Also act like a stupid JW and post PRO JW beliefs that are INSANE. Quote old WTBTS stuff that is WAY out there. lol Go on Gay, Lesbian, and news paper stories and tell everyone God is going to strike them dead, and they need to stop eating spicy foods and wearing tight clothes. Womens rights sites, tell them they need to stop dressing so sexy. Islamic sites- tell them tehy will DIE at Armagedon. Have some fun. (Open your new gmail & FB accounts from a remote ISP.)
Like Simon said- "You can't unring a bell"- Some things just continue to crawl around in peoples heads.
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"Jehovah is really blessing our family! Thanks for your visit"
by stuckinarut2 inso i am being hounded by the elders who are staring to get suspicious about our "slackening off in the truth".
rather than being railroaded or pushed into a defensive or argumentative situation, i am keeping the following comment up my sleeve:.
"jehovah is really blessing our family life.
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Balaamsass2
Asking Elders about THEIR kids,Families and for Money...WORKS. I know...it used to send me down the road FAST. LOL
We had a few elderly sisters who when you asked "How are you doing" would give you an HONEST answer. YIKES. That meant whoever drew the short straw on the "shepherding " call better show up in jeans, a full set of tools and CASH for supplies at the hardware store.
Being considered "inactive" has had an extra side benefit. Even though I would still chop wood or fix things for any of these elderly JWs they will have nothing to do with me! lol
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Balaamsass2
I have known a few JWs who had expensive "Skills" that were invited to Bethel. Lots of times it is the WIFE who HAS to go to work everyday and gets the lowly "sister" treatment who pressures hubby to leave. Can you imagine some JW Attorneys wife having a snotty nosed Bethel boy overseer telling her HOW to use that vacumm cleaner "Just so" ?
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News story re: Doris Nelson. How many involved are Witnesses?
by LogCon inthere are a number of defendants being sued by the trustee.
two are jw's from vancouver lower mainland.
this b--ch started the business in vancouver and then took it to washington.. here is the list of defendants.. lls america llc, debtor.
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Balaamsass2
A JW Aunt and my Mother in Law were victims of a scam like this. Promised a 30% return. Got a couple of checks and recruited other JWs to join. Everyone -mostly elderly lost 100% eventually and the perp retired to Mexico.
I tried to involve the DAs office but the JWs refused to cooperate or testify against a "Brother".
I can see why some cons target JWs.
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Do any Bethel/WT ip addresses visit here often?
by EndofMysteries inwebsite owners can get reports of ip addresses that visit their website.
it would be funny to find out if this site gets regular visits from wt locations.
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Balaamsass2
OK. Simon, YOU ARE IMPORTANT.
THANKYOU for your hard work.
Just finished lunch and back to work for me.
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WT lawsuits - Gog of Magog - Coalition of Nations - Courts of Law - Bankruptcy
by truthseeker inwhat if the society know it only has to lose one big case to lose a whole set of cases on precedent of the first case?.
this means they will lose millions of dollars in lawsuits and settlements.
which means their financial stability is under threat.
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Actually this post made me smile. No doubt the Governing Body will paint these lawsuits as a Satanic Conspiracy ties in with Bible Prophecy SOMEHOW.
A lot of JWs will lap it up. Others will awaken.
Once the the payouts begin BIG-Time a floodgate of lawsuits will begin world wide....and Watchtower will get the WORLDWIDE PR they have sought...just for the wrong things.
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News story re: Doris Nelson. How many involved are Witnesses?
by LogCon inthere are a number of defendants being sued by the trustee.
two are jw's from vancouver lower mainland.
this b--ch started the business in vancouver and then took it to washington.. here is the list of defendants.. lls america llc, debtor.
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UPDATE IN TODAYS PAPER. Looks like a lot of money was paid to "recruiters".
November 4, 2014 in City
Doris Nelson sentenced to nine years in prison for Little Loan Shoppe fraud
Kip Hill The Spokesman-Review
Tags: Doris Nelson Elizabeth Kelley fraud jeffry finer ponzi scheme sentencing U.S. District CourtEditor’s note: A previous version of this story misidentified Caitlin Baunsgard, the U.S. Assistant Attorney who prosecuted the case, and incorrectly identified Jeffry Finer’s affiliation with regard to the case. This story has been updated to correct and clarify.
A sobbing Doris Nelson apologized Monday to hundreds of people who lost money to an investment scheme she ran for years to support her Little Loan Shoppe online lending business in Spokane. U.S. District Judge Robert Whaley then sentenced her to nine years in prison.
“I don’t quite buy that you began evil,” Whaley told her.
Nelson’s apology met with scoffs from several onlookers who left the courtroom angry. Federal prosecutors wanted Nelson to spend 30 years in federal prison for bilking investors of about $50 million.
Whaley said such a long sentence would verge on vengeance rather than justice.
Nelson pleaded guilty in April to 110 criminal counts of wire fraud, mail fraud and money laundering. There was no plea agreement with prosecutors.
She then retained new lawyers and attempted to withdraw her plea. She failed. She tried again Monday before the sentencing and failed again.
Nelson’s attorney Jeffry Finer said late Monday he is unsure whether Nelson would ask to pursue further legal appeals based on a sentencing result “that was far better than we had feared.”
“I don’t know whether a trial would bear a lower sentence,” said Finer, who worked with attorney Elizabeth Kelley on Nelson’s behalf.
Testifying on Monday were several federal agents assigned to Nelson’s case, which was launched by Canadian authorities in 2001. Also testifying was a longtime employee of Nelson’s, Brittany Becker, who detailed seven years with the Little Loan Shoppe and its undoing that occurred shortly after the economic downturn of 2008.
Much of the questioning by Finer dealt with the details of the federal government’s investigation. An 18-page “master list” of investors in what the government described as a Ponzi scheme was presented as evidence by the government that somewhere around $48 million was lost.
“This is the largest Ponzi scheme in the Eastern District of Washington, and the second-largest in the state of Washington,” said U.S. Assistant Attorney Caitlin Baunsgard.
But Finer questioned where the numbers came from that supported the so-called master list of investors, who put money into Nelson’s business that was then supposed to be used to make high-interest payday-type loans.
The government said Nelson instead used some of the newer investor funds to pay on older ones as the business faltered. Prosecutors also said Nelson used the money to fund an extravagant lifestyle.
Many investors who lost money live in Canada and are members of the Jehovah’s Witness religious community, a factor Baunsgard pointed out in asking that Nelson spend 30 years behind bars.
Whaley ruled Nelson’s scam was not a Ponzi scheme, a finding that allowed defense attorneys to add the amount earned by some investors to the money lost by others and arrive at a total $19 million loss from the scheme. That amount was below a $20 million cutoff for a harsher prison sentence.
Whaley, however, would not rule that Nelson’s actions affected just 40 victims, an argument Kelley made based on the number of victim impact statements received by the courts.
“There are real people you hurt bad,” Whaley said, acknowledging that, as an attorney, he defended a Ponzi scheme case before being assigned to the bench.
Baunsgard asked Whaley to make an example of Nelson, given the notorious reputation Spokane has received in the national press as the fraud capital of America.
Nelson’s nine-year sentence comes a year after Greg Jeffreys also pleaded guilty to defrauding investors out of a little more than $9 million. Jeffreys received an eight-year prison sentence.
Prosecutors will plan to seek $50 million from Nelson to repay investors.
“This is not a number we ask for lightly,” Baunsgard said of the request for 30 years’ imprisonment. “Especially in a fraud case.”
Kelley accused the government of demonizing Nelson, who she patted on the arm and hugged after the sentence was read.
“Doris Nelson is not Spokane’s Bernie Madoff,” Kelley said. “She is a good and trusting woman who got caught up in something that was way over her head.”
Whaley ordered that Nelson may self-report to prison, to which the defendant replied, “God bless you.”