Posts by Balaamsass2

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1975 on the back burner

by Fisherman in

“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.

according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.

it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.

Obviously, the great Watchtower scholar CT Russel stole from earlier writers and mixed in some Egyptology, Occult, Pyramid measurements, and Masonic beliefs to come up with the initial timelines. Later "Scholar" Fredy Franz (who attended one year of College) built on those and was every bit as wrong. He also stole much of his work from earlier religious Bible "math whizzes" from the 1800s and 1600s.

Basing your life and others' expectations on ancient verbal histories and expecting them to be accurate is foolish.

Was there a "flood" that covered the ENTIRE earth in modern history? NO. Was there a global sea level rise at the end of the last ice age that drowned many coastal civilizations around the earth- especially in the Black Sea area? Yes. And of course, people's grandparents described this as a "global flood". https://animations.geol.ucsb.edu/2_infopgs/IP2IceAge/fBlackSeaFlood.html

Did man (Adam & Eve) appear only 7,000 years ago? Of course not. There are CITIES older than that. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-83613665/

We all were forced to sit through boring book studies in the 60s and 70s reciting baloney from "Dr. Strange love".. Fred Franz who perfected his theories with his adoring boy fans in the Bethel Sauna. His bright Red "Life Everlasting" book was studied every week. Watchtower can not escape the fact that so many copies are still floating around.

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CBS NEWS Report: Pittsburgh woman testifies for grand jury investigation into JWs and child abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/video/pittsburgh-woman-testifies-for-grand-jury-investigation-into-jehovahs-witnesses-and-sexual-abuse/#x.

pittsburgh woman testifies for grand jury investigation into jehovah's witnesses and sexual abuse.

kdka investigator andy sheehan interviewed a woman from pittsburgh who's cooperating with an ongoing state investigation into the jehovah's witness church, testifying before a state grand jury about being sexually assaulted when she was 12 years old and how she says church elders told her she was to blame.mar 6, 2023. .

Balaamsass2

I can't believe how Watchtower wants to double down on their understanding of the Bronze age "2 witness rule" in the 21st century. If the governing body is going to stick to the bronze age law, they need to grow long side locks, and beards and add fringe to their coats like orthodox Jews. They should also actually FOLLOW the law in Deuteronomy 22:25-27 regarding rape without witnesses...ONE Witness suffices for the death penalty.

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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany

by EdenOne in

mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.

Balaamsass2

The survivors say he left JWs 18 months ago...but his announcement was only made this week...after his book went on sale in December? Is this another case of Watchtower giving marching orders to Circuit overseers to force local elders to hound woke faders for disfellowshipping for possible "apostasy"...in this case backfiring terribly? (Two local Elders showed up at our door WITH a Circuit Overseer multiple times after we had faded for over TWO years.(..couldn't have an ex-Elder ex-Bethelite roaming around scot-free possibly talking to any local JWs )

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11843851/Germany-shooting-Former-Jehovahs-Witness-named-Bible-study-massacre-gunman.html

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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany

by EdenOne in

mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.

Balaamsass2

7:30 PST. Lots of unanswered questions. I just read the paper, and this is the New York Times story for this morning.

In years past I have known of more than a few people to react angrily when reproved or disfellowshiped...especially when issues of mental illness are not taken into consideration and kindness is not shown by elders.

Here is the link. Hopefully, it allows free viewing. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/world/europe/germany-shooting-jehovahs-witnesses.html?unlocked_article_code=WANVZxJz8Cnwvex0Pq9Qnx1M18Q0QYNNBLXD-xMj_JiGq_o2XhN3iZAcE6Hoe1ShELj40paqtDlmXLs14jgmOHYSteINnfzRHXnfL38KXGRxAXuVrP02nTxoYgv1iw3RoOOWlHyVSVPTbP2icwvzyGTtAZI9NOi2yqgRXq2UNH4MZm_8I4odqd7CQjQV6Dh3l8iqEGyDefabTqRHj-LTD8lrGVtDShhWQ2NzZrRck9T0OliIakB7U9mIWdv2KJ7bG8aaBjdeclknecNu7KkRFy24UH4IVcZA7YAjvoX43zJvxbx0xanM7WsfMitGQQlaTST81pfBlCikGVhZkbGAql_yIJ5RmSPTSGurwGLLjsx3tw&smid=url-share

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Dreading the memorial

by Isambard Crater in

hey.

does anyone else dread attending (in person or on zoom) the memorial months in advance?.

literally as soon as new year hits, i feel sick and super anxious, and i've realised it's because of the memorial, which i only attend because of family, who kinda tell me the reason they have bad health is cuz i left the jw sevel years ago..

Balaamsass2

If you are trying to fade....don't go. Stay gone and off the radar.

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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany

by EdenOne in

mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.

Balaamsass2

Sad news. No one deserves this. I wonder what effect this will have on JWs. Some had the belief they were protected by angels while attending meetings and conventions. Many circuit overseers would talk about JWs who lost their lives BECAUSE they stayed home from a meeting and a disaster like a tornado, civil insurrection, or flood occurred while all the GOOD JWs were at the meeting.

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CBS NEWS Report: Pittsburgh woman testifies for grand jury investigation into JWs and child abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/video/pittsburgh-woman-testifies-for-grand-jury-investigation-into-jehovahs-witnesses-and-sexual-abuse/#x.

pittsburgh woman testifies for grand jury investigation into jehovah's witnesses and sexual abuse.

kdka investigator andy sheehan interviewed a woman from pittsburgh who's cooperating with an ongoing state investigation into the jehovah's witness church, testifying before a state grand jury about being sexually assaulted when she was 12 years old and how she says church elders told her she was to blame.mar 6, 2023. .

Balaamsass2

Thanks, Barbara! We always enjoy your posts!

I find this an important investigation. It is a CRIMINAL investigation of systemic organized criminal activity rather than single "isolated" incidents. Watchtower's standard method of operation of dealing with private law firms by "stall stall stall and appeal appeal appeal" will not serve them as well when dealing with a STATE Attorney General who has already cut her teeth on beating the Catholic Church.

I heard a rumor that Anthony Morris was Ted Jaractz's (sp) "helper" and may have helped craft some of the sex abuse policies at Watchtower that have become a moral, financial, and PR quagmire. Have you heard of this, or any other credible rumors?

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deep thoughts

by lancelink in

this afternoon i drove by an old hall i attended ( barrington illinois) and noticed that it had been sold, it is now an adventist .

church !

now here is my drive-home thinking.. back in the 80's when i attended i was newly married, and had a young child.

Balaamsass2

Lancelink - this thread got me to reread some of the old Menlo Park KH threads from 10+ years ago. They are a great read for anyone newer to this site. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/199355/menlo-park-ca-usa-kingdom-hall

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deep thoughts

by lancelink in

this afternoon i drove by an old hall i attended ( barrington illinois) and noticed that it had been sold, it is now an adventist .

church !

now here is my drive-home thinking.. back in the 80's when i attended i was newly married, and had a young child.

Balaamsass2

Last week I looked up Menlo Park, CA. Kingdom Hall on Google Earth. It was sold...not to nearby Facebook Corp., but to a Spanish evangelical church. After all the hoopla and disfellowshipping of the sincere elders who spoke out about the land grab, I wonder how the local publishers feel when they drive by and see "False Religion" using the building they worked so hard on. The Menlo Park Fiasco brought me and my wife to this group and helped us exit.

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JWs and Prepping

by TD in

jw
friends

the jws i know (which admittedly are more liberal than most) are suddenly into prepping to one degree or another.

some have simply assembled "go bags" with basic common sense supplies in case they need to bug out in the event of a natural disaster and others seem to be seriously into it, almost to the degree to which mormons are.

backup generators and a year's supply of food and water).

Balaamsass2

Yes, it got more extreme in the last 15 years or so. My 80 yr old mom and her sister had "Go bags". My mom couldn't walk one block :) She actually seemed excited about showing people her bag. What I found interesting, is when she was younger she said repeatedly, that "JWs in comparison to Mormons, rely on Jehovah and the angels instead of men and hoarding".

I have always thought having a week's supplies, and prescriptions are a great idea for earthquakes, fires, etc. As a kid, My dad a WW2 veteran, a non-JW (who got stuck on Guadalcanal... undersupplied for months) insisted we always have one-month supplies "just in case".