Underthe radar,
I will never be the one to inform Watchtower.
It is amusing to me that the relatives who are "cheating Watchtower" are very pompous JWs and Elders. lol
Balaamsass2
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When The 'Tower Is Mentioned In A Will
by NotFormer ini assume someone from wt attends the reading of the will.
an elder, a co, some especially selected person from the branch under whose purview this sort of thing is maintained?.
what is the procedure?.
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FOND FAREWELL TO THE BI-MONTHLY AWAKE!
by steve2 inwith the jw congregations about to be informed that the ubiquitous awake!
magazine is to be issued just once a month from january 2006, now is an apt time for interested parties to share brief memories and/or impressions about the bi-monthly awake!
magazines, whether poignant, hard-hitting or humorous.
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Balaamsass2
:) lol Foolednomore
"What Happened to reading the Watchtower and Awake as good as getting a college degree?"
As a kid, if mom saw me reading ANYTHING not JW, she would ask:" Have you read all the latest magazines!?" ...my answer:"Nope". She would then make that often-heard the b.s. statement: "....as good as a college degree." lol Of course within the week she would also say how lying was a sin god hates. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.
by Balaamsass inno doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
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Bill I'm so sorry. I cannot believe how much blood watchtower has on their hands.
The story of the original Menlo park elders is tragic. So is this place in Silicon Valley?? Explains a lot, if so"
Diogenesister, Yes, the Menlo Park Kingdom Hall, was within blocks of Meta/Facebook headquarters, and Stanford University, backed up to US 101(the deciding line between a poor black neighborhood and affluent west Menlo Park and west Palo Alto -ground zero for historical Silicon Valley.
Bill Covert's story is about an event 4 hrs north of Menlo Park in rural Northern California.
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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.
by Balaamsass inno doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
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Balaamsass2
I have been trying to follow up on the Menlo Park situation. If anyone has updates please fill us in.
The sincere and simple original Menlo Park Elders who mistakingly thought the KH Hall land grab was by some unscrupulous local elders with shady pasts, were gobsmacked to learn orders came straight from NEW YORK Bethel....too late...to avoid their "secret disfellowshipping".
The results? Heartbreak, poverty, and divorce. Ex-Elder Cobb's wife was counseled to leave her "Apostate" husband by local Elders. I can not locate him online. :(
Ex-Elder Arlen St Clair's son borrowed his car, only to be closely tailed by an Employee of a local "Elder" (Security director), which turned into a high-speed chase, his being forced off the road, and an injury accident. St Clair's son was hospitalized for days for his injuries. The son was quite shaken and moved from the area.
Ex-Elder, St Clair, alone and broken in his 70s, fell from a roof while washing windows a few years ago. A sad end to a kind and gentle man
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NOT on JW.ORG: Who currently owns the Judges' Beth Sarim 4440 Braeburn Rd San Diego ca 92116?
by Balaamsass inthe other thread on the judge rutherfords death lead me to google beth sarim at 4440 braeburn rd., in san diego ca.
nice digs on google earth.
the home next door is over $800,000 on zillow and trulia.
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Balaamsass2
Nice digs....but check out the " Judge's'" Cad he was driving while millions were in depression-era soup lines.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V-16
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NOT on JW.ORG: Who currently owns the Judges' Beth Sarim 4440 Braeburn Rd San Diego ca 92116?
by Balaamsass inthe other thread on the judge rutherfords death lead me to google beth sarim at 4440 braeburn rd., in san diego ca.
nice digs on google earth.
the home next door is over $800,000 on zillow and trulia.
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Balaamsass2
"Rutherford moved into Beth Sarim in early 1930 and served as caretaker of the property awaiting the resurrection of the "princes". Newspapers of the time reported on Rutherford's lavish lifestyle, which included a 16-cylinder Fisher Fleetwood Cadillac coupe.[25][26][27] The residence was cited by Olin R. Moyle, former legal counsel for Jehovah's Witnesses, in a letter to Rutherford in 1939, as one of the examples of "the difference between the accommodations furnished to you, and your personal attendants, compared with those furnished to some of your brethren"
All during the great depression..$$$$$$$$$
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Sarim
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NOT on JW.ORG: Who currently owns the Judges' Beth Sarim 4440 Braeburn Rd San Diego ca 92116?
by Balaamsass inthe other thread on the judge rutherfords death lead me to google beth sarim at 4440 braeburn rd., in san diego ca.
nice digs on google earth.
the home next door is over $800,000 on zillow and trulia.
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Balaamsass2
Another false prophecy from Watchtower. Has ANY Watchtower prophecy EVER come true?
The last Zillow price on this:
4440 Braeburn Rd, San Diego, CA 92116
Off marketZestimate®: $2,866,300Rent Zestimate®: $8,928https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4440-Braeburn-Rd-San-Diego-CA-92116/140335547_zpid/
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Can you openly express doubts in the congregation these days?
by Elena ini know of a lovely old sister who has been a jw for several decades now who openly expresses doubts about jw interpretations.. she does it in such a lovely way and everyone loves her.
she is such a sweet old soul, makes everyone happy around her.. she has said things like- even if we have got it wrong about this and that i still believe the bible is gods word”.
she answers up regularly and she goes on ministry groups but like most of us she is definitely jwlite, we don’t really do door to door work anymore.
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Balaamsass2
My mom in her 70s and 80s LOVED to screw with and embarrass pompous elders.
She always prominently displayed all the old WT literature in the living room. Russel's "Studies in the Scriptures" set, and photos of her as a kid marching with the "Religion is a snare and racket sign". She was famous for poking fun at terrible speakers in midweek field service, but then she treated the car group to lunch....so she was popular with the sisters. She donated monthly ...by check (so they were reminded who donated)...to the hall, and gave every CO a green handshake. All visitors got a cocktail. :)
She was never DF,d, or reproved. She called Rutherford "a horses ass" and a "woman hater". She reminded Elders her brother was a C.O. I would get phone calls from elders in her halls asking "for me to PLEASE do something about her". lol :)
I simply smiled and said "I'll look into it"..and suggested she had a touch of mad cow..... :)
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Patterson New Visitor Centre & Museum Announced
by raymond frantz inhttps://www.jwupdates.com/post/new-patterson-visitor-center-and-first-century-museum.
january 1, 2024, marked the official opening of the patterson visitor center, located at the watchtower educational center in patterson, new york, u.s.a. the feature museum of the visitors’ center is entitled “first-century bible village.” brother isaiah miller, who works in the museum department at bethel, said: “the bible village was designed to provide everyone with a realistic and educational experience.
studies show that interactive learning has a powerful effect on people of all ages.” after her tour, one visitor exclaimed: “this museum made me feel like i had been transported back to the land of ancient israel.
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Balaamsass2
I had to google references to Ken Ham. What a nut!
He has quite the museum. :)
Children playing with dinosaurs...lol. Reminds me of the old NWT maps -inside covers with dinosaurs in bible times.
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Halloween
by NotFormer injust a bit of idle speculation.. on another thread, a publisher was reported to the elders for smoking 🚬, when all they were actually doing was holding a drinking straw in mcdonald's.. is it plausible to be questioned by elders about wearing something that looks a bit too much like a costume on the 31st of october?
🧛🧜.
for that matter, wearing red and green on the 25th of december?
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Balaamsass2
Toss a coin. Moon phase.
Any random crazy "report" could turn into a congregation gossip event and turn into an investigation by Keystone cop elders. It all depends on the hall, elders, and popularity of the "sinner".