Posts by Paris

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Love believes all things... Comment by a "Duke and Star"!! Today's WT!!

by DATA-DOG in

love believes all things.

what did paul mean??

he meant that if we love jehovah, we believe what we read in the wt magazine.

Paris

Pistoff - Thanks for putting that in context - it is really a glaring example of a special kind of evil in the magazines and in the minds of individual witnesses like the above quoted "Duke the Star" I had a hard time figuring out if the original post was from the WT or what part was a "comment" made by someone referred to as Duke the Star. I have not attended a meeting in so many years this forum is my only way to follow what strange things are going on in the WT now.

A truly creepy comment and so blatantly Cultish. Saying what he said out loud, had to make some people squirm at their own position in supporting this organization and if anyone actually reads the Bible, there is no way this chapter supports anything remotely like a governing body or obedience to magazines or men.

Blondie- I did not mean to offend you, sorry, I could not tell what your position on the things you were quoting or reporting was. It reads like you are neutral or in favor of, its hard to tell just on its face. Again I did not mean it as a personal attack, sorry.

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I LOST IT ... my JW rant today

by talesin in

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well, i just couldn't hold it in anymore.. today, i exploded, talking to my mother about the family inheritance and how i am being screwed.. i told her i had been so angry lately, and just had to tell her what i was thinking, because the anger was slipping out at times, and i was making snide anti-jw comments .... which is not my way.

i'm usually quite direct.. i told her that i couldn't take being treated like a piece of dog you-know-what on the bottom of someone's shoe any longer.. that in the past couple of years, i had learned so much filth about the jws that i was getting more and more disgusted day by day.. i started shouting ... there is nothing wrong with me!!!

why do i have to be shunned when they hide child molesters???.

Paris

I think you were very honest and you deserve validation and respect. You spoke the truth and did not blame your mother, which is amazing, You have every reason to blame her personally but you put the blame on the WT and not her. Few people would have that restraint and kindness. You have a right to speak the truth and tell her the facts and do not allow her to shame you. You have nothing to be ashamed of. The WT is a shaming religion. You are doing more good than any harm you might imagine. After all doesn't she claim to "have the Truth"? So bring on the TRUTH.

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Love believes all things... Comment by a "Duke and Star"!! Today's WT!!

by DATA-DOG in

love believes all things.

what did paul mean??

he meant that if we love jehovah, we believe what we read in the wt magazine.

Paris

If this was true in the 1st century when all were anointed- Blondie

I have news, its the same as it was in the first Century Blondie. Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one hope, one baptism . Anointed means you have the Holy Spirit poured out on you and dwelling in you, it does not mean the Watchtower false doctrine of "anointed" and yet many on this forum although continually claiming they are free from the WT still believe these false doctrines. Why? There are not two classes, there is no "organization" with a "sole channel" Its a lie Blondie. There are no "classes". Jesus never talked about any such thing. The "other sheep not of this fold" referred to the Gentiles and they become one flock with the Jews.

Domestics ? These are WT terms. Anointed and Domestics. These are false doctrines made up by the WT. The term comes from a parable where there are 3 servants who are given bags of gold or "talents" and two of them use what they are given wisely and one burys his in the ground. The parable is not about who rules over who, its about what you do with what you have been given and its about stewardship and responsibility towards the household of God or the Body of Christ , which is everyone who believes, not some limited number referred to as "the anointed" We are ALL anointed, all believers are anointed with the same amount of holy spirit and there are no "classes". Why keep referring to these stale old WT falshoods? As if they exist, they do not.

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Do you think that the Jehovahs Witness religion would be better /worse if their were an equal number of male/female on the G.B.?

by smiddy in

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of course this is a hypothetical question , it will never happen .?

but what if it did , what do you think the society would be like if it did happen .?.

let your imaginations run wild .

Paris

dis-member - No, its not "a joke" 10% brain size, head size, cranial capacity is actually true and scientifically proven. This is by measurements over a large population. But brain density and white matter versus gray matter usage and individual IQ is a better indicator of thinking ability and women's overall capability. Women and men do differ. Women have Harvard Business School has studied women's management skills versus men's:

Briefly Harvard Business School found:

Women; "

“transformational” leadership—getting subordinates to transform their own self-interest into the interest of the group through concern for a broader goal. Moreover, they ascribe their power to personal characteristics like charisma, interpersonal skills, hard work, or personal contacts rather than to organizational stature."

Men:

“transactional” leadership. That is, they view job performance as a series of transactions with subordinates—exchanging rewards for services rendered or punishment for inadequate performance. The men are also more likely to use power that comes from their organizational position and formal authority.

"More specifically, the women encourage participation, share power and information, enhance other people’s self-worth, and get others excited about their work. All these things reflect their belief that allowing employees to contribute and to feel powerful and important is a win-win situation—good for the employees and the organization. " http://hbr.org/1990/11/ways-women-lead/ar/

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Do you think that the Jehovahs Witness religion would be better /worse if their were an equal number of male/female on the G.B.?

by smiddy in

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of course this is a hypothetical question , it will never happen .?

but what if it did , what do you think the society would be like if it did happen .?.

let your imaginations run wild .

Paris

Smiddy - Lets settle this half-truth of women's brains versus men's brains shall we ?

First of all millions of IQ tests given have shown women to be every bit as smart as men. A woman with an IQ of 150 is a genius, and a man with an IQ of 85 is an idiot, no matter what size his weaker brain is.

Second women's brains are denser than mens with less unused space filled with liquid, which means men have more gaps in their brains, again overall size does not help men when portions are virtually empty.

Third Women have more white matter in their brains, speed of data processing occurs is white matter, not gray matter, men have 6.5 times of the slower gray matter.

Women have about 10 times more white matter than men do [source: Carey]. This difference may account for differences in how men and women think. Men seem to think with their gray matter, which is full of active neurons. Women think with the white matter, which consists more of connections between the neurons. In this way, a woman's brain is a bit more complicated in setup, but those connections may allow a woman's brain to work faster than a man's [source: Hotz].

Some women even have as many as 12 percent more neurons than men do [source: Hotz]. In studying women's brains, psychologist Sandra Witelson found that those neurons were most densely crowded on certain layers of the cortex, namely the ones responsible for signals coming in and out of the brain. This, Witelson believed, may be one reason why women tend to score higher on tests that involve language and communication, and she came to believe that these differences were present from birth

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GB member visits Bolton--UK

by bigmac in

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ive pasted the following from a uk xjw facebook page.:.

i found out last night that thursday,just gone, a member of the gb came to rosehill congregation in bolton to tell them the gb will now be more active and a more prominent part of their lives, this is to build trust and make it so when they revel new direction in the future, people don't push against them and they follow them.

it's a long shot shot but what are the chances he will be at any other meeting in this district this sunday and how can i find out?.

Paris

I think this more "cozy" personal look at the GB will end up like every public figure who is over exposed to the public.

It will backfire, big time. When they remained in the shadows people imagined them to be some saint-like "wise men".

When you see their faces, and hear them speak they come across as; out of touch, simple minded, reading from a script, legalistic, fear mongering, hateful, self important.

They will reveal themselves to be exactly who they are, which is self righteous, undereducated, sexist, narrow minded, without compassion, or redeeming qualities. And full of themselves. Controlling. Fond of their own opinions and now the spotlight will show up their weak minds and lack of any real message of substance and lack of spirituality. They offer no comfort, no hope, no real Christian purpose for themsleves or others. They are unmerciful and dishonest.

Its their very plainness and mechanical same old droning on and on and beating people up verbally that hopefully wake more people up to the fact they are not "special" and they do not have any special knowledge or insight and there is no "important work" being done by the Watchtower Society. Its all vanity.

The more they praise themselves and demand obedience the more cultish they appear.

So I say , bring it on, march these seven fools out and show them off and let them speak, because as the Bible says, "out of the heart, the mouth speaks."

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New York University opens its Shanghai Campus

by fulltimestudent in

no need for a comment from me:.

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Paris

Are the empty places on the shelves where the Chinese Communist Dictatorship removed books on Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, and Printed records of the Bill of Rights ? I am assuming they also removed any books on Human Rights, minimum wage, universal education free to all through High School or books on the Democratic Process, The French Revolution, the American Revolution, Ghandi, and I am sure you will not find the writings of Jean-Jacues Rousseau such as On the Social Contract, or his Discourse on the Origin of Inequality.

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The Governing Body Need To Get Their Head Out From In Between Their Derrière And Start Reading What Apostate Sites Are Actually Saying

by frankiespeakin in

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it does no good for the governing body to burry their heads up their ass in denial as to what people who have left are saying about them and their insane selfserving teachings.

i know denial is a real bitch to deal with and i'm sure this bunch of over the hill gang will have a hard time doing google searches and they are probably not sure where to look but they oughta get some one to show them how to find all this information, this willful ignorance is really hurting them, and reality can come crashing in more horrible ways the longer the denial exist and is hiding valuable information you really need before you proceed to make better decisions for your company and the direction you want it to go..

Paris

OMG WE know too much, were all going to be killed, run for your lives.

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The Governing Body Need To Get Their Head Out From In Between Their Derrière And Start Reading What Apostate Sites Are Actually Saying

by frankiespeakin in

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it does no good for the governing body to burry their heads up their ass in denial as to what people who have left are saying about them and their insane selfserving teachings.

i know denial is a real bitch to deal with and i'm sure this bunch of over the hill gang will have a hard time doing google searches and they are probably not sure where to look but they oughta get some one to show them how to find all this information, this willful ignorance is really hurting them, and reality can come crashing in more horrible ways the longer the denial exist and is hiding valuable information you really need before you proceed to make better decisions for your company and the direction you want it to go..

Paris

I don't think they care what they're saying. If all the R&F leave, they'll be left with enough money to buy their own country if they want to. They exude that sense of entitlement that only the wealthy possess. The Shakers are a defunct religion that made a few hangers-on very wealthy.

LOL You got that right !! WHO owns all that money ? Who is in the "Corporation" ? Who has signing and ownership ? Not the poor slobs paying for it all. They sold the New York City buildings for $345 million , divided by seven Governing Body Members, that is about $50,000,000 ( 50 million US dollars each ) And that is the tip of iceberg in worldwide real estate holdings which can be liquidated fast. No complicated "Charities" that they run, no schools or hospitals or slum missions or housing for the poor, no paid employees to worry about, no pension funds, nothing but pure profit.

Who has legal signing rights on the money ? Access to the cash ? The Societies assests and cash are owned by Shareholders of the Corporation.

The number of voting shareholders of the WT Corporation is limited to between 300 and 500 male Jehovah's Witnesses according to google search under WBTS of Pennsylvania. Note: ALL men, no women. You have to know that these puppets of the "voting shareholders " cannot just write themselves a check. ? Or can they ? But they are listed as SHAREHOLDERS in a Corporation, does this mean they hold actual shares ? Do they get dividends on the many investments ? Shares based on real estate and cash and stock market holdings ? They therefore "Own" the society ? This is mindboggling.

IF they actually hold shares on paper, that is traceable through the freedom of information act and the rules of the Securities and Exchange commision. There has to be a dollar worth assigned to the share. Its an oligarchy of shareholders.

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Demon attacks on JW in past, where'd they go?

by thedepressedsoul in

in the 80's and 90's (maybe even earlier) i remember hearing lots of witnesses talk about "demon attacks".

whether it was someone studying the bible who then started having strange things happen in their house to people bringing stuff home from yard sales and getting personal attacks and horrible dreams resulting in them dystroying stuff they brought home or getting rid of it.. .

i also remember hearing a sister say she had to pray in a home with a study because the study started to get attacked.

Paris

jgnat - this video made by children who hear voices may be helpful ?

http://www.voicecollective.co.uk/voices/voices_who.html