Posts by Paris

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What would you do if JW's lifted the shunning policy?

by bsand20 in

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have you guys asked yourself that question?

what if the gb decided that "new light" revealed to them that disfellowshipping was wrong and they would do away with it for current dfd members as well...... .......16 years of my life.

would i welcome my family back?

Paris

Its hard. When injustices are done to you and you suffer, people tell you to "move on". Some are able to compartmentalize their emotions and brains.

Often those that did these things, do not apologize. Even if they later change their behavior. The WT is famous for never apologizing. 16 years is a whole childhood for children you may have been separated from. Its hard. Its cruel. No doubt. Many will advise forgiveness, to forgive and forget. Even parents of murdered children have "forgiven" the murderer and I think this kind of forgiveness is to stop the pain. We all want things labelled "closure" and reconciliation or even a chance to relive our own lives, its the ongoing theme of literature and movies and art. Something inside that wants completion, justice, resolution, and end to sadness and separation.

Daydreaming can occupy useful time, may be you can write letters to your lost loved ones and at least tell them how you have been affected. It could be someone in your family might respond, you never know. Hardness sits like a dark lump and resentment often spills out on others in mean little ways, being clear and unburdened is freeing, letting go in a positive way, without grudges, if that is possible.

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The Reason Why JWs Won't Leave The Cult Is Because They Won't Think!

by minimus in

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they simply refuse to think, to reason, to ponder.

they are lazy!.

even if they might feel that something isn't right, they won't research an issue or a question.

Paris

I am disallusioned about the human race in general.. Delusion seems pretty wide spread ... Example, lots of middle aged women and men, with NO education or qualification have decided to become "Healers". They freely dispense Herbal,"holistic" "natural" "Cures" and medical advice and claim they are "spiritual" and have all manner of "healing circles", meditation groups and conduct their own personal versions of Yoga, in classes that injure people becaues the teacher hasn't a clue as to what they is doing. They become "nutritional supplement advisors", in Heath Stores. Instead of looking at failed opportunities and wasted lives, these people find hope and place, in delusion.

Religions with lots of rules and doctrines, are all delusional and convinced of their own "rightness". A special delusion is found in close knit groups. Remaining in the "Trance" of being a self assured Jehovah's Witness is far easier than facing reality and trying to find a new way to live and connect in this world. Social connections are built up over years and some feel "safe" and at home, and are shallow thinkers to begin with. Its only those who are honest and actually analyze and think deeply about things who suffer the pain of realizing what a huge mistake they made, how deceptive the GB is, or what a Cult the WT really is. In spite of knowing its a phony delusion, the effort of leaving is just too much for many.

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Ferguson Shooting (Is my thinking on this all wrong.......)

by out4good3 in

i think everyone here can agree that walking down the street, even in the middle of the street, is not cause for having a clip emptied in your ass......... i can understand how the black community would be outraged by the injustice of seeing another black man dead in the street at the hands of the police under mysterious circumstances....... i hope that i'm not succumbing to the attempts to assinate the already well impuned character of the dead man...... however.

i can't help but think that this could all have been avoided by exercising the proper discretion with fore-knowledge of the disadvantages people of color have when they are dealing with law enforcement in the united states.

it is not as if this disadvantage has only since recently came to light.

Paris

Please understand me, I do not sanction killing someone for stealing anything.

I realize there is racism and its an American legacy from slavery and it infects many countries. This particular cop ended up in the hospital. He shot this large strong man, possibly in self defense. He should have diabled him, downed him without killing him. But I do not see any video of what happened and there must be a police-car camera that recorded it, I hope. No witnesses ? Tazered him ? Something other than killing him, and was the cop alone ? And why would the cop be alone? If this man had a rap sheet of violence ? Many missing pieces to this.

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Ferguson Shooting (Is my thinking on this all wrong.......)

by out4good3 in

i think everyone here can agree that walking down the street, even in the middle of the street, is not cause for having a clip emptied in your ass......... i can understand how the black community would be outraged by the injustice of seeing another black man dead in the street at the hands of the police under mysterious circumstances....... i hope that i'm not succumbing to the attempts to assinate the already well impuned character of the dead man...... however.

i can't help but think that this could all have been avoided by exercising the proper discretion with fore-knowledge of the disadvantages people of color have when they are dealing with law enforcement in the united states.

it is not as if this disadvantage has only since recently came to light.

Paris

Video shows Michael Brown, 6ft 4inches, 350 pounds, walking into a convenience store, in front of other people, grabbing boxes of smokes and bullying his way out of the store and the small little store owner goes after him and Michael, towering above him, shoves the store owner hard and knocks him against some display. Michael then turns and physically threatens the little man and intimidates him with his sheer size. This is not some innocent little boy who is wandering down the street minding his own business, Michael is a bully and a brazen thief who uses his huge size to get what he wants. Later he also injured a cop, putting him in the hospital, who then shot him during the struggle. Lots of black people in that store, nobody having any trouble except Michael.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhA36PDkC8c

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Love believes all things... Comment by a "Duke and Star"!! Today's WT!!

by DATA-DOG in

love believes all things.

what did paul mean??

he meant that if we love jehovah, we believe what we read in the wt magazine.

Paris

Pistoff - Thanks for putting that in context - it is really a glaring example of a special kind of evil in the magazines and in the minds of individual witnesses like the above quoted "Duke the Star" I had a hard time figuring out if the original post was from the WT or what part was a "comment" made by someone referred to as Duke the Star. I have not attended a meeting in so many years this forum is my only way to follow what strange things are going on in the WT now.

A truly creepy comment and so blatantly Cultish. Saying what he said out loud, had to make some people squirm at their own position in supporting this organization and if anyone actually reads the Bible, there is no way this chapter supports anything remotely like a governing body or obedience to magazines or men.

Blondie- I did not mean to offend you, sorry, I could not tell what your position on the things you were quoting or reporting was. It reads like you are neutral or in favor of, its hard to tell just on its face. Again I did not mean it as a personal attack, sorry.

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I LOST IT ... my JW rant today

by talesin in

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well, i just couldn't hold it in anymore.. today, i exploded, talking to my mother about the family inheritance and how i am being screwed.. i told her i had been so angry lately, and just had to tell her what i was thinking, because the anger was slipping out at times, and i was making snide anti-jw comments .... which is not my way.

i'm usually quite direct.. i told her that i couldn't take being treated like a piece of dog you-know-what on the bottom of someone's shoe any longer.. that in the past couple of years, i had learned so much filth about the jws that i was getting more and more disgusted day by day.. i started shouting ... there is nothing wrong with me!!!

why do i have to be shunned when they hide child molesters???.

Paris

I think you were very honest and you deserve validation and respect. You spoke the truth and did not blame your mother, which is amazing, You have every reason to blame her personally but you put the blame on the WT and not her. Few people would have that restraint and kindness. You have a right to speak the truth and tell her the facts and do not allow her to shame you. You have nothing to be ashamed of. The WT is a shaming religion. You are doing more good than any harm you might imagine. After all doesn't she claim to "have the Truth"? So bring on the TRUTH.

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Love believes all things... Comment by a "Duke and Star"!! Today's WT!!

by DATA-DOG in

love believes all things.

what did paul mean??

he meant that if we love jehovah, we believe what we read in the wt magazine.

Paris

If this was true in the 1st century when all were anointed- Blondie

I have news, its the same as it was in the first Century Blondie. Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one hope, one baptism . Anointed means you have the Holy Spirit poured out on you and dwelling in you, it does not mean the Watchtower false doctrine of "anointed" and yet many on this forum although continually claiming they are free from the WT still believe these false doctrines. Why? There are not two classes, there is no "organization" with a "sole channel" Its a lie Blondie. There are no "classes". Jesus never talked about any such thing. The "other sheep not of this fold" referred to the Gentiles and they become one flock with the Jews.

Domestics ? These are WT terms. Anointed and Domestics. These are false doctrines made up by the WT. The term comes from a parable where there are 3 servants who are given bags of gold or "talents" and two of them use what they are given wisely and one burys his in the ground. The parable is not about who rules over who, its about what you do with what you have been given and its about stewardship and responsibility towards the household of God or the Body of Christ , which is everyone who believes, not some limited number referred to as "the anointed" We are ALL anointed, all believers are anointed with the same amount of holy spirit and there are no "classes". Why keep referring to these stale old WT falshoods? As if they exist, they do not.

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Do you think that the Jehovahs Witness religion would be better /worse if their were an equal number of male/female on the G.B.?

by smiddy in

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of course this is a hypothetical question , it will never happen .?

but what if it did , what do you think the society would be like if it did happen .?.

let your imaginations run wild .

Paris

dis-member - No, its not "a joke" 10% brain size, head size, cranial capacity is actually true and scientifically proven. This is by measurements over a large population. But brain density and white matter versus gray matter usage and individual IQ is a better indicator of thinking ability and women's overall capability. Women and men do differ. Women have Harvard Business School has studied women's management skills versus men's:

Briefly Harvard Business School found:

Women; "

“transformational” leadership—getting subordinates to transform their own self-interest into the interest of the group through concern for a broader goal. Moreover, they ascribe their power to personal characteristics like charisma, interpersonal skills, hard work, or personal contacts rather than to organizational stature."

Men:

“transactional” leadership. That is, they view job performance as a series of transactions with subordinates—exchanging rewards for services rendered or punishment for inadequate performance. The men are also more likely to use power that comes from their organizational position and formal authority.

"More specifically, the women encourage participation, share power and information, enhance other people’s self-worth, and get others excited about their work. All these things reflect their belief that allowing employees to contribute and to feel powerful and important is a win-win situation—good for the employees and the organization. " http://hbr.org/1990/11/ways-women-lead/ar/

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Do you think that the Jehovahs Witness religion would be better /worse if their were an equal number of male/female on the G.B.?

by smiddy in

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of course this is a hypothetical question , it will never happen .?

but what if it did , what do you think the society would be like if it did happen .?.

let your imaginations run wild .

Paris

Smiddy - Lets settle this half-truth of women's brains versus men's brains shall we ?

First of all millions of IQ tests given have shown women to be every bit as smart as men. A woman with an IQ of 150 is a genius, and a man with an IQ of 85 is an idiot, no matter what size his weaker brain is.

Second women's brains are denser than mens with less unused space filled with liquid, which means men have more gaps in their brains, again overall size does not help men when portions are virtually empty.

Third Women have more white matter in their brains, speed of data processing occurs is white matter, not gray matter, men have 6.5 times of the slower gray matter.

Women have about 10 times more white matter than men do [source: Carey]. This difference may account for differences in how men and women think. Men seem to think with their gray matter, which is full of active neurons. Women think with the white matter, which consists more of connections between the neurons. In this way, a woman's brain is a bit more complicated in setup, but those connections may allow a woman's brain to work faster than a man's [source: Hotz].

Some women even have as many as 12 percent more neurons than men do [source: Hotz]. In studying women's brains, psychologist Sandra Witelson found that those neurons were most densely crowded on certain layers of the cortex, namely the ones responsible for signals coming in and out of the brain. This, Witelson believed, may be one reason why women tend to score higher on tests that involve language and communication, and she came to believe that these differences were present from birth

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GB member visits Bolton--UK

by bigmac in

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ive pasted the following from a uk xjw facebook page.:.

i found out last night that thursday,just gone, a member of the gb came to rosehill congregation in bolton to tell them the gb will now be more active and a more prominent part of their lives, this is to build trust and make it so when they revel new direction in the future, people don't push against them and they follow them.

it's a long shot shot but what are the chances he will be at any other meeting in this district this sunday and how can i find out?.

Paris

I think this more "cozy" personal look at the GB will end up like every public figure who is over exposed to the public.

It will backfire, big time. When they remained in the shadows people imagined them to be some saint-like "wise men".

When you see their faces, and hear them speak they come across as; out of touch, simple minded, reading from a script, legalistic, fear mongering, hateful, self important.

They will reveal themselves to be exactly who they are, which is self righteous, undereducated, sexist, narrow minded, without compassion, or redeeming qualities. And full of themselves. Controlling. Fond of their own opinions and now the spotlight will show up their weak minds and lack of any real message of substance and lack of spirituality. They offer no comfort, no hope, no real Christian purpose for themsleves or others. They are unmerciful and dishonest.

Its their very plainness and mechanical same old droning on and on and beating people up verbally that hopefully wake more people up to the fact they are not "special" and they do not have any special knowledge or insight and there is no "important work" being done by the Watchtower Society. Its all vanity.

The more they praise themselves and demand obedience the more cultish they appear.

So I say , bring it on, march these seven fools out and show them off and let them speak, because as the Bible says, "out of the heart, the mouth speaks."