wow, thats right, after having the SON OF GOD, as a virgin untouched by a man, mary was considered unclean. go figure
sowhatnow
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IT'S THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR!!!
by DATA-DOG injust getting a jump on the holiday season!!
i figure that i will post this every year for discussion.
these were my observations when learning ttatt.
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The Faithful Slave - An Obvious Question I Haven't Heard Asked
by berrygerry insince the big 7 have appropriated this "blessed" title for themselves, and disavowed the existence of this slave prior to 1919, an obvious question comes up.. was it not the apostate maria russell that proffered that ctr was "the slave," and was the coiner of the term "the faithful slave"?.
if the slave did not come into existence until 1919, then how was it possible that prior to 1919 that anyone knew that it existed, or would have been able to foretell that it would come into existence?.
was maria a prophetic apostate?.
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sowhatnow
here is something i read recently that made my brain light up... this is just part of a longer article....
The Watchtower claims the Slave has been given all authority.
"The facts of modern history show that in the year 1919 [Jesus] revived these much afflicted disciples and gathered them together in a united body. Then he appointed them as his “slave” class “over all his belongings,” that is, over all his royal interests at the earth." Watchtower 1971 Dec 15 p.750
This is not what was intended by the Scriptures. The Bible states that the appointment over all the belongings is made after the master arrives.
Matthew 24:46,47 "Happy is that slave if his master on arriving (erchomai) finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings."
The master has not yet arrived, as the memorial is to cease on his arrival, and so the Slave has not been appointed over all the belongings.
1 Corinthians 11:26 "For as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives (erchomai)."
The leaders have prematurely seized control for themselves, and consolidated that control. The 2012 version of the doctrine leaves Christians uncared for between 33 CE and 1919 CE, and elevates the exclusivity and importance of Governing Body. This is in contrast to the parable, which indicates that at this time the elders are to be shepherds of the congregation.
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so, yes they still do memorial, so that means according to a lot of people he hasnt come yet. no appointment.
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What Was Your Body of Elders Like?
by minimus inwere they pretty much a good group of men?
we're they jerks?.
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sowhatnow
I have no idea, never knew who most of them were.
most of the congregations i attended were fairly unfreindly, buisness like and clickish. no elders introducing themselves and offering assistance.
it was a mystery to me who was a mini servant. the elders that i once had to deal with during a family issue, were against women, bamed me for
my husbands alchohol abuse, basically told me im exagerating and 'blaming him' for everything.
[well, they all brewed the beer in thier homes so I was outnumbered by alchoholics, [all three of them eventually ended up having thier own issues and stepped down].
which i dont recall what that meant that i was 'blaming' because the reason for our 'problems' was thier and my husbands, lack of involvment in our family which needed spiritual support.
one only maybe could get my vote for 'good' elder. maybe.
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What's next, Food Banks?
by Quarterback injust thinking, and speculating here.
who would have even immagined a tv channel as a change.
what could top that?.
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sowhatnow
years a go i recall an article they printed that encouraged jws to use ours and the worlds, possesions, or riches, to further the good news.
i cant remeber the wording but i thought how contradictorey the article was first telling us we should not be dependant of satans system while on the other hand encouraging people to get what they can from the govt so they can be free to preach...
sort of like how mormons do, they have multiple children then go on food stamps. [how many kids and wives can you support for with your job??]
about ten people in my moms congregation go to the local food bank, which is OUT OF A CHURCH BASEMENT!! yea you got that right.
they go to 'chistendom' for a hand out.
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Reinstatement - repentance - works - Can you explain how this is supposed to work?
by berrygerry innov 15, 2006 wt.
when requesting reinstatement, he should be able to give evidence that he has repented and is producing works that befit repentance.acts 26:20.. .
how possibly can someone "give evidence" or "produce works"?.
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sowhatnow
attending meetings, and not missing is about all you can do when your df, so i know what you mean.
id certainly like to know how someone regularly attending meetings and just sitting there not talking or associating is showing repentance, they did it anyway.
the elder evaluations that a df person goes through is rediculose, they aske questions as if you have any answers different than the last time they may have met with you. you just tell them what they want to hear, or what they are told to look for.
crying? I dont know.
it really makes no sense at all especially if you read the whole 26th chapter, from a real bible.
acts 26 was i believe talking about those who were unrepentant jews who were to return to god, and perfoming deeds in KEEPING WITH thier repentance
[english standard version] i dont think it is for us to apply. its was talking about the ones who were straying again from God. the chosen nation of israel.
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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation
by ToesUp ina close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.
visit.
this occurred 3 months ago.
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sowhatnow
well, if the local elders or C.o would simpy state openly to the congregation whats going on there wouldnt be any gossip huh? After all the congregation belongs to everybody, why dont they all have a right to know??
whats the bible say ? take the matter to the CONGREGATION, and let everyone hear it out. no more guessing and judging wrongly.
no more secrets....
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sowhatnow
ill tell ya, i can use some of that right now, im hurting after over working today.
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so, what ARE society 'approved' jobs anyway?
by sowhatnow inobviously they feel a window washer job is a job anyone can do anywhere in he world .
and makes great money, yea right.. so what are all those 'approved jobs?'.
add to the list of any and all building skills, cleaning type jobs.
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sowhatnow
many years ago the cong i was attending had two elders that worked shift work and one mini servant, the CO came and told them to find new jobs or looe their privlages.
well they all were so close to retiement had great benefits, had mortgages and did not want to risk loosing the years required to get other union type benefits, they wisely stayed put.
they all chose to loose the privlages. but im not sure they did, there was no one to take thier places.
these men made decent money, and couldnt find closer jobs at their age that would be daylight. theres few good jobs up in that area.
in fact what lucky ducks get a day shift job anymore? what dfference does it make if you work shifts these days? so many halls have more than one cong so theres always a way.
If they would have all quit their jobs, that congregation would have been closed, they were the ones who made the most money and basically kept the place running.
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sowhatnow
that about says it, and so, then, if we do the things, theres still hope, lol!
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No, I'm not mad at you (JWs)
by skeeter1 ini got a call today from jw relative, wondering why i haven't answered correspondance.. no, i haven't called or written some jws in my life for a while.
i have chosen to not respond, or not quickly respond, to their inquiries.
yes, i've even blocked some from my social media and e-mail accounts.
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sowhatnow
my mother has this weird belief that satan blesses his own.
ponder that...
she cant comprehend how 'worldly people' can be happy, she thinks behind the fake happyness and 'fake lives' they are longing for 'true' happyness and the 'truth' will seth them free.
its a very bent view of the world they have.
she had once got into preachy mode with my daughter, and my daughter said to her 'granma, im happy why do you think im not happy?'
my mom replied 'because your having all these health and financial problems'
my daughter just sat there with a blank expression on her face trying to think of how to come back on that one, because we have NEVER not known a jw who isnt struggling major time with health and financial problems! who doesnt have those problems at one time or another?
in fact almost ALL the ones my mom including my mom have such a low income they barely get to go anyplace or do anything and are on food stamps. they all live paycheck to paycheck and half if not more of the ones my mother knows eat anti depressants for breakfast.
now if satan 'blesses his own', why then are jws not getting all the blessing from God? shouldnt they all be blessed with good jobs and cars and good health? and wonderful freinds?
they are simpy jealouse and cant get over the fact that everyone cant think like them. its disturbing, because we all thought it .
I think our minds certainly DO need made over.