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  One hope for ALL christians - interesting video on heavenly hope

  by paradisebeauty in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7qe6fqac4.

  a short video with proof from the bible that the ones going to "heaven" are not meant to stay there forever, but just to meet jesus there (at the rapture) and be with him forever, on earth, not in heaven!.

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  my take on all that is this,

  simply be good to everyone so when you die you'll then find out what happens.
  
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  what an interesting find for me

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  im sure to use this the next time i accidentally get sucked into an argument with someone.

  im not ever understanding the idea behind any christian religion picking and choosing what they want to believe and follow, then have the nerve to claim they are right, when clearly this is obviously done.

  here is a site that shows not only how bloodthirsty and evil the god of the hebrew bible was, but how more ridiculous it is for jws to follow one twisted 'commandment' about eating blood, not only reading it wrong, but then not to do all the other commandments, willingly , do they think they are ancient israelites ?

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  im sure to use this the next time I accidentally get sucked into an argument with someone.
  

  im not ever understanding the idea behind any christian religion picking and choosing what they want to believe and follow, then have the nerve to claim they are right, when clearly this is obviously done.
  

  here is a site that shows not only how bloodthirsty and evil the god of the Hebrew bible was, but how more ridiculous it is for jws to follow one twisted 'commandment' about eating blood, not only reading it wrong, but then not to do all the other commandments, willingly , do they think they are ancient Israelites ? lol
  

  https://www.scribd.com/doc/95804194/A-Most-Evil-and-Stupid-Book-The-Bible-s-Moral-Depravity-Contradictions-and-Absurdities#download

  this sites article made it so easy for me.
  

  after reading this, one can never again question whether the bible was a book by man or god, lol.

  surely not a god i want to believe in
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  Why must sisters wear skirts?

  by purrpurr in

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  and or dresses?

  just what is wrong with a smart pair of trousers?

  i'm sure that the women would not start behaving like men or imagining that they have a dick!.

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  because a man made the rule, no other reason.
  
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  Need to Vent: Well this weekend is a wash, 3 days of my life i will not get back and wife is slipping in to cult mode

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  2. experiences

  yep, the cult fest is upon us....3 days of my life i will not get back....ughhhhhhhh.

  and my wife has been slipping in to cult mode the last 2 days.....you know the look.

  almost like a glazed over look with a side of guilt and a side of narrow mindedness.

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  my advice,

  eat lots of prunes and coffee, develop diarrhea and stay home sick.

  take a non jw bible to look up the scriptures and use a yellow highlighter to highlight all the words that are different in their bible.

  have a tablet with the words, governing body, society, faithful slave, Armageddon , the end, wicked, Satan, apostate, warning , jehovah , and jesus, and keep score when each is said.

  I bet Jesus looses.

  also write down every negative word uttered.
  
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  so how disobedient are you?

  by sowhatnow in

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  things religious organizations practice that are non biblical [ or what were told not to do] pray in public [jesus said go into your room and pray in secret.

  jesus always went away to pray]build houses of worship store up treasures on earthjudge their fellow man and condemn their fellow man.

  preach doctrines of menclaim to be gods special property and for some faiths, do not pray the prayer jesus said to pray.

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  things religious organizations practice that are non Biblical [ or what were told not to do]
  pray in public [jesus said go into your room and pray in secret. jesus always went away to pray]
  build houses of worship
  store up treasures on earth
  judge their fellow man and condemn their fellow man.
  preach doctrines of men
  claim to be Gods special property
  and for some faiths, do not pray the prayer jesus said to pray. [when you pray pray this way]
  [ got any more?]
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  Is it necessary to prepare for the Watchtower or book study?

  by BashfulAshG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all of my years in the truth, i never understood why we had to study before each meeting.

  the contents are self-explanatory with the answers to the printed question within the first or the last sentence of the paragraph.

  then, commenting never made sense, especially comments and experiences that don't answer the printed question.

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  No. in fact no one need any other book that a bible if they wish to only to read about the history of the early days of Christianity.
  

  here is why i think that.
  

  I wondered where in the bible it is told to us that we need to read doctrine and 'study or even read ' the bible.

  what i found is interesting to me because according to what i understand it is not a rule, or law, or requirement for salvation . [nor apparently is prayer any sort of command]
  

  my bible gateway research is below. i looked up he word 'read' and at all times it is only referring to the law code [oddly in several scriptures this is called the book or law of moses as if God had nothing to do with it]
  

  of which I thought was not applicable to people today if the y accept Christ as their savior.
  

  the old 'read it in an undertone day and nigh' t,bla bla mentioned once only applying to the law. and the word study is spoken of rarely in scripture
  

  here is all i found.

  8:18
  Day after day, from the first day to the last, Ezra read from the Book of the Law of God
  
  [ Nehemiah’s Final Reforms ] On that day the Book of Moses was read aloud in the hearing of the people and there it was found written that no Ammonite or Moabite should ever be admitted into the assembly of God,
  
  acts 13 7The people of Jerusalem and their rulers did not recognize Jesus, yet in condemning him they fulfilled the words of the prophets that are read every Sabbath.
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  For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”
  
  2 cor3 14 when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
  In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations [hmmm old covenant is not removed?]
  2 Corinthians 3:15
  Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.[moses is read]
  
  
  and the word 'study' again applying to the law of the lord.
  
  Ezra 7:10
  For Ezra had devoted himself to the study and observance of the Law of the Lord, and to teaching its decrees and laws in Israel.
  In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  Ecclesiastes 1:13
  I applied my mind to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under the heavens. What a heavy burden God has laid on mankind!
  In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  Ecclesiastes 12:12
  Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them. Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.
  In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  
  
  John 5:38-40New International Version (NIV)
  38 nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. 39 You study[a] the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
  
  if you notice here in john, it is explained that thinking that study is going to save you for eternal life, isnt going to work..

  comments?
  
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  these books, want any? if not they go in the trash

  by sowhatnow in

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  worldwide security under the prince of peacegods eternal purpose now triumphinglife does have a purpose babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rulesyou can live forever on a paradise earththe secret to family happinessdid man get here by evolution of creationlet your kingdom comechoosing the best way of lifecommentary on the letter of jamesi have one of each.. the bible gods word or mansis the bible really the word of godsurvival into a new earthknowledge that leads to everlasting lifereasoningunited in worshipholy spirit the force behind the coming new orderthe two babylon'sparadise lost originalyou can live forever on a paradise earth first large print edition 1982 revelation book 1988 large print.

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  dont know how to edit my post. i have pulled those books out of my pile and put those names on them

  so read the posts.
  
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  Annointed 144k only male?

  by JerryTX in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told there was new light by a former jw.

  i wanted to verify if it was true.

  the new light claims the annointed class/144k is always male.

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  I was always understanding that the scriptures clearly say[rev ch 7] the 144,000 are virgin males [in fact are[rev 14] ] and chosen, from the 12 tribes and already sealed. past tense.
  

  how one can take a type or anti type approach [those two still confuse me] to a simple statement in the bible I have no idea. where is any indication that we are to assume that one part of a single scripture is to be literal and the other symbolic? and symbolic of what?

  oh, its a literal[ number, even though it was not seen but only heard,] and yet its not literal that they were only males?
  

  How anyone can assume they are chosen to be 'anointed' over the next person sitting next to them, is beyond my comprehension. where is the humility? you can be as pure as the snow all your life as a jw and not be 'chosen' yet some person comes in from 'the world', and claims they were given such a privilege? hmm.
  

  according to the wt logic, women then can apparently be made heavenly creatures, and judges, but NOT qualified to teach in 'this' world? lol
  

  Blondie you said:

  'It may be new light but not with the jws. Anointed are male and female just as Christians were in the first century. Remember the holy spirit at Pentecost fell on all there, male and female.'

  well read those chapters again
  

  there are three completely separate events, that the watchtower has blended together for their own doctrinal teaching.

  there were only the 12 apostles in the upper chamber that received the holy spirit, Jesus told them that back in ch 1.

  I have never in my whole 45 years as a jw understood these events happening as the watchtower says it did. its simply not there.

  [at no point in that society would it be acceptable for women to be lodging with men in some upper room, or drinking at that time of the morning. also the scripture says
  

  the approximately] 120, were for the purpose of choosing a replacement for Judas.

  it starts out by saying 'in those days' so this is simply an account, and is not the same time period at all.
  

  [15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sisters,[d] the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus. 17 He was one of our number and shared in our ministry.”]

  in chapter one, Jesus here is eating and tells his apostles to stay in Jerusalem
  

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  4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5 For John baptized with[a] water, but in a few days you will be baptized with[b] the Holy Spirit.”

  he was only speaking to those with him.

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  6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

  7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

  the only ones claimed to be witnesses of Jesus were those present.

  [no mention of witnesses of jehovah there]

  they asked if the kingdom was going to be restored to Israel.
  

  this is the whole story of the bible. Israel and its kingdom . there is nothing there for we gentile nations. lol
  

  
  

  in that society women were never given such a privilege, let alone be given a position such as that of an anointed judge.

  what so many fail to realize is that when Jesus was eating and drinking with them after he had risen, it seems perfectly logical to me, that he had completed and brought to end his statement to them about 'do this as often as you do this, until I arrive...
  

  well he arrived there in ch 1 of acts ate and drank with them for the 40 days. no more ''memorial for THEM to think about. it said as often as you drink of the cup, not meaning once a year.

  
  [3 After his suffering, he presented himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: ] surely he was also drinking with them.
  

  I don't see why any ''memorial was done after that. the other celebrations were not the same thing.

  he always gave instructions to his 12. never to any other groups in my understanding of scriptures.

  its funny, jesus never spoke of the 144,000 did he?
  
  
  
  
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  An experience of just how screwed over Wt has got them.

  by joe134cd in

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  although i find this unsurprising, i think it worth mentioning as it demonstrates a point.

  i know a brother in chile, and i wanted confirmation on the flag flying outside the kh in that country.

  he said he was unaware of it.

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  and there is is.

  the fear of being lied to, so they deny it is a reality, they simply cant handle the truth
  
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  these books, want any? if not they go in the trash

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  worldwide security under the prince of peacegods eternal purpose now triumphinglife does have a purpose babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rulesyou can live forever on a paradise earththe secret to family happinessdid man get here by evolution of creationlet your kingdom comechoosing the best way of lifecommentary on the letter of jamesi have one of each.. the bible gods word or mansis the bible really the word of godsurvival into a new earthknowledge that leads to everlasting lifereasoningunited in worshipholy spirit the force behind the coming new orderthe two babylon'sparadise lost originalyou can live forever on a paradise earth first large print edition 1982 revelation book 1988 large print.

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  worldwide security under the prince of peace
  Gods eternal purpose now triumphing
  life does have a purpose
  babylon the great has fallen Gods kingdom rules
  you can
  live forever on a paradise earth
  the secret to family happiness
  did man get here by evolution of creation
  let your kingdom come
  choosing the best way of life
  commentary on the letter of james
  i have one of each.

  the bible gods word or mans
  is the bible really the word of god
  survival into a new earth
  knowledge that leads to everlasting life
  reasoning
  united in worship
  holy spirit the force behind the coming new order
  the two Babylon's
  paradise lost original
  you can live forever on a paradise earth first large print edition 1982
  revelation book 1988 large print