yep, apparently, there really were fire breathing creatures at one time, might be in cave drawings too. i believe it.
lots of interesting things we dont see at first, until we sit and without blinders on and really read the book.
a brother went on stage and read .
job 41:1-26. jehovah is straight up talking to job about a fire-breathing dragon in this passage.
it was surreal to hear this read without as much as a raised eyebrow in the audience.. here it is: (mind you this is almighty god talking one-on-one with job).
yep, apparently, there really were fire breathing creatures at one time, might be in cave drawings too. i believe it.
lots of interesting things we dont see at first, until we sit and without blinders on and really read the book.
on the way, at a place where they spent the night, the lord met him and tried to kill him.
but zipporah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin, and touched moses' feet with it, and said, "truly you are a bridegroom of blood to me!
it was then she said, "a bridegroom of blood by circumcision.
i've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.
particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.
not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.
good gravy sparky, your mom [right?] was a child abuser, lol.
I remember so many people who were pretty abusive to their kids.
for me, oh yes. my mom. [almost never my father. but he wasn't a jw. I cant remember my dad ever hitting me].
shed smack us with a bare hand, often wooden spoon, home made wood paddle. slap in the face, cant recall how young i was, but before going to the jw meetings we went to a Lutheran church, one hour services, and all us little ones were in the basement for sunday school. i was only a toddler then, but at age 5 is when she started gong to khall. and along with that, the beatings.lol because Id talk..... ask questions, whatever.
to go to go to k hall, and have to sit with adults and have with nothing to look at for two freaking hours, or more depending on if the meeting went OVERTIME was torture.
remember overtime? when they wouldn't get the watchtower paragraphs done on time? oh they would keep going till it was finished. half hour over sometimes. then long prayers. oh the long prayers. well it seemed long to a kid, lol
then comes along, when i was 8, my little brother was always getting the spoon, he was a challenge for my mom, in HER eyes. because then, we did not have any tablets or pencils to draw during the meeting. she expected a 3 yr old who just ate coco puffs before the Sunday meeting, to sit for two hours. usually hed fall asleep and snore,lol. hed be on the floor squirming he could not sit still. i felt bad for him, she was always dragging him in the basement bathroom and beating him, shed pull his pants down and give him the wooden spoon.and yes he had bruises, she never ever will admit it was child abuse.
these days, the young kids I can recall being at meetings, were in one of two groups, those whose parents were easy going, they'd bring a book bag with crayons coloring books, a blankie, cheerios in a Tupperware container. its like some event going on in the back row.lol.
babies looking all over the place and moms standing in the back with them.
or those whose parents drag them back every meeting to paddle, and tell them they are 'being watched' by jehoohoo, disappointing him, he doesn't like it when you misbehave, bla bla bla. poor kids.
urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.
oh yea, sickening isnt it. i went on 'the' site looking for a particular article someone on here referred to, and stumbled on that magazine issue, i was like, wow wow, omg .
its non human, how many have you observed being visually disturbed, or walking out?
would Jesus sit there and listen to that? [lol well yes he might]
they basically added yet another level of stress, for everyone, now not only do you have to watch your step, you have to watch everyone elses THATS being a busy body.
anyone else feel like they were just woke up from a long coma?
or emerged from a time capsule?.
i mean seriously, its rather creepy and disturbing , some of us are at sea without a compass .. like an orphan, like someone said, , heres a birth certificate go find yourself.
Anyone else feel like they were just woke up from a long coma? or emerged from a time capsule?
I mean seriously, its rather creepy and disturbing , some of us are at sea without a compass .
like an orphan, like someone said, , heres a birth certificate go find yourself.
My brain tells me Im still in 1980’s era. Im 20 again.
in the 80's my daughter was in grade school, and that's when my [not jw turned jw] husband and i got baptized and really started to slave. [ he gave up after 8 years, I just gave up four years ago,] then my son born in 88, so the 90s kept me busy.
so, music, shows, that I never heard, reading news stories about events and political issues that happened.
so Im like, omg where was I when THAT happened? lol
I feel so lost,lol,
[where is my husband now when i needed him most, out of he picture. damn him.]
I don't know what to do with it ,lol
how are we all faring?
are we learning anything?
how are we coping?
since i woke up one year ago , i've been doing a somewhat controlled fade , the experience i've had has been a very solitary one , i don't mean by not seeing anyone i know because i know hundreds in several congregations and i was an elder .
but just coming to terms with the fact that this was no longer the solution to life's problems, that i'd wasted so much time, that as i sat in the kh and heard everyone comment, my heart was no longer in it , i no longer fitted in ..... i felt that they were in the congregation all under the spell or some form of hypnosis from the wtbts,.
it was like for the first time in my experience at the kh , that i was the only one to see what was actually going on , the indoctrination, the guilt tripping, i could see it all as clear as day , and yet i had as it where a metal gag over my mouth, i couldn't speak to anyone about it for fear of them turning me into the spiritual police.
oh boy, do your watchtowers look like rainbows, lol, with highligting all over them and side margin notes with explanation points, lol. it got so i couldnt stay for the wt anymore.
im sure there are lots of us that sat in a khall basically being nothing more than a chair warmer.
it sucks i know. when i was going to meetings still, I wanted to just jump up and either scream or run out the door. many times i left after the talk, stopped going to the service meets way sooner. I have always had allergies, and lots of time or me was spent in the back. then id leave early. so allergies was my reason for leaving in thier opinion. [one person with perfume on too close to me, and id be a mess] it got to the point many many years ago, that to be in a car group was impossible, id do nothing but blow my nose, so my 'service went first', lol. i was once asked to do letter writting, i said sure, i did it for a couple times, and stopped. but they assumed I was doing that. no one was worried about me.
If may i ask, why are you still going? wife, family? is there a way you can claim to be going to another hall for a while ? where i live id go to two different congs, my moms and the one i went to , everyone knew that i used to go to my moms hall , so when was not at meeting they all assumed i was at my moms cong, especially sundays, since id go over my moms house for the day, after the meeting. no one knew if i went or not. if any one would say 'oh i havent seen you in a while, id say oh i was going to my moms, or i was going down to so -n- so's hall, or i was sick and 'listening in' on the phone, so i always had an excuse. they just werent concerned. and Im sure they viewed me as having ' personal and health' probems, 4 years earlier i went through a seperation and moved away for a time. barely anyone even noticed i left for 4 months! lol, hows that for 'sheparding'. right now im divorced and living alone, no girlfriend to talk to about the grief of my divorce or my sons up coming wedding or anything . no cousins or siblings to talk to that are my age. I sure cant talk to my adult kids about my personal issues. plus my son is in another state.
what sucks is I litterally have no one but this forum to vent to and thats not helping he way i need.and i never knew sites ike this were even around until just when i joined. so maybe your feeling that same frustration. as far as fading, gee,
you might want to develope allergies... or have Ibs, lol, visit that bathroom a lot, [ibs is stress related ] people will wonder what your problem is, lol. then leave early due to IBS, then start to stay home to 'listen in' or not... perhaps you can speed up your exit.
is it me or are you having a hard time commenting on what does this week's bible reading teach me about jehovah & what points from this week's bible study reading can i use in the field ministry ?
i'm having a hard time commenting because what does job show about jehovah....well, # 1 he allowed job's suffering, but he didn't let satan take his life.
# 2 what scripture could one use in the field ministry regarding the book of job...talking to a householder, see if you don't behave, god's gonna get you....or allow satan to get you.
why would anyone want to be reminded of such a horrible story at thier door? there is nothing joyful about ruminating jobs plight in life.
there is nothing positive from the book. [and apparently real fire breathing dragons lived then, lol]
to me all its telling us is that no matter how good we think we have it, at the drop of a hat, it can all be taken away, and there is nothing we can do about it. fire, floods, explosions, sudden death, loss of a job, disease, violence ect. we have no control.
and so this is how ancient man has attempted to explain why seemingly good people have horrible things happen to them.
blame a evil demon god.
Job was unaware of a devil. he thought it was god. he never knew why he went through that.
thing is , everything innocent suffered, animals and jobs children, to prove a point that god already knew, lol.
stupid .
250 million years ago a plume of molten basalt gushed up from the earth's core.
it erupted in an area now known as the siberian traps - back then it was part of the supercontinent pangaea.
a curtain of lava a mile high and hundreds of miles long lit up the sky.
i saw she went under the handle of lovejahforever.....she said she is very smart and had cleaning jobs and was going in the ministry this morning.. when she told me she looked forward to beating me (she won the first game) she sid she was smart because she's a jehovah's witness.
my response was we will see how smart she is.. what next?
any suggestions??