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  Did God establish His Covenant with the Gentile Nations or the Jews?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im not sure where to post this but i think its telling.

  not long but read it closely i get a bit confused on the latter half.

  the question is did god establish his covenant with the gentile nations or the jews.. [though i have read from a jewish web source, that the jews have nothing to do with israel and the greek scriptures or half the hebrew scriptures ].

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   well then, thanks  all,  for the 'easier understanding' of that  ,lol.

  now that i see that for me it makes no difference, ill simply apply the go to phrase

  love your neighbor as yourself.
  

  
  
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  Did God establish His Covenant with the Gentile Nations or the Jews?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im not sure where to post this but i think its telling.

  not long but read it closely i get a bit confused on the latter half.

  the question is did god establish his covenant with the gentile nations or the jews.. [though i have read from a jewish web source, that the jews have nothing to do with israel and the greek scriptures or half the hebrew scriptures ].

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   ok to the nitty gritty,

  so what were the things Jesus  said to 'observe'  and commanded him to do that he was to preach?  if Jesus was only  a messiah for Israel, 
  

  did Jesus not observe the law code?  was this what paul was to 'observe' as well, and then teach to the others, as then the gentiles who chose to follow the teachings of Christ are attached as 'branches'?

  the other sheep were to be brought IN to the fold correct?
  

  outside are the dogs....
  
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  JW TV is the reason for the hysteria in the KH

  by campaign of hate in

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  2. friends

  if you, like me, have noticed the sudden increase in hysteria in the khs right now, i put it down to that jw tv site.

  its's far more extensive than i thought it was, i thought it was just 1, 1 hour program a month.

  there's a s*** load of videos on that site.. and the real problem, from just watching a clip from each video, is that these guys are clearly "mentally unstable".

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  omg!  ttattelder, they turn the lights out? sounds like some sci fi  movie i saw in the 70's 
  
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  New JW video, song and dance

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
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  the current jws do not cease to amaze.

  here's their latest video on youtube and straight from bethel.. there is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwou6e5vwbo .

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  there went my breakfast, thanks a lot,lol
  
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  Watchtower choir

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think i've seen it all now.

  nothing surprises me.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpfzs7l_3sq.

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   HEY! what COLLEGE did they go to  to learn how to play so good???

   most religious music makes me wanna gag
  
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  Science still doesn't have the answers on how life first appeared

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since so many athiests in this thread, and since i'm going to college, i was curious if what i would learn in biology would change my thoughts and show that life clearly and easily spontaneously happened.

  just looking up the origins of dna or rna there is nothing conclusive.

  for example, scientists today are able to manipulate life.

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  we will not find the answers we will not live long enough someday someone will. but it should be enjoyable and open always for discussion and should never have any religious opposition, for many a 'faith' has been found to be untrue.

  those who do not follow religion prefer not to be labeled as atheists,I feel that word is sort of a prejudiced slur, maybe not all feel that way, but its viewed as a negative word, and those who do not believe in a God are not being negative, they just haven't been presented with enough evidence as science  and history has presented and have seen the damage religions have done t mankind. 

  maybe our creator Isnt a God, did you ever ponder that?
  
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  Did God establish His Covenant with the Gentile Nations or the Jews?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im not sure where to post this but i think its telling.

  not long but read it closely i get a bit confused on the latter half.

  the question is did god establish his covenant with the gentile nations or the jews.. [though i have read from a jewish web source, that the jews have nothing to do with israel and the greek scriptures or half the hebrew scriptures ].

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  im not sure where to post this  but i think its telling

  not  long but read it closely i get a bit confused  on the latter half

  the question is did God establish his covenant with the gentile nations or the  Jews.. [though i have read  from a jewish web source, that the jews have nothing to do with Israel and the greek scriptures or half the Hebrew scriptures ]
  

  http://articles.faithwriters.com/reprint-article-details.php?article=13349

  the way i understand it it that no one other than  Israel  has a covenant with God and it is still in effect basically

  it is the gentiles who choose to join Israel and their covenant who are then taken into consideration. not those who stay apart from that nation. also there is no symbolism apparently, its to be taken literal. other than the obvious literary symbolism.
  
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  1 Timothy 5:8 - Providing for one's household....materially or spiritually?

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the searcher brought this scripture up on another thread:.

  (1 timothy 5:8) "certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.

  " [disowned jehovah].

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  Ive always hear it applied  as spiritual, personally I apply it to the physical, 

  however how is it read in the new international bible, see below.
  

  1 Timothy 5:8

  8 Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

  and what is the context,  i read parallel of this at bible gateway, the whole  chapter speaks of widows elders and slaves.... 

  [having slaves, was Never spoken of against in the bible.   as is the obvious attitude of unworthiness for the rights  and feelings of women is this still observed today? apparently in many cultures]
  

  it also points out in vs
  19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.

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  the two and three witness rule is spoken of as only applying to the elders,[ so THATS why they can get away with child abuse.]
  

  king james version says at vs 11-12
  

  11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

  12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.. [gee was their 'first faith' their husbands law?'
  

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  women are damned if they wish to remarry. lol,   stupid ass men back then really ruined it  for themselves huh?
  

  [what the hell does wax wanton mean, lol!]  silly old book.

  Id say, clearly this is a book written for the chosen ones of Israel and did not apply to the gentile nations. 
  

  
  
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  JW's - lack of knowledge of their own beliefs

  by Illuminated in

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  why are so many jehovah's witnesses unaware of their own beliefs.

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  i would imagine the repetitive meetings, studies and door to door knocking would firmly root them in their beliefs.. yet, i've observed they either back out of challenging questions at times, or share a link to jay w org.. .

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  no one has time.

  the org likes to keep you so busy you dont even 'know' your own congregation.
  

  the magazines give you all the 'answers' no one cares if they make sense.
  

  see,.... wt quote
  

  But in Jehovah’s organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organization who are assigned to that very thing, to help you who do not have so much time for this, these preparing the good material in The Watchtower and other publications of the Society.”
  — Watchtower, The Watchtower, June 1, 1967, page 338

  when we finally do have time, and use a real bible,  we study ourselves right to the real   'truth'
  

  
  
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  WT for March 15, 2015: “Consider the context”

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my study on the watchtower magazine for march 15, 2015 is available at:.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/the_watchtower_and_the_contexts_of_jesus__stories.pdf.

  this watchtower presents jesus stories at matthew 25: the ten virgins; the talents; and the final judgment (sheep and goats).

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  i read that first study lesson. and the second,

  i got a headache, and a few chuckles. simple?  until they say in par 10, its puzzling. lol
  

  i believe according to allllll the context in every case,
  

  Jesus was applying everything to his 12 [11] apostles , period. after Jesus spoke to them in acts 1

  they disappeared from the scene accept for peter, once, i believe.
  

  why because they were separate  sect from what paul was starting.

  just my take.