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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  kairos

  In my mind, I expected her to be happy to see me and thrilled to hear that  I also am not attending. Boy, was I wrong.

  The replies here seem to indicate this mindset she has is likely normal. Really sad to see the darker side of mind control.
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  kairos

  Seeing these people is a real eye opener.

  We were all like them as well to varying degrees, but mind control was the active ingredient, yes.

  I could imagine seeing myself using the same old tired arguments and circular reasoning just 3-4 short years ago. That's the bigger revelation hear, past self examine.
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  kairos

  A couple other little details I left out from earlier:

  She asked if my wife and I were still together and if she was still a JW. ( This is crazy, but JW normal ). I told her that my wife and I are indeed still together and our relationship improved after I left. She  was having a hard time believing me. She expected that my still in wife, to her relief, didn't leave me.

  
  

  Also, I reassured her that she is still a human, I will not shun her.
  She looked offended, afraid or nervous. It was hard to tell.

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  Thanks for the reply comments. I'm interested in hearing more folks' experiences.

  
  

  
  
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  kairos

  Wow, what a surprise that was!

  I expected a warm welcome, as this was someone I have known for a very long time.

  Nope, Uber disfellowshipped JW. Totally caught me off guard. Reminded me she is disfellowshipped and expected me to leave her, shunned. I told her I didn't care about that and had come to see her. This person has been out for at least a year, maybe longer and still hasn't corrected  her "sinful course". I was told how she was looking forward to visiting with "the friends" again. She took full responsibility for the DFing.

  It was really eye opening. I told her I quit attending the meetings nearly two years ago. This made her sad. She was NOT interested in hearing any TTATT commentary. I zipped in a quick one about the UN NGO membership. She had never heard anything about it and would not open her mind to the possibility that this could in fact be true. Said she would have read about it ( referring to the WT, I expect ) and made comments that indicates she has no trust for the media.

  She is trying to get her life together and return to "the organization", as she put it. Attends all the meetings. Endures the shunning as necessary. Proper.

  I've never seen this first hand. A glimpse into the life of a DF'd person that accepts and cooperates with the Watchtower, intent on returning and getting "spiritually strong" again. The whole while, praising Jehovah.

  
  

  How could you be out and not research the JW's on the internet? It's not like they'll DF you again.
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  How would you respond?!?!?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an eldub recently said, " sure, we have changed many beliefs in the last 100 years, but christendom has had 2,000 years to clean up their act an they haven't done it.".

  this was prompted by today's wt session which mentioned nathan knorr's eager acceptance of rutherford's refinements concerning the 1,260 days.

  of course, he also said that he can't really keep up with everything.

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  Splash, thank you for the references.

  
  
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  But, no one has ever ACTUALLY "Witnessed Jehovah"!

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this just came to me, must have been mentioned before, right?.

  the name of the group is a lie!!.

  we all announced and taught that we were "jehovah's witnesses".. i'm struggling to find more words right now..

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  I would be thrilled if she would read those verses and think deeply and honestly. 

  That's out of the question right now.
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  But, no one has ever ACTUALLY "Witnessed Jehovah"!

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this just came to me, must have been mentioned before, right?.

  the name of the group is a lie!!.

  we all announced and taught that we were "jehovah's witnesses".. i'm struggling to find more words right now..

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  kairos

  No. I'm not confused.

  Been out for some time now. 

  I'll never return. NOT EVER.

  
  

  Coming to terms that we should have carried the sacred name:

  "Watchtower's Witnesses"

  
  

  At least we would have had just a shred of honesty as we walked up to the door.

  
  

  Just pondering as my wife is off at the hall on a foggy Sunday morning.
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  But, no one has ever ACTUALLY "Witnessed Jehovah"!

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this just came to me, must have been mentioned before, right?.

  the name of the group is a lie!!.

  we all announced and taught that we were "jehovah's witnesses".. i'm struggling to find more words right now..

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  kairos

  This just came to me, must have been mentioned before, right?

  
  

  The name of the group is A LIE!!

  
  

  We all announced and taught that we were "Jehovah's Witnesses".

  I'm struggling to find more words right now.
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  Escape from Paradise: a new book by Brock Talon

  by Brock Talon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  after a one year gestation period, as well as an extended labor, i am finally happy to announce the birth of my latest book: escape from paradise.. cigars all around!

  like any new parent, i need to get some much needed sleep now.

  zzzzzzzz.

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  I just ordered a copy!

  Can't wait to read it.
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  Hi! Long time lurker finally signing up!

  by LosingMyReligion in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, so the time has finally come to register an account on this site.

  not that i think i have much to contribute to the discussions here, but more out of a desire to show that yet another person has learned ttatt.

  i am a fader, not discussing ttatt with anyone as i know the inevitable outcome it would have.

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  kairos

  Welcome. This site has helped so many of us.

  We're on this trip together.