Posts by lurkernomore

i mean the one where alan goes to bethel and has a meeting with a senior person from the writing dept, and he can see no wrong in misrepresenting anothers words, if it makes a good quote.. alan's old on line url of geocities,com/osarif does not seem to be up any more .

i would like to use this in discussion with an ex elder of my acquaintance.. thank you..

lurkernomore

Marked very interesting links.

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NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

by clarity in

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# 3 newbie post.

first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

lurkernomore

In the short period since I started posting i've noticed loads of new posters (my wife being one). It seems from people we've spoken to as a couple there's a lot of JW's unhappy with the direction the Org is going, aswell as those who've had those wtf moment but not made any meaningful connections to the fact this is nothing more than a cult.

I welcome all newbies with a big smile

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Jehovanomics RULE #3: Money Laundering Through Kingdom Hall Build-Out and Maintenance.

by Jehovanomics in

it's big business laundering money through construction and improvements of a kingdom hall.

it's steady cash flow laundering money to maintain a kingdom hall.

donated labor from members is icing on the cake.

lurkernomore

Smiddy - Those were exactly the words that Russell used. I brought this issue up with my mother recently who's been trying her best to make us change our minds on leaving (to no avail ha). She told us about the donation slips that were handed out recently with regards to what they can contribute towards the building of the new Bethel in the UK. I pounced on that with Russells remarks about not soliciting funds, and she saw my point, but still felt it necessary to inform me she was going to make a one off contribution rather than a monthly one, like that was any different. Apart from the fact that they're going to be cashing in on prime property in London similarly to the massive windfall from NY sales, this is clearly contradicting what the Society has always taught on this subject.

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Warwick Building Project Fluff Stories

by bruh2012 in

talking about an article that makes you want to throw-up in your mouth- wt-study jan 15, 2015 the offered themselves willingly.. amazing the psych job of selling your business, moving your entire family, quiting your job to be a "temporary" worker at the new world headquarters!.

throw your livelyhood away only to get the "feeling" that jehovahs is blessing you!

i wish there was away to track the psych job during patterson and other major projects of what happened to all the "friends" that sold and got rid of their livelyhood then and where are they now.. did you ever sacrifce it all for a building project only to be left with nothing after your "spiritual high"?.

lurkernomore

Hey ocean there was an article in the Warwick observer that put the figure of bethel property sales nearer to the $990 million mark rather than $700 million with an estimated building cost at Warwick of $11 million (ill try and find the link). As everyone knows labour is the biggest cost on any building project. The wtbs is probably saving 2/3 of their building costs by using free (slave) labour.

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Awake January 2015: How did life begin? - More misquotes

by Designer Stubble in

[quote]some might assume that a scientifically-minded person would pick evolution and that a religious person would pick creation.

but not always.. rama singh, professor of biology at canadas mcmaster university, says: the opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population.[/quote].

end-of-quote in awake.

lurkernomore

Marked

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Bible - War in heaven - Satan cast to earth - Why?

by berrygerry in

reading the oct 1 1953 wt about gog of magog because of the posts about the changes of identity.. basic question:.

why would satan (whether gog or not) be cast to the earth?.

why not cast him to quadrant 4 of the galaxy?.

lurkernomore

Good point. Why would a 'loving' creator put his creation under the influence of such an evil force unnecessarily??? Like you said, God has the entire universe at his disposal. Surely it would make more sense to banish satan to the farthest reaches of said universe. The more I read and the more I research the things taught in the bible, the more it seems to me like a bunch of nonsense.

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Purging and letting go of the past

by Skinnedsheep in

my wife and i decided that today would be the day that we would let go of the past.

we collected all of our watchtower published books and brochures and threw them out.

it was honestly bitter sweet to toss our old pioneer books, marked up insight books, and notes from 25 years of conventions.

lurkernomore

Well done Ss! I had a half way clear out today. All duplicates are now in the recycling waste. It's nice to have some more space on the bookshelf, especially now my wife has bought the entire Game of Thrones series and we had no space to put them :D

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For fans of older PC games

by glenster in

for fans of older pc games:.

http://glenster1.webs.com/freepcpinballmodsforlo.htm.

it includes carmageddon 1 and 2.. http://www.carmageddon.com/.

lurkernomore

Star trek birth of the federation is an absolute classic!