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Posts by SAHS
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by XBEHERE indear brothers:.
you will be pleased to know that the governing body has approved displaying the official.
logo for jw.org on assembly halls and kingdom halls.
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Watchtower Victims Memorial Day July 26
by Londo111 ini see this is two days away...i don't have anything planned, but im open to ideas.. anybody participating in this?
if so, what are you doing?.
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SAHS
If everybody were to scatter, say, just ten AAWA fliers around their local Kingdom Hall or Assembly Hall or bus stop or park, imagine what a “witness” we could give. It would be worth it if it causes even one person to wake up and be able to escape the clutches of the WT monster, before it’s too late for them.
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Women elders, what difference would they make?
by Freedom77 inokay, let's do a big what-if: suppose the gb for its own unfathomable reasons suddenly got new light (tm) and decided to start appointing women elders and ministerial servants.
they would, of course, refer to the examples of junia (apostle), and priscilla and phoebe (deaconesses in wordlyspeak) in the greek scriptures; never mind what mental somersaults it would take to get them there.
stranger things have happened in wt history.. that being the case, would having women in positions of real authority make any significant difference in the congos or in the borg as a whole, and why or why not?.
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“Freedom77”: “Are you saying women bring nothing unique at all to their positions, that women and men are interchangeable with identical points of view on all subjects? Just askin'.”
Notice that I had said that women “basically have the same mental abilities as men.” So, I acknowledge that women, in fact, do bring somewhat of a unique insight, or “flavor,” to the table. (I suspect that it may somehow relate to their usually being slightly more left-brained and creative than right-brained and analytical, at least in a solely mechanical sense.)
“Fernando”: “Women are mostly not naturally into power, control, authority, sectarianism, fundamentalism, legalism, moralism, hypocrisy, self-righteousness and works-righteousness. Women are naturally into family, community, peace, unity, love and liberty.”
Wow, that’s quite the overgeneralization! Reading that, I’m supposing that you would also have a whole slew of stereotypical prejudices regarding race and ethnicity. To sum up that kind of thinking: Women = kitchen, man = smarter/stronger, this race = bad, that race = good. (Spoiler: Leave It to Beaver was just a TV show. The real world doesn’t actually work that way.)
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Women elders, what difference would they make?
by Freedom77 inokay, let's do a big what-if: suppose the gb for its own unfathomable reasons suddenly got new light (tm) and decided to start appointing women elders and ministerial servants.
they would, of course, refer to the examples of junia (apostle), and priscilla and phoebe (deaconesses in wordlyspeak) in the greek scriptures; never mind what mental somersaults it would take to get them there.
stranger things have happened in wt history.. that being the case, would having women in positions of real authority make any significant difference in the congos or in the borg as a whole, and why or why not?.
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SAHS
For the next consideration of the Watchtower, to be held this Sunday, July 27, 2014 (in the magazine dated May 15, 2014), on page 23, paragraph eight, it states the following:
“In addition to Israel’s numerous priests and Levites, for example, there were ‘women who were organized to serve at the entrance of the tent of meeting.’ (Ex. 38:8).” [my emphasis]
So, I guess Jehovah’s standards have changed to become even more picky since ancient Israel, because back then women could actually “serve at the entrance of the tent of meeting” but now they can’t even help out behind the literature counter, handle the microphones, or operate the sound system. Apparently now everything requires at least a “ministerial servant,” who, of course, just has to have the male plumbing equipment. Ridiculous!
I’m not a woman myself, but that whole thing regarding the treatment of women in the WTS has always made me upset. I guess because it’s just one more thing that confirms to me and reminds me that it has to be a cult.
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Women elders, what difference would they make?
by Freedom77 inokay, let's do a big what-if: suppose the gb for its own unfathomable reasons suddenly got new light (tm) and decided to start appointing women elders and ministerial servants.
they would, of course, refer to the examples of junia (apostle), and priscilla and phoebe (deaconesses in wordlyspeak) in the greek scriptures; never mind what mental somersaults it would take to get them there.
stranger things have happened in wt history.. that being the case, would having women in positions of real authority make any significant difference in the congos or in the borg as a whole, and why or why not?.
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SAHS
“Women elders, what difference would they make?”
Actually, I don’t believe that women would really make any difference at all because they basically have the same mental abilities as men. Woman are functioning quite fine in the business and political world. Contrary to Franklin Rutherford’s statement, “ What is a woman anyway, but a hank of hair and a bag of bones, ” women have more than adequately proven their abilities in this world, given a chance.
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Is is right to leave your job for the WT? In an assembly interview
by skin inwe had an assembly part here 6 months ago where a sister was interviewed by the co because she left her job to do more wt work, she talked about some jobs that she had recently been offered with good pay but turned these down.
most listening to this is would be thinking that this sister is being blessed by jehovah for taking this stand, how much faith she has to do this and what can we do personally with our own jobs, made me almost feel guilty for having a job.
anyway come forward 6 months to now, this family has had to move to another region because the husband couldnt find enough work to support his family here.
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“ I never totally believed these assembly presentations about people giving up jobs and scholarships in order to pioneer. ”
Those interviews you see at assemblies are about as honest and factual as the old wheelchair scam, where the person is suddenly “healed” and starts walking but they were never crippled to begin with.
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Is is right to leave your job for the WT? In an assembly interview
by skin inwe had an assembly part here 6 months ago where a sister was interviewed by the co because she left her job to do more wt work, she talked about some jobs that she had recently been offered with good pay but turned these down.
most listening to this is would be thinking that this sister is being blessed by jehovah for taking this stand, how much faith she has to do this and what can we do personally with our own jobs, made me almost feel guilty for having a job.
anyway come forward 6 months to now, this family has had to move to another region because the husband couldnt find enough work to support his family here.
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SAHS
The purpose of those experiences on the platform at the district conventions is to make people think that the majority of their fellow members aspire to follow an artificial, spuriously-contrived standard.
It is similar to the famous sociological psychiatry experiment devised by Solomon Asch, where people were tricked into changing their perceptions to match that of what they were intentionally misled to perceive to be that of the majority. It’s really all about deception in trying to convey the incorrect idea that most in the audience would just love to quit their jobs and pioneer if they possibly could. Truth is, of course, that a very significant proportion of JWs don’t even have their Watchtower studied and underlined for the Sunday meeting – let alone have a burning desire to pioneer.
So, the next time you see one of those interviews on the platform of folks who seem to be just itching to make whatever sacrifices they can to “advance kingdom interests,” just remember that what you are seeing is merely the mirage which the WTS wants you to perceive. It’s really all just marketing fluff – and nothing more.
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most important event in the 20th century
by scotoma injune 28 1914 archduke ferdinand was killed by a serbian government sponsored assassination team.. this was the trigger event of world war i. actually some have called it world war (part 1) followed less than 30 years later by world war (part 2).. in retrospect this was a useful date for jw's.. it has propelled them for 100 years.. of course jw's have massaged their predictions about the significance of 1914 over the years.. do you feel that jw's would be what they are today without that great war?
do you think that the shooting down of the passenger plane over east ukraine will be an equivalent moment that pushes putin into a corner where he will have to fight the west?
in other words will we look back on that event as the beginning of world war (part 3)?.
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Actually, the First World War started on JULY 28, 1914, but according to the book What Does The Bible Really Teach? (2005), pp. 217-218, the Gentile times ended and Jesus began ruling (invisibly) in OCTOBER of 1914. So, technically, the Watchtower Society didn’t really hit the bull’s-eye even with that most important date of theirs.
And, of course, as we all know, 1914 was originally supposed to be “not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble.” (Zion’s Watch Tower, 1894, July 15, p. 226)
So, the Watchtower Society didn’t quite hit the target in relation to WW1, and the arrow went assbackwards.
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Is the Bible just as fake as the JW's
by BackSlider init seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.
is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?
would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?
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Whether or not there is some kind of entity with some sort of intelligence which put in place the structured processes of the universe, one thing I do know is that ALL the world’s religions, which attempt to explain the nature of an “Almighty God” by arbitrarily putting him into some kind of theological “box,” are WRONG, WRONG, DEAD WRONG! That’s right, NONE of them are correct, because a scientific premise of a magical deity is really invalid by definition. (I.e., Harry Potter is, in fact, just a movie, and there ain’t no such thing as magic, folks.)
Things can be contrived and embellished, especially words, especially over centuries, especially by those with, um, less than honest and righteous intentions. (Why, we still see plenty of those kind of people today, don’t we.) Trickery and charlatanry have always been, and continue to be, a fundamental part of the fabric of human society in so many other areas, so why wouldn’t that also include the area of religion, of all things? (Remember, there’s nothing like religion to promote the self-serving, egotistical, narcissistic interests of a powerful elite minority.)
It’s really not too hard to imagine that fiction and cultural mythology would be the very nature and essence of religion itself (yes, all of them), because, well, just think of this for a moment: We currently have folks purporting there to be a Sasquatch (Big Foot); Loch Ness Monster; Abominable Snowman; little green men from a flying saucer in Roswell, New Mexico; Chupacabra (“goat-sucking” demon creature); Leprechaun (Irish folklore); etc., etc. . . . Not to mention dragons, unicorns, Smurfs, Care Bears, those talking M&M candies, etc. – and who knows, perhaps one of those juvenile fictitious creatures or characters will eventually be written up in some holy book in the future and widely accepted as fact. Things like that can evolve and eventually graduate from obvious fantasy to some dogmatic words read aloud in churches of the future.
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What did Russell mean by this statement?
by LogCon inspeaking of dwight moody and his associates, pastor russell wrote:.
it is our thought that the lord used these men, and through their ministry the fore-ordained number was completed at the fore-ordained time, 1881. .
why 1881?.
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“LogCon”: “. . . The fore-ordained number was completed at the fore-ordained time, 1881.”
That just made me think of something: There is absolutely no way to actually tabulate the cumulative number of the 144,000 anointed since Pentacost 33 C.E. So, there could be absolutely no way to confirm whether that number would have been completed by any date. It’s not like newly-anointed ones were put into some timeless Excel spreadsheet starting in the first century. The WTS can therefire spin it any way they wish. It’s like trying to state what events supposedly occurred up in “heaven.” You could say whatever you like – who could prove or disprove it?