“Jehovah’s purpose to have one large happy human family without factions” . . . but evidently not without fractions!
(Sorry. I just couldn’t resist.)
jw's are such a happy group .
let's see how this talk addresses the internal issues that we find within the jw's such as:.
courtesy of jwfacts.com.
“Jehovah’s purpose to have one large happy human family without factions” . . . but evidently not without fractions!
(Sorry. I just couldn’t resist.)
this statement startled me out of the pleasant mental absence during this week's "service" meeting.. pushing the org.
explanation: "the listener has time to interrupt, if they want--" .
together with an incredible boring "study" of an hand held device, or it's stored content, i will be a totally new crop of orgies at the halls,.
“prologos”: “"The listener has time to interrupt, if they want--"”
Well, maybe next the WTS will instruct publishers to bring along an amplifier system with high-efficiency speakers turned up to a volume that will override those “interruptions.” My mom told me that in the early days, publishers were instructed to read a rather lengthy sermon and not allow the householder to interrupt until they were finished. Looks like the WTS is coming full circle in that regard.
“westiebilly11”: “Suspect the video approach is because the org don't trust the witnesses to deliver a message....because basically they don't know why they're calling on people anymore...”
The WTS is probably being hyper-vigilant in considering the potential image damage and legalities of their rank-and-file publishers misrepresenting the organization by, let’s say, less than polished presentations. Now everything is canned, not just the piano music at the Kingdom Hall.
i literally just sat there with my mouth open.
sometimes the delusional mind of jws takes steroids.. it was during the draw close to jehovah study where they praise the mosaic law and how perfectly wonderful it was.
you should have seen the almost giddy attitude the conductor had and the comments from the audience.
I too felt sick when going through this latest material in the “Congregation Bible Study.” The book mentions how the Israelites apparently didn’t kill wantonly or rape women. Yah, right. But when those old assholes blew the war signal in their silver trumpets, the out-of-control hockey team known as the Israelites went to work doing what they did best: killing as many men, women, children, animals, non-fruit-bearing trees, Smurfs, or anything else they could get their hateful, greedy hands on. The only exception was that they weren’t to kill young girls who had never had sexual relations with a man. (No, they would be the ones to turn them girls into real women.)
As far as ‘not raping,’ the truth of the matter is that the Israelites captured females and then, after waiting for a “a whole month” (to allow the poor girls to grieve for their killed parents), they could “have relations with [them]” and take them as their wives. (Deut. 21:10-13) And I guess they had to bloody well like it or lump it – literally. (Lumps, black eyes, knocked out teeth – well, you get the idea.)
Such a loving God, ain’t he?
at a recent circuit assembly "business meeting" for elders, a new program was announced: "funds on deposit".. here's how it works:.
each circuit determines a "floor" and a "ceiling" for an amount to hold in their circuit checking account.
when the "ceiling" amount is exceeded, the amount above the threshold is wired to the wts and held by them.. if the circuit checking account drops below the "floor" amount, the circuit can send a request to the wts to request that some of their "funds on deposit" be returned to them so that their checking account resumes a "safe" level.. as explained by the elder explaining the program,, "in other words, the branch is acting exactly like a bank - the circuit will make deposits and withdrawals as needed.
This “funds on deposit” thing kind of reminds me of the operation of a car’s battery and alternator. The WTS is like the battery, which constantly sucks in more excess current from the alternator. The circuit (no pun intended) acts like the alternator, which is constantly spinning and pumping out more current to keep that hungry battery topped up with juice (electric charge). And that busy, spinning alternator is like a hamster wheel, which is powered by all the rank-and-file members (the little rats) scurrying along with their little feet by pounding the pavement giving out their new little tractizines.
And so the little rats’ feet scurry away, the hamster wheel of the alternator, which is the circuit (again, no pun intended) spins, making more current to give to top up the big, heavy, hungry battery of the WTS. Only the little rats in the circuit don’t really realize how much they’ve been endlessly spinning the hamster wheel to perpetuate the satisfying of the WTS’ operation, which, in reality, is a nest egg for them, but nothing but a big scam and a rat race for everyone else down through to the bottom.
In other words: Lots of huff and puff for more fluff and bluff!
what the hell is going on here?
i drove past the assembly hall today and noticed the square blue jw.org signs on the building.
coupled with the steel gate that keeps worldlings out, it really looks quite cultish.. so is that the new name for the kingdom halls or something?
It kind of reminds me of those commercials for that new investment bank, ING Direct, now called “Tangerine.” It shows a somewhat youngish guy holding a tangerine-colored coffee mug saying, “It’s that simple!,” and they highlight the color tangerine. The WTS should make some sort of similar commercial – only their catch phrase would be, “Think blue: JW.org.” I can just imagine such a commercial with a governing body member holding a blue-colored coffee mug with the JW.org logo on it.
so i have been told that all kingdom halls are to have a large jw.org sign placed prominently out the front..... can anyone confirm this?.
“Finkelstein”: “Quite true AlphaMan, back in the mid 80's the WTS. put information in the Awake demeaning the use of computers, even quoting Scripture something to do with building a tower for oneself.”
Now, isn’t that ironic! The Watchtower organization has obviously been doing just that. And now they have their new golden calf logo – except it’s not gold; it’s blue.
comments you will not hear at the 09-21-2014 wt study (july 15, 2014, pages (23-27) old testament jws.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=w&yearfilter=2014.
review comments will be headed outside the boxes.
I didn’t make any public comment during this Watchtower study because I chose not to be there. I was at a monthly “apostate” luncheon near my local area (“The Toronto Ex-Jehovah’s Witness Social Group”). Actually, I was applying the counsel at Ephesians 5:16, where it says to be “. . . making the best use of your time, . . .” (RNWT) – and, of course, the mutual support by our fellow TTATT-knowers is an infinitely better use of time than being pinned down in a Kingdom Hell or being dragged along in the serve-us. So, that’s why I didn’t attend the meeting and give a comment for this Watchtower study. I had a good excuse for a good cause.
....well, i was going to wait.
go out with a bang!?
i decided (like many others this week!
“RagingBull”: “The MORE people start leaving, the MORE others will notice and will have a NEED to find out WHY so many are leaving so fast...so frequently.”
I was just thinking: Back in the early days, the Bible Students / JWs would stand outside of the Christian churches on Sundays and hand out tracts to the people as they were leaving the property. Now, if the people who voluntarily leave the JWs did something similar, say, handing out some color flyers from “AAWA.co” or some choice material from “JWFacts.com,” then maybe that would get quite a few JWs to start the process of actually questioning and eventually waking up. The JWs did basically the same thing back in their early glory days, so if us contemporary “apostates” did something similar, we could always say that fair is fair.
so tonight just sucks ad i just want to vent to people who don't know me irl.. my wife and i have two kids.
i was still in when we got together but my wife never was.
when we actually got married i moved out of my parents place and never went back to a kingdom hall again.
To “backformore”: Just a general principle that comes to my mind is that old saying, “One in the hand is better than two in the bush” (probably relating to catching birds). It all boils down to playing the odds. The given known is that you have your wife and two children right now and everything seems more or less “okay” for you and your family. Spin the wheel of chance and it lands on a third child by invetro fertilization, and there could be devestating problems with your wife and/or whatever baby which the process might produce. Or, spin the wheel and it lands on a third child by adoption, and there could likewise be some kind of unfortunate problems and grief, either now or later. Or, spin the wheel and it lands on a third child by an interim arrangement of foster care through some family services agency. Again, there could be some unforseen problems and grief, but more on a trial basis than a permanent arrangement. Still, none of the options which that wheel of chance could land on have any guarantees of absolute or worry-free “success.” Again, it’s basically a matter of playing the odds.
If I were you, not being any kind of a gambling man myself, I would only proceed with the utmost caution and patience. You could keep spinning that wheel of chance, but you know that you could always simply take what you have right now – which seems to me, from your above post, to be quite “okay” and desirable indeed. Above anything else, just make sure that you and your family enjoy whatever you have right at this moment, and try not to agonize or worry unnecessarily. Above all, just bask in the happiness, contentment, and gratitude which is tangibly possible right at this very moment.
Take care. Best wishes for you and your family.
https://anointedjw.org/fight_fine_fight.html.
first, message received, i get it.
these guys are way out there and full of themselves.
“anointedjw.org/Fight_Fine_Fight.html”: “The Governing Body has no problem with brothers proclaiming their so-called ‘earthly hope,’ yet through their minions, they seek to silence all who dare even mention their heavenly hope!”
I can see where the GB would be worried about a steady influx of rank-and-file members identifying themselves as anointed because, according to them, the number of anointed partakers yearly should really be going down as an indication of the nearness of Armageddon, but instead it is going up. (Notice how the yearly anointed partakers figure, along with the yearly preaching statistics report, is no longer prominently featured in the Watchtower magazine!) This only serves to show that the partakers who are considered “properly anointed” as per the GB are really no more legitimately anointed than anybody else.
“anointedjw.org/Fight_Fine_Fight.html”: “As loyalty to the Governing Body becomes more radicalized and suspicions upon innocent brothers continue to increase, the organization will ultimately implode under its own self aggrandizement and manmade teachings.”
The fact that they are, indeed, a self-appointed, self-serving group of men is being revealed more and more for all to see, especially now with such greater access to information.