“Alostpuppydog”: “These one day convention make as much sense as pouring coffee in my ear.”
LOL!!
Posts by SAHS
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by zeb inwell my wife is off to a one day convention and will doubtless return home cranky and tired.
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Watchtower Study Article: "You Fit Enjoy Your Marriage!"
by Wild_Thing inso, the watchtower study article, "making christian marriage a success" can best be enjoyed when reading it in the language of nigerian pidgin.
) e good make love dey make the two of dem think about how the other person dey feel and wetin e need.
3:7) e no good make dem force each other but make their body first move dem to do am.
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SAHS
Why does this topic make me feel like jerk or Cajun chicken?
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Front cover of the 2017 Watchtower - unbelievable!
by freddo instudy edition.
january 2017.
(can someone put up a link please?).
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“sparrowdown”: “The next magazine will show a sister witnessing in a skirt on MT Everest and the one after that under the sea in diving gear and skirt -of course!”
LOL!!!
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Front cover of the 2017 Watchtower - unbelievable!
by freddo instudy edition.
january 2017.
(can someone put up a link please?).
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“baker”: “At least the magazines can come to some good use, when nature calls...”
LOL!!!
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Oops, I did it again! Flag placed in the KH: Chile 2016
by ILoveTTATT2 inmy friends,.
what has become now a yearly tradition for me: getting the videos/photos of the flag in chile for their national holidays.. this is the 2016 version, i believe the clearest example yet:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b94j3lmqx_w&feature=youtu.be.
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“joe134cd”: “(1) An ultra dub pioneer sister at first was unaware of it and denied it. When I pushed the issue a little further, and showed her proof she then blocked me.”
Isn’t that so typical of JWs that whenever you try to show them the concrete proof of such things, they immediately just shut down (usually after spewing the famous line about ‘the light getting brighter’).
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Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter
by sp74bb ini'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.
many has shown interest in this situation.
the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.
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“Hecce”: “. . . but the elders are not following procedure by inviting him to a JC without going thru the previous step of the conversation with two elders.”
“cofty”: “There is no judicial unless there is a confession or two witnesses.”
Those are both certainly valid points, which should be acknowledged. In fact, at least according to the details provided by the original poster (Mr. López / “sp74bb”), the standard procedure of the Watch Tower organization for initiating a judicial proceeding and forming a committee seems to have not been followed by this evidently errant local body of elders.
This consideration of the validity of the manner in which the judicial process was initiated is a separate issue from the propriety of sending a request to attend (like an amateur “summons”) in the mail, as well as the part in the letter asking whether Mr. López wishes to basically disassociate himself from being one of Jehovah’s Winesses, which is also contrary to the direction in the elders’ Shepherd the Flock manual.
If the legitimately-established protocols from Watch Tower had been followed before the elders’ letter was sent, then that letter would have been fine – except, of course, for the part asking if Mr. López wished to disassociate at that time. But, as it is, the timing of such a letter advising of a specific date for a judicial trial was inappropriate due to the lack of the steps required beforehand, as noted by “Hecce” and “cofty” above.
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Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter
by sp74bb ini'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.
many has shown interest in this situation.
the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.
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SAHS
I don’t see anything illegal or wrong in itself with the letter from the congregation elders in the original post. The letter stated: “We tried to call you several ways but we were unable.” So, to me it appears that, in all fairness, the elders were just trying to do what they thought was their due diligence in informing Mr. López in writing of the letter they received from someone making an accusation, and formally requesting him to attend a judicial meeting to hopefully ascertain and clarify the facts of the matter to come to some kind of resolution. The purpose of the letter from the elders was to just to confirm whether or not Mr. López would be attending the proposed judicial meeting, and to provide the opportunity for him to let them know in writing whether or not he still wishes to be considered a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
That’s really all the elders were trying to do by sending the letter. There was no mention of any kind of threat or judgment. The letter was simply to confirm whether or not Mr. López was going to attend the judicial meeting and to ask if he still wants to be a Jehovah’s Witness. They just wanted to confirm the situation and where things stand so they can tie up the loose ends in their written records.
Now, the nature and disposition of any actual judicial meetings with the elder committee would be a different matter completely. Don’t get me wrong – I don’t believe it’s proper, fair, or even legal in any general, “natural” law sense the way these kangaroo court judicial meetings are run, which tend to be very authoritarian, arbitrary, and high-handed. That part, if it should come to that, deserves some outside scrutiny, as well as media involvement, to be sure.
But as for the elders’ letter itself in the original post, I think it was basically just requesting clarification of the status of Mr. López’s attendance at the meeting. While the elders, as well as the Watch Tower corporation, would certainly have some sort of accountability in their actions at any judicial hearing, it’s nevertheless only fair and reasonable for the elders to at least be able to know whether or not to expect him to attend.
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JW remark about blood transfusion
by Gorbatchov inrecent i had a conversation with an old jw friend.
he told me his mother rejected a blood transfusion in a critical fase, and survived it, and of course it's good to hear that she makes it good now.. what me triggered, was a remark he made about what the elder of the hospital committee told him.. this elder praised the mother of my old friend because of rejecting the transfusion.
the elder told them that most jehovah's witness in the netherlands take a blood transfusion when their life is at stake.
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“Gorbatchov”: “So, my observation is that although the doctrine is still there, most witnesses in more "individual" cultures like here in Holland choose to make their own decision.”
That is the way it is in reality. But the WT tries to make everyone, including their own members as well as the general public, think that by far the vast majority of JWs always remain united and loyal to the organization, even to death. However, the WT will never allow an accurate picture of the situation to become known. (And don’t even dare say the word “Bulgaria”!)
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Australian freelance writer on The Everyday Life of a Jehovah`s Witness.
by smiddy inlewis edwards is an australian freelance journalist / writer who has written a series of articles about jehovah`s witnesses in "the news hub" , the latest on the 9/15/ 2016. very well written on " the everyday life of a jehovahs witness".
i reccomend you read it.. jarrod booth also has an extremely interesting article in this publication .
"the news hub".
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SAHS
Excellent article, “smiddy”/“blondie”! Quite reasonable, and spot-on.
Another article from that same Australian News Hub Website regarding the Watch Tower’s Hospital Liaison Committees (HLC) and Patient Visitation Groups (PVG) is very much worth reading! I think that everyone in our local communities should read this brief but very telling article, at:
https://www.the-newshub.com/general/hlc-pvg-jehovahs-witness-death-squads-coerce-medical-suicide
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September 17th 19...
by LogansRun inone decision one day one event , today is the anniversary of the plunge that ruined my life .i was young and now i'm old and feel screwed over - ok my personal pity party is over if you made it this far thank you for just being out there.. now my fading update, no meetings for 3 weeks they don't know yet i'm not coming back but thanks to this site and many helpful youtube stories i have some tools to know how to play this game.
because this is a fade i have not been able to tell my story but it really is unique ,i can say at this time there is no wife or kids involved but i do have siblings in this and my oldest brother is a super strict witness to the point of being a bully but thankfully most of my extended family are not j-dubs and that's what's going to help me get through this along with all of you .
have a great day folks !.
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SAHS
Congratulations, “LogansRun,” on your, I assume intentional, three-week absence from the cult meetings (intentional as opposed to being laid up in the hospital or something). You’re on the right track now. Instead of focusing on the anniversary of your baptism (coercion dunk), now you can focus, with pride, on whatever will be the anniversary date of your taking charge of the rest of your life and actually accomplishing your long-overdue escape from the WT mind prison.
Good luck on making your total escape from the cult a reality! Keep us posted.