Posts by peacebaby

There is no hidden message, Galimo. LOL! Although some other religions share unique doctrinal differences with JW's[non-trinity, no burning hell..], witnesses are taught that they exclusively have all the truth. They've set themselves apart from all 'Christendom'. Upon leaving the organization, they are shunned and unable to make contact with former friends and family, like the black sheep - 'outcasts'. It's a harrowing ordeal, being totally cut-off from their former lives. The disfellowshipping and shunning policies are supposed to make the 'bad' one rethink their tragic disagreement with the WT, and come crawling back to the safety of the 'flock'; however, the basic lack of love, more often than not, keeps them away - feeling bad, worse, worst about themselves. And some wonder why depression is rampant among the witnesses! They are told there is no where else to go - most wouldn't think of attending main-stream churches due to the WT indoctrination. Sometimes the only ones they feel they can talk to, who would understand the deep emotional pull of the WT, are other ex-witnesses, who have been there, done that, and got the stupid t-shirts.

Check out the Seventh Day Adventists recovery sites - SDA's experiences are very similar to the JW's - seems to be a matter of control....Happy reading - hope you've got a bottle of aspirin and a box of tissues handy! Peaceout- peacebaby

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Receipe Request for Beer Bread

by darkuncle29 in

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receipe request for beer bread.

like the topic says.

i will most likely be using seltzer water instead of beer; the beer i have in the fridge is just too nasty for anything.

peacebaby

dark uncle - My husband and I have 'brewed at home' for about 4 years now.... The kit we really loved [Canadian Ale] has been discontinued, of course, so we've been trying some others - English Ale is next. No matter what type we've made, it's all good stuff. A bit stronger than boughten, so 1 = 2, more-or-less! It's really simple, little equipment to buy[5 gal. containers, long handled spoon, hygrometer, bottle capper], and a very satisfying DIY project! Some kits have all the ingredients ready to add at the proper time; some kits require cooking and steeping the raw ingredients[barley, hops, different grains, malt...] We've tried both types, and being lazy, prefer the ones you just throw together and wait! Warning - the wait on your first brew can become unbearable! You'll find a lot of information online. We get cases of empty bottles at the liquor store and sanitize them, but you can buy new. If you have any trouble, you can pm me - I've also bottled home-made wine from my own grapes and black raspberries - YUM- hick!- MMMY!

Happy brewing! ----------- Make wine, not war! --------------------------- peacebaby

Another good use for nasty beer - You can cook a big swiss steak in the oven - cover with beer and slice an onion thinly over it - cover and cook at 325 degressF for 3 - 4 hours. It would be a waste of GOOD beer....!

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How would a JW list in order ...

by Will Power in

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how would a jw put in order of importance, priority, loyalty

would the list on paper be different than that actually practiced?

jehovah

peacebaby

Will Power - I'm sorry I bent your gender! It might be better if you were a man! Like Blondie said - it's tough on the 'unbelieving' wife - she should be submissive and 'learn quietly'..... It's quite a power trip for some men, hopefully not in your case. In any case, it's not fair that your feelings and opinions aren't being taken into consideration. If you've been researching this for 4 years - you must feel like you've come through a meat grinder, you poor thing! Looks like it's still grinding. I'll be thinking about you.....

pb

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Cat Dictionary: Contributions Necessary

by Stephanus in

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cats may well live with us, but they don't live like us.

i've noticed over the years that how we perceive stuff and how cats process the same info is often so different as to be almost alien.

here are a few i've been thinking about recently (all contributions of more examples gratefully received!

peacebaby

These are hilarious! Some fortunate cats to own people like you! ROFL!

$4.99 Cat Toy - Something to be totally avoided, ignored or feared...

Crumpled Cigarette Pack - The most fascinating, play-worthy cat toy ever invented!

My cat, Jerry, will fetch like a dog. But only his special little sparkly balls - nothing else. He brings it right back and gets a pat on the butt for being such a good puppy-kitty! We want to get him on tape- but he's wary of the camera, and won't perform. Cat 11 Black Cat Black Cat 2 peacebaby

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Break through !

by Puternut in

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i have been df'd for about a year and also been going through a nasty divorce.

my ex has the kids and they're all jw's.

so my ex has been pumping into my childrens heads, that since i am df'd, they are to have no contact with me.

peacebaby

This is really happy news! Look at all the encouragment, concern and brotherly love extended to you from your friends here! What a warm bunch! I'm new, and don't really 'know' you, but please accept my my congratulations, too. You've gone and raised kids who are smarter than their 'elders'! They know it - LOVE NEVER FAILS- Bouncing Hearts -LOVE RULES! - peacebaby

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Hello

by Octavia in

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is this jehovah's witnesses annonymous?

hi... i'm octavia, and i'm an ex-jehovah's witness.

peacebaby

Hello Octavia! I'm new here, too, and I like it. This is a real transitional phase we're going through - I'm on my 'official' way out, too. Hope you find encouragement, love, and a laugh or 2.

Peace and Love from peacebaby

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Know Any Muslim Ex-JW's ?

by peacebaby in

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about 3 years ago, my very best friend 'in the troof' slowly started to fade.

she made excuses - she and her husband were too busy running their small business, the baby was sick, the kids had something going on at school, etc... after a while she just stopped.

i thought it was her sometimes-opposing husband.

peacebaby

Thanks for your thoughtful replies - you've helped me see some things from a different viewpoint.

My friend is a good person, with a good heart, and I love her, and I never shunned her. I didn't reject her - I felt rejected by her. We had been nearly joined at the hips, up to the point she started studying Islam. She probably was trying to protect me, and our respective feelings, by going about it in a secretive manner. I was awfully quick to get my feelings hurt over what I thought she was hiding from me - when I'm sure she felt she was shielding me - fearing it would be an insurmountable stumbling block for our friendship..... and for my being a 'good dub'..... Thanks, Carmel, I see that now....

avishai - I understand now that I haven't felt guilty for loving her - the guilt comes from that slavish WT mindset. I've been feeling guilty because:1.) I don't feel remorse for not hating her, and 2.) I have to hide the fact that I don't hate her. Isn't that twisted logic? That's what the shunning policy is based on - sick, hateful, twisted logic. Yes, Jesus, our exemplar, said it - "love even your enemies", an all-encompassing, surpassing love.

meat pie - I wasn't aware that my statement was an Islamic belief - I didn't get that from my friend, it's something I've come to believe since my association with WTBTS. Even though they put up a good argument as 'the one true religion' , as you said - all religions think they're The One. There are as many interpretations of God as there are people - no one has yet been able to put God in a box. I've seen too many real examples of Christ-like love outside WT[and too many bad example 'inside'] to ever think they'd cornered the market on Jehovah's approval. Only God and His Son are able to read hearts - I'm sure not. Good advice - I'm just gonna love her, as I am assured that God knows best...

I'm going to write her right now, and remind her how much I love and miss her. [She moved 2 states away.] I'm sure if she hadn't moved, we wouldn't be having this exchange - she and I would've figured it all out between the 2 of us long ago...... Then I'm going to write another letter, dissing my association with the hate mongers who will view me with righteous hatred and shun me for being an apostate, too....

I'm finally ready..... 2pac Peace and Love from peacebaby

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How would a JW list in order ...

by Will Power in

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how would a jw put in order of importance, priority, loyalty

would the list on paper be different than that actually practiced?

jehovah

peacebaby

will - You said you've been married 20 years, and your wife is a new JW - is she now baptised, or is she studying? If she is baptised, and you're just now starting to have questions - where have you been? I mean, it takes several months of intense indoctrination to become 'an eligible candidate' for baptism.....?

Everything Estee said - DITTO & add: the "don'ts" will overcome the "dos" with phrases like these: 'the public talk brought out that we shouldn't..., 'the Watchtower says we can't', 'Sister So&So said the Bible says we're not allowed...', 'we're taught that JW's don't'... A protection against 'worldly people' - which you are - if you're not one of them...

This must be the 'club' you're talking about! Good Vs Evil

The simple God-given principles of marriage are fine and pure - it is a sacred unity, instituted by a loving Father. Much is written in the mags about the Bible standards of love, respect, honesty, understanding, loyalty, patience, and trust between mates. It sounds perfect on the 'outside', but the longer you're 'in' the more you learn how they've added and added to the already perfect Word of God - even make it seem like God changes His mind from time to time...oops, then changes it back! The simple and true meaning of unselfish love is lost - squashed under a ton of man-made regulations and restrictions. It's amazing how they come up with the reasonings - they make you believe it - and try to make you like it! I was apalled to learn, well after I was baptised, that there are many rules about where, when, and how you may or may not put your hands, mouths, body parts, etc. - on, in or near your wife/husband - in the privacy of your own bedroom......and a member can be disfellowshipped or disassociated by not following the letter of their laws. If it's divulged that you're not 'towing the line', prepare to be dragged before an inquisition[council of elders] about the details of your most private sex life. Whoa! Does that get your attention? That's just the tip of the iceberg, man....and you're the Titanic.... A friend of mine was 'counseled' that she could 'scripturally divorce' her husband[15 yrs.-4 kids] because he made it difficult for her to attend all the meetings. [He was tired of going without dinner, and really missed spending time with her and the kids...] I hope something gets your attention, and I hope it's not too late.....

You need to read, read, read - get on the web and read everything. Type in 'Jehovah's Witnesses' or 'religious cults' in your search bar - I hope you're totally freaked by what you find --- everyone is! Share everything with your wife in an honest and loving way - discuss everything openly. Before you're sucked in is the only time you're allowed to have a choice, or question, doubt, or disagree about anything. Question it ALL - it's your LIVES. One more thing - wanna complicate things 100-fold? Have children, hopefully not one with a blood disorder. Read the horror stories for yourselves, please?

You'll both be in my prayers today..................Love and Peace, peacebaby

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Witness family adopt baby lion cub!

by got my forty homey? in

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baby lion cub is very unhappy to find that it was adopted by a witness family and will be forced to not eat cat food with blood in it!

peacebaby

SD- ROFL! I've not gotten 'into' Monty Python nearly enough, I see! And no, tigers are not dim at all!

Hippie peacebaby