Posts by paradisebeauty

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Is this doctrine still in in effect?

by WasOnceBlind in

so something i never knew was the fact jw's were taught that jesus is only the mediator for the anointed class and not for everyone.

i only found this out after reading "crisis of conscience" and i was actually pretty shocked to learn so.

if that is the case, when they pray why even bother saying the words "in the name of jesus christ we ask"?

paradisebeauty

Thank you Searcher!

And before that there is this sentence:

Jesus Christ is not the mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the mediator between Jehovah and the spiritual israel which is limited to 144000 ...

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A Whole New Watchtower Society (Governing Body 3.0 / Simplified Society)

by FusionTheism in

a whole new watchtower society (governing body 3.0 / simplified society).

i'm not here to attack the governing body, watchtower society, or the jehovah's witnesses (jw) organization.

the bible says there is just "one hope" for christians (ephesians 4:4).

paradisebeauty

FusionTheism

here is a webpage to some christians who believe something similar as you wrote.

Truthortradition.com

they also have free ebooks and postcasts with their believes

I think it is a great idea to send a letter to the GB, maybe maybe they will get back to their senses. But it is probably better to not sign it with your real name. Wonder if they read it in this case.

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A Whole New Watchtower Society (Governing Body 3.0 / Simplified Society)

by FusionTheism in

a whole new watchtower society (governing body 3.0 / simplified society).

i'm not here to attack the governing body, watchtower society, or the jehovah's witnesses (jw) organization.

the bible says there is just "one hope" for christians (ephesians 4:4).

paradisebeauty

I agree with you. With one addition, about the one hope of christians.

In revelation it says that christians are raptured to meet Jesus in the sky and after they come back to earth with Jesus for the battle of Armaghedon to fight next to Him.

So in the end, they come back to earth and there is indeed just one hope for christians! And yes, some will have privileged positions in the kingdom, but this does not mean that only 144000 are anointed / become new creations.

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Rare Posting, Could you post the Time of the Monthly JW Broadcast where crazy things are said?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

i do not know what it is about the monthly broadcasts that are making me feel they have watered down their message and talk at us like were stupid fools.

they prep each month for these broadcasts, why can't the gb speak on the level, not talking down at us like we are all infants?

the pitch, pace and tone of each monthly talk is weird, so there are many of us who can't handle watching this trash entirely.

paradisebeauty

Another crazy say in on the anual meeting broadcast, at about 2 h and 9 min, a GB member talks about the piramyd next to Russell's grave and about his "hobby" - studying the pyramids.

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Is this doctrine still in in effect?

by WasOnceBlind in

so something i never knew was the fact jw's were taught that jesus is only the mediator for the anointed class and not for everyone.

i only found this out after reading "crisis of conscience" and i was actually pretty shocked to learn so.

if that is the case, when they pray why even bother saying the words "in the name of jesus christ we ask"?

paradisebeauty

If anyone wants to see a quote where they say black on white that Jesus is the mediator only between God and the 144 000, there is a book published in 1986, named The desire for peace and security worldwide (ws) - go to chapter 1 paragraph 16.

If you have the english software, please copy and paste that quote - it is so clear that that is what they truly believe!

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Is this doctrine still in in effect?

by WasOnceBlind in

so something i never knew was the fact jw's were taught that jesus is only the mediator for the anointed class and not for everyone.

i only found this out after reading "crisis of conscience" and i was actually pretty shocked to learn so.

if that is the case, when they pray why even bother saying the words "in the name of jesus christ we ask"?

paradisebeauty

WasOnceBlind

This is still in effect, and this is the main reason that made me research more and understand they are not God's organisation!

This doctrine is a paradox - it is actually their main doctrine but it is also a hidden doctrine. I belive more than 80-90 % of jw's have no idea this doctrine exist.

Why this is a main doctrine: this is the reason why only the annointed ones partake. You can also read in insight at the subject "Mediator".

The last study article from march 2015 watchtower edition, paragraph 7 says:

And we know that Jesus will judge people according to how they have treated the anointed oneswho are still on earth. We are so grateful that Jehovah has helped us over the years to understand this parable and the other parables in Matthew chapters 24 and 25!

So they believe annointed ones are saved by grace, others are saved by works!!!

I believe most jw's have no idea of the implications of this doctrine!

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Interesting resource site

by paradisebeauty in

i dound an interesting site from a christian group that has similar doctrines - but more sound i'd say.

they have free audio books and free podcasts.

if you read / listen, what do you think of them?.

paradisebeauty

I dound an interesting site from a christian group that has similar doctrines - but more sound I'd say

Truthortradition.com

They have free audio books and free podcasts.

If you read / listen, what do you think of them?

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The Great Apocalypse is Coming in July - Here is a Preview

by DT in

trailer for the first book of the sparlock of the multiverse trilogy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvwf1mncog&feature=youtu.be.

here is a recording of the prologue:.

paradisebeauty

Have a website about this book?

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If you were put in charge of the Governing Body tomorrow...

by FusionTheism in

if you were somehow magically put in-charge of the governing body tomorrow, by jesus, with the rules being, you could not teach anything that would be considered outright apostasy and you could not teach anything that would be considered to cause doubt about god's existence... (so as not to arouse suspicion).

what "new light" or "clarified understandings" would you introduce first?.

and which later on?.

paradisebeauty

I would introduce the following new light:

- the "organization" is not the only channel of communication with God. God does not have an organisation on Earth, He deals with individuals not with organizations.

- other christians from other religions will be saved

- all christians are anointed and can have the help / access to the holly spirit

- all partake at commemoration

- there will be a new earth and new heavens

- do not turn a report on preaching

- no shunning

- no judgment for those who want to celebrate a day or not

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W 15 july - members of others religions not destroyed???

by paradisebeauty in

please tell me what do you understand from this quote that is taken from w july 2015, the article your deliverance is close paragraph 5.. i understand that not all members of other religions will be destroyed at armageddon.

i talked to a jw.

he says he understands differently: they will not be destroyed when the babylon the great will be destroyed but they will be destroyed in armageddon.

paradisebeauty

Please tell me what do you understand from this quote that is taken from w july 2015, the article your deliverance is close paragraph 5.

I understand that not all members of other religions will be destroyed at Armageddon.

I talked to a jw. He says he understands differently: they will not be destroyed when the Babylon the great will be destroyed but they will be destroyed in Armageddon.

What do you understand?

Should we conclude, though, that the destruction of the religions of Babylon the Great results in the death of all the former members of those religions? Apparently not. The prophet Zechariah was inspired to write about that time. Speaking of someone who was previously part of false religion, the account states: “He will say, ‘I am no prophet. I am a man cultivating the soil, because a man bought me when I was young.’ And if someone asks him, ‘What are these wounds between your shoulders?’ he will answer, ‘Wounds I received in the house of my friends.’” (Zech. 13:4-6) So, apparently, even some of the clergy will abandon their religious course and deny that they were ever part of those false religions.