Posts by paradisebeauty

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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

by Calebs Airplane in

within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

paradisebeauty

@ Calebs Airplane

You can send the quotes to the commission. They are very nice and answer back to emails, thanking you. .

Here is their email:

[email protected]

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Will the resurrected marry/have children?

by davidmitchell in

i have just finished reading 'brock talon's' two books.

in one of them, entitled journey to god's house, pub.

he comments on how the wt's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children.

paradisebeauty

The GB is bluffing. They get it wrong from the beginning.

The purpose of God in not paradise on this earth, it is the transformation of men into a new creation. This is also the purpose of the 1000 years kingdom - to decide who gets transformed into the new man. Some will be transformed at the beginning of the 1000 years, some at the end, after the last judgement.

Jesus was resurrected as the new man, He was the first one of this new creation. This is the reason why jw's can not explain what happened with Jesus's body, and they came with that explanation of Jesus materializing himself, taking different bodies. They do not get this idea of a new creation and a new man that the letters of the apostles talk about. Jesus talked about this in metaphors and parables, because this was part of the sacred secret revealed after the resurrection of Jesus.

Paul says if the sacred secret would have been known before, the authorities of this world would not have crucified Jesus. The big surprise was that Jesus was resurrected as a new kind of man, immortal and indestructible. This is the way the saved ones will be resurrected. But there will also be resurrection for people who are not yet saved, the unjust, those will be resurrected as normal humans, of flesh and blood, as we are now.

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Is Jackson embarrassed to be a JW?

by Doubting Bro in

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i listened to the majority of jackson's part one testimony and it seems apparent to me that he either:1) is embarrassed to be a jw or 2) doesn't really believe.

i've heard countless times from the platform and in print that we should be proud to be jws and take every opportunity to defend our beliefs.

yet, it seems jackson didn't even want to admit that he believed he was being directly used by jehovah to lead the congregation as his spokesman.

paradisebeauty

@ DB

I have to tell my workmates or school mates at every opportunity my beliefs but Mr. Jackson can't tell a lawyer what his beliefs are?

You are right, minions of jw's have to preach that seven men living in Brooklyn are God's spokesmen on earth, as crazy as this sounds, they have to preach it with all seriousness.

If any jw says they do not believe / are not sure that the GD is God's only channel of communication on earth, they will be immediately disfellowshiped.

And here comes Jackson saying it would be presumptuous to say they are God's spokesmen ...

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Mr Jackson said we would notice if the GB said things outwith the scriptures????

by notsurewheretogo in

in the rc yesterday mr jackson said that if wrong direction was given by the gb, the rank and file would notice it.

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i see plenty of things that the gb say that is not in scriptures but if i say the gb are wrong i'm df....

paradisebeauty

@ StarTrekAngel

the current interpretation of scripture - can't they see how wrong this sounds?

The scripture is the scripture and it does not chance. Unless their doctrine that changes every other month ...

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Mr Jackson said we would notice if the GB said things outwith the scriptures????

by notsurewheretogo in

in the rc yesterday mr jackson said that if wrong direction was given by the gb, the rank and file would notice it.

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i see plenty of things that the gb say that is not in scriptures but if i say the gb are wrong i'm df....

paradisebeauty

Exactly my thoughts. Tell them about things is the Bible they do not take into account or don't believe the way it is written and u get labeled as apostate and disfellowshiped.

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Geoffrey Jackson - Freedome Of Religon Within Jehovah's Witnesses - VIDEO

by C0ntr013r in

a summary for you guys of the rather lengthy discussion about peoples ability to leave the organisation:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpir8vjsdre&feature=youtu.be.

paradisebeauty

Jackson was lying about the inactive, about the shunning and the disfellowshiped and dissasociated people.

He was just trying to confuse the comission who do not know clearly the difference between dissasociation disfellowship and inactive.

Probably only Mr. Steward understood the differences. All others who watch were just further confused on this issue after hearing Jackson.

What a lair and fake, this Jackson ...

He said a few times: that is nut my field ... are u kidding me? The GB field is being masters of other people's faith and conscience.

When asked if they consider themselves the spokespersons for God, jackson says it would be quite presomptuous to say they are spokespersons of God, but they DO say they are the only channel of communication of God on earth

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

paradisebeauty

For the scripture in timothy that says that women can not have authority or teach, here is a more sound explanation of what Paul meant.

http://www.truthortradition.com/articles/the-role-of-women-in-the-church

http://www.truthortradition.com/articles/the-role-of-women-in-the-church-2

And the audio of that post:

http://www.stfpodcast.com/File/mar_apr_1996_role_of_women_pt1.mp3

http://www.stfpodcast.com/File/may_jun_2001_role_of_women.mp3

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10 reasons you should never have a religion

by darth frosty in

jw
friends

10 reasons you should never have a religion.

by steven bancarzjanuary 4, 2015self discovery, spirituality.

written by steve pavlina on his site www.stevepavlina.com |.

paradisebeauty

love this

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Preaching from door to door (music scene) Проповедь от двери к двери (музыкальная сценка)

by oppostate in

an entertainment for international convention delegates.

quite a lot of dancing going on!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1zztq2zle.

paradisebeauty

Faking happiness in jw style

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Can You Really Become Inactive Instead of DA'ing and Keep Your Family

by truth-or-consequences in

oz branch coordinator terrence o'brien opined a number of times at about 1:00:00 until about 1:15:00 of his testimony, that a dub does not need to da, they can become "inactive.".

i sent our beloved angus stewart my personal experience, as well as observations about official borg teachings.

(he replied in short order.).

paradisebeauty

there is high pressure to unofficially shun faders who are known to live a lifestyle that doesn't comply with JW rules.

I'd say they also shun faders who don't do anything that doesn't comply with jw rules.

I am not disfellowshiped but shunned, though the only thing I do different of them is researching the Bible out of more sources of information.