elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .
elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.
me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.
@ nicolau
I am a Christian, this is what Jesus said and this is what I believe. Being a Christian means you become conscious that you need salvation and you admit that you can get it only through Christ.
If you are not a christian, I suppose you do not believe you need any salvation, so there is no judgement for you in my words.
elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .
elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.
me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.
@ Ding
Out of 4 elders I talked to about this, 2 said they did not know that was the official doctrine, and 2 knew it.
From the 2 who knew the doctrine, one said that in 1 timothy 2:5 it's written: Jesus is mediator between God and us, - by us, meaning the anointed ones, since the letter to Timothy was written by Paul.
These people not only do not know the doctrine of their religion, but they also remember Bible verses not the way they are written, but in such a way that they would fit their doctrine ...
elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .
elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.
me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.
@ Rattigan, again
The fact that Jesus is the mediator between God and man is the basis and fundamental idea of Christianity. Without Jesus as a mediator there is no christian faith and NO SALVATION for those who do not have Jesus as a mediator.
Why do the watchtower change this? Who do they think is the mediator for all the other jw's, is it the gov body or the 144000? Or do they think the other jw's don't need a mediator? This even sounds insane, but this is their true doctrine.
It's strange how maybe only about 3% of the jw's know this doctrine. It is a very important doctrine but also a somehow hidden doctrine. Whenever the gov body mentions it in a publication they hide it in complicated phrases, as they would be afraid if they would say it straight forward people would get scared or be shocked, and see that something is wrong with it.
elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .
elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.
me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.
@ Rattigan
And does your believe actually do anything or mean anything?
My believe is the basis of my faith, and I will not accept any religion or organization who says the opposite. The fact that Jesus is my mediator influences the way I live my life now and I am sure it will make influence my eternal future, too.
That is why I really hate the objection above
Why exactly? you are not actually mentioning any reasons why you hate my objection.
The GB can't change God's will.
They can not change God's will but they change the truth of the Bible, like most other religions. And they do this while saying they are the only religion accepted by God. - I find this very disturbing, at least other christian religions do not place a definite judgement on other christian denominations.
elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .
elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.
me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.
Oubliette,
Did he say WHY you should watch that particular program?
I think he was referring to the part of November broadcasting where they speak about inactives ant they advice that they should return to the congregation, did not watch the entire speech about inactives, could not stand it, but I saw they have the image from the new brochure return to Jehovah in the background.
elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .
elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.
me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.
Elder: Plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.
Me: What I hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that Jesus is not the mediator between Jehovah and all jw's but only between Jehovah and the 144000. I believe Jesus is my mediator even if I am not one of the 144000.
Elder: may Jehovah open your mind and heart
Me: May He open everyone's mind and heart
1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
Equal monthly pay to all members of the Bethel community regardless of whether they are BC members or sweepers. This is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
This is totally attainable.The communists did something similar!
first, i'd like to give a big thank you to the anonymous person who provided me the files.
second, if you have the rest of the english videos, or anything else you would like to leak, please pm me.. download links in the descriptions and here.
english:.
what kind of a man wears any other ring than the wedding ring????
So weird!. The gold on his hands draws my attention, can not listen!
These gov body members must be the most self-centered vain smugs ever existed in the gov body. They do not miss a chance to appear on camera, unless, of course, a royal commission calls them. Then they try anything to evade the camera.
A bunch of presumptuous delusional old men.
i realize that rutherford received a flash of light regarding the identity of the gc in the year 1935, but that does not tell us when the crowd began to form.
what would be the earliest date?
any ideas or quotes from wt literature?
what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.
bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.
russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.
Totally agree!!!
People don't realise that one of the prophecies not yet fulfilled about Jesus is that God would give Him the throne of his father David - one of the first things said about Jesus, right before he was born, when Gabriel was announcing his birth.
The small rock that would distroy all other kingdoms is Israel ruled by Jesus.
This is one of the points that jw's get wrong.
