I normally wear Jean-Paul Gautier le male, but after reading this I think I'll have a look round the shops for a bottle of Cacharel Pour Homme.
.I need to find me some "Cacharel Pour Homme"
...there wouldnt be much left of either of you mind....
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what kind of perfume or cologne do you like wearing?.
i wear vanilla lace by victorias secrets..
I normally wear Jean-Paul Gautier le male, but after reading this I think I'll have a look round the shops for a bottle of Cacharel Pour Homme.
.I need to find me some "Cacharel Pour Homme"
...there wouldnt be much left of either of you mind....
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what kind of perfume or cologne do you like wearing?.
i wear vanilla lace by victorias secrets..
I love wearing musks... I cant wear anything 'flowery'-it dosnt seem to smell right on me-has to be a musk with deep rich notes...I love the way musks pulse and get warmer and stronger the hotter you get ..my favourite musk atm has frankinsence in it for de stressing its really warm and sensual.
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what kind of perfume or cologne do you like wearing?.
i wear vanilla lace by victorias secrets..
if a man wears this i'm rendered helpless...
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what kind of perfume or cologne do you like wearing?.
i wear vanilla lace by victorias secrets..
My son buries his face in my neck daily and says I smell ' yummy and biscuity...'...he's 10 and still has his baby smell.mmmmmmm
and If I smell Cacharel pour Homme on a man I will folow him home like a puppy...
i posted this in a thread but perhaps it needs to be on its own so that it doesn't take over the other thread.
most people who have lived in a cult or high control group such as the jws will experience many of the symptoms of complex post-traumatic stress disorder (c-ptsd).. complex post-traumatic stress disorder.
trauma and recovery .
Thankyou Lady Lee. That's obe of the most concise lists ive read, not too painful to read but very accurate.
My memory of the scar on my foot was one that always bothered me. I had physical evidence for it but no idea how it got there. I still don't have the whole memory - no details yet. Just enough to know what caused it and how it was done and by whom.
Cant get out of italics now, sorry...:s .It was only last year that I recognised my ribs wernt symetrical and during councelling I recalled the end of the incedent that led to them being very badly broken ( but not attended to leading to malformation due to fusion) but not the actual act, just the result.Very odd, I'd rather not push for the rest too, it'll come when its ready.I always get upset about it in the summer as i want to wear a bikini but feel self concious so always wear swim suits.
Last year I was obsessed with finding my rapist as he'd been spotted by a friend of mine..but I couldnt find him although I tried for weeks...i'm glad I did'nt..but know it'll keep happening.I wish i knew how to stop that.
I still have a few lost pieces of that jigsaw and don't particularily want to know. I got very upset the day before yesterday as I had to drive my daughter to 'the village it happened in , I havnt been since that night 24 years ago and was physically sick as I drove away.I really thought I could do it.Guess im not as strong as I thought I was.
i'll start this post off by saying i love my wife, she has beautiful qualities and a sweet personality.
however i realize (and i think she does too, though she may not admit it) that since i left the org behind our goals and viewpoints are no longer unified.
as a couple we rarely fight or argue, we still have many of the same values but yet we have some issues that i know will never be fully resolved.
Ah.(((leander))) i;m so sorry.... i've just spent the past two hours telling my husband I can't live with him anymore and having to watch the tears flow and his heart break because of me.
It makes me feel like a total shit and however much I dislike him, I'm a mess lately.
I don't like to upsetting people either, and have added complications of him refusing , again, to leave and we have three children who see me as the villain this week, which is killing me....but you seem to have reached the point of no return in your own mind without those added stresses-you could move out and only have you wife to worry about...I reached my decision it months ago and if I did'nt have children the act of leaving would be so much easier..adults will cope eventually..try living with the sadness of a boy who cries for his father every night on.the occasions we've split up in the past.... I literally have to get up on the hour to comfort him as he's so hysterical... whatever he can be like as a husband; he's a brillian father 99% of the time and taking him from his children will kill him mentally..though staying is killing me.
At the moment i'm feeling like just running;I have an indescribable urge to run away from everything , my husband , house, children , job, friends...and just disappear. the stress is almost too much to bear.I wish everyday he'd just go off me and go..but I know he won't and ultimately it's gonna be down to me.
If you don't have children you could still be a good friend to you wife you could help her, if she'll let you. odd as it sounds it caan work..making the split less sudden and final....you can help her to come to terms with loosing you....by being there for her when she needs support and letting her know you love her as a person.I helped my ex husband when he got really low...feeling left and bereft is the killer....
It can take years to get over someone but your wife may eventually appreciate your honesty and will get over you...
There's so much guilt involved in these situations....and research has now shown that the more break ups we have the more our mental health is affected which suggests we're not getting over them...it's a process of loss and mourning...does she have lots of good friends that will support her?
I agree that people brought up as witnesses need to sometimes 'rediscover' themselves after so many restrictions it's healthy and natural...but very sad for the partner who has'nt reached that stage. I do , incedently,have a few non witness friends who are still with their only partner and theyre very happy........the grass is'nt always greener...
Councelling would be a good start..at least your wife will get a chance to tell someone how she feels which can only do her good, and who knows, she may start to see things differently and leave you first....
Good Luck and lots of love to both of you.xxxx
i'll post a little later about my trip (beacuse i'm still exhausted) but meanwhile let me just post a few random thoughts about some of the folks i met (and apologies, in advance, for anyone that i may inadvertantly miss).. i really didn't get time to speak to any one person for anywhere near as long as i'd have liked, but then i get that the feeling that a lifetime wouldn't be long enough.... first, may i say, i missed the presence of concernedlawyer, czar, czarina, sheila, thunderrider, xw, onacruise and bikerchic (the latter two, of whom, had already intimated that they would be unable to attend).. .
arrowstar.
a real star, this one.
Glad you're back safely LT and you all had such a great time.....that's what I like to hear....no, ' must try harder ' and ' needs improvement '.... just glowing reports all round
was it not a cowardly & devious act of those sons to kill the whole male population of the tribe.. after dinah was taken advantage of, shichem & his own agreed to do the "right" & honorable thing.
& marry dinah, when they agreed to be circumcised like jacob & his family in order to do this..... what did the sons.
of jacob do?
I suppose in that account you have 'proof' of non-consent, so you can take 'lay' to mean rape...but 'lay' is also used in a gentle way in other places in the bible and Dinah's voice is quiet..it was interesting to read about the way social life worked then though-and was written as Dinah was such a maligned figure in the WTBS I thought it offered an alternative view that may have been true....lets hope so for Dinahs sake .
was it not a cowardly & devious act of those sons to kill the whole male population of the tribe.. after dinah was taken advantage of, shichem & his own agreed to do the "right" & honorable thing.
& marry dinah, when they agreed to be circumcised like jacob & his family in order to do this..... what did the sons.
of jacob do?
I hate the account, cant even remember who it was anymore..where a father, rather than allow a homosexual act to take place offers his daughter instead, like a coward, and she gets raped until she dies from her injuries.....I brought that up with a few elders a few times......sickening...
Ah, it's in Judges 22 onwards.....my bible fell open on the page-spooky eh?
' Bring out the man that came into your house that we may have intercourse with him'At that the owner of the house went out to them and said to them, 'No my brothers,do not do anything wrong, please,since this man has come into my house.Do not commit this disgraceful folly.Here are my virgin daughter and my concubine .Let me bring them out please,and you RAPE them,and do to them what is good in your eyes.......but. to this man you must do this disgraceful, foolish thing'
They wer'nt interested, so h took his concubine out to them and left her.... they gang raped her all night, in the morning he found she had fallen at the door and was dead, he cut her in to twelve pieces.....
was it not a cowardly & devious act of those sons to kill the whole male population of the tribe.. after dinah was taken advantage of, shichem & his own agreed to do the "right" & honorable thing.
& marry dinah, when they agreed to be circumcised like jacob & his family in order to do this..... what did the sons.
of jacob do?
I read a book called The Red Tent that's a story based around Dinah written by a jewish historian....although it's fictional, it's very well researched and suggested that Dinah was willing to lie with him and wanted him,that he approached the family to ask permission to marry etc.and a that it was common practice for that area.....It was beautifully written and worth reading as an alternative suggestion as the bible account is very sketchy...