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To Ozziepost: What/Who is Wisdom?

by AGuest in

may you have peace!.

if i may, i would like to expound on and explain to you what... rather, who, 'wisdom' truthfully is.

thank you.. indeed 'wisdom' is my lord, for he is the one produced by my father... out of 'true wisdom', jerusalem above, the wife of my father and mother of my brothers and i, through holy spirit, and therefore by means of that spirit keeps 'calling out' and 'keeps saying come'.. proverbs 8:12, 22. proverbs 9:1. revelation 22:17. he is the one that calls to us... speaks to us... and 'utters truth' in 'low tones'.

AGuest

Please... pay attention to what I SAID:

:>"If you will notice, the word used at 1 Corinthians 3:16 is naos, (with which you agree) denoting a temple, in its entirety (at least, according to MY Greek sources, including Strong's, it does). This also coincides with Ephesians 2:20, 21 (which verse also uses the noun 'naos')"

And 'naos' denotes, and I quote "the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in Christ."

HOWEVER, the word at Revelation 21:22... is 'naON', which denotes, and I quote "the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice (or sanctuary) itself, consisting of the Holy place and the Holy of Holies (in classical Greek it is used of the sanctuary or cell of the temple, where the image of gold was placed which is distinguished from the whole enclosure."

Thus, while John saw the 'city' New Jerusalem, and the 'diving habitation' (or temple) of God, starting Christ as the foundation cornerstone, the apostles as the foundations, and the remainder of my brothers as pillars and stones... he saw no SANCTUARY... or Holy and Most Holy... in the 'temple', for just like PEOPLE made up this temple, PEOPLE, my Father and my Lord... MADE UP THE HOLY AND MOST HOLIES.

With regard to your reference of the word 'heiron', you may be absolutely correct. I do not know. For none of these verses use that word. It would seem to ME, however, that, based on the definition you provide, 'hieron' would denote the PHYSICAL temple, that which existed in Jerusalem on earth... that which was made of sticks and stones and housed within it the Ark of the Covenant with its LAW... written on stone.

The temple referred to by the 'naos', with its sanctuary 'naON', depicts a SPIRITUAL temple, one NOT made with sticks and stones, but with PEOPLE, whose Ark is their HEARTS, and who have the law written NOT on stone tablets... but tablets of FLESH.

I bid you peace, truthfully.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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The "Tree" of WHAT?

by Farkel in

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the account of adam and eve as a literal event is so full of logical contradictions that it is mind-boggling.

it only takes a minimum of scrutiny to discover that fact, too.. there is something god did not want adam and eve to know.

he didnt want them to know the difference between good and evil.

AGuest

Wow, et tu, Daddy-O?

THAT is now your 'argument', that I am not sticking to "DUB issues"? I REALLY thought better of you as a 'reasoner', Farkel... truthfully, I did. I would have NEVER figured YOU to pull out of a debate under such lame pretenses. Tell me, did you even BOTHER to look up the scriptures/verses that YOU asked for?

You know what? Nevermind. If it will make YOU happy, if it will give you back YOUR 'soapbox'... I will leave. No WAY would I want to put a 'cramp' in YOUR style, because I DO think you at least get folks to think. About WHAT is an entirely different subject. But if you can't refute MY arguments, but would rather ask me to leave... then so be it. (Shaking head) I just never figured YOU to be the congregational elder type: 'either AGREE with the organization/FPP/Board or ME... or go somewhere else...'

Amos 7:12
Acts 4:18
Matthew 10:23

And I WILL leave... NOT because of the threat of 'ban', for there is no such threat here. I will leave... because of the love of a friend who can't 'handle' my presence. If I would give my life for you, how could I not leave in peace when... well, you've intimated your desire for me to do so? I am just sorry for the folks here that won't get to know my Lord because of it.

But my love for you remains, D., until time indefinite.

SJ, a slave of Christ... signing off.

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Crossroads, Farkel, et al. re Tree of Knowing Bad.

by AGuest in

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may you all have peace!.

dear crossroads, may i ask how is that we can conclude that the tree of knowledge was not to be used... or even never to be?

indeed, adam and eve were told not to eat of it, but what makes you think all beings were?

AGuest

Hello, Ken P., and may you have peace!

You are absolutely correct, in that if my Lord does not 'arrive' in my lifetime, I WILL die... and my physical flesh... will return to the dust. However, since the flesh 'is of NO use all' (the physical flesh), I am not concerned with what happens to it anyway. It is my SPIRIT that I am trying to get 'saved', dear one. I want THAT... to return to JAH.

John 6:63
Ecclesiastes 12:7
Matthew 10:28

Now, if I am granted the privilege NOT to see death in my physical flesh, to NOT see 'corruption', then, hoo-boy! Cool!

1 Corinthians 15:51
1 Thessalonians 4:17

All depends on which 'generation' this is, whether is it THE 'generation', or it is yet to come. Either way, ALL of my brother, including my Lord, were thought 'mad' and 'delusional' by their respective 'generations', yes? Should I expect different?

Matthew 5:11, 12

But... I bid you nothing but peace!

A slave of Christ,

SJ

May it will... maybe it won't. I have to give it a try, though.

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The "Tree" of WHAT?

by Farkel in

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the account of adam and eve as a literal event is so full of logical contradictions that it is mind-boggling.

it only takes a minimum of scrutiny to discover that fact, too.. there is something god did not want adam and eve to know.

he didnt want them to know the difference between good and evil.

AGuest

Well, Daddy-O, let's take a look (and may you have peace...) (how DO you use html here!?):

You said:

:>Your argument in a nutshell is that the Bible was talking about experiencing good and evil rather than just knowing about them as an un-experienced concept, yes?

Yes.

:>If this argument is true then when God says that the pair has now become one of US with the knowledge of good and evil, then God is stating that not only all of his heavenly creation had personal experience of good and evil, but that God himself had personal experience of good an evil at the time he issued his command to the first pair!

Yep.

:>Yet, he stated those words before any rebellion by Satan or anyone else, according to the Bible itself.

So?

:>There is no mention in the Bible of any evil existing at the time of the creation of man.

No, there isn't... at the time of the creation of 'earthling' man, and with respect to the creation of the physical realm and that which was 'good'. BUT... darkness existed before Light, yes?

Genesis 1:1, 2

Did you notice, however, that while it says that God 'saw the LIGHT was good', it did NOT say that He saw the DARKNESS was good? And that, in fact, He caused a DIVISION between the Light and the Darkness? Now, don't FOOL yourself into thinking that this is speaking about the light and dark and night and day brought on by the sun and moon. For this is the FIRST day, and those 'luminaries' did not come into existence... until the FOURTH day.

No, it is speaking about the TRUE Light, my Lord (John 1:9; 8:12), and the TRUE Darkness, the Adversary (1 John 2:11; 2 Corinthians 4:4).
Did JAH 'know' 'bad', before Adam and Eve? Indeed, He did. Because the 'darkness' existed not only before Adam... but before the Light.

:>So your theory contradicts the Bible. Now, if those little voices you hear say otherwise, fine and dandy, because we are only using the Bible as our reference and most of us don't get ad hoc answers on-the-fly from talking voices. Are you going to concede that for your argument to be true, God and all his angels (or whoever he was talking to at the time of his statement) MUST have already and personally experienced evil themselves?

Of course, they had.

:>If so, how so, and why so?

May I ask you... at what point did Death and Destruction itself come into existence? When Adam ate? How could THAT be? If Death didn't exist BEFORE Adam, then death had to be 'created' AFTER Adam sinned. Yes? But Adam was told BEFORE he sinned that if he ate... he WOULD die. Death, then... BAD... existed.

The 'history' of Adam and Eve is the history of the physical realm, Farkel. If the angels were there BEFORE them, BEFORE the earth and creation of the physical realm, then, too, the DESTROYER... and angel of some type... existed as well, yes? Now, what such one 'destroyed' in the spirit realm is unknown to me. Why? Because, I currently reside in the PHYSICAL realm, and the BIBLE contains the history of THIS realm, and not that one. In addition, every time my brothers and I ASK about death, we are given a serious warning:

"JAH... is the God... of the LIVING. Concern yourself WITH Death... and you will KNOW Death. Concern yourself with LIFE... and you will know Life." (John 14:6)

I only intend to 'eat' from one tree, Farkel. The 'Tree of Life'. The OTHER one, the Tree of Knowledge, holds no lure for me, for it leads to Death. And as they say, "I ain't goin' there".

:>Particularly, why would God let that happen to them and to himself?

Are you asking me to ASK Him? Because right off-hand, I truly do not know. It has not been 'revealed' to me. In fact, as I stated above, whenever we go into the subject of death, destruction, etc., it is like a 'door' closes and we are warned to 'turn back'. We... my brothers and I... have learned to LISTEN... and not 'push the envelope' on the subject of Death, for our understanding is that there is WAY more to it that we really care to know. Most humans, though, don't KNOW that. I personally don't have to get 'burned' to know that the 'stove' my Father has told me is hot... is hot.

But if YOU want to know... keep asking. But, like I said, I'm not going there... further into the knowledge of Death... with you.

:>If not, you'd better be prepared to prove yourself using the Bible.

I gave it my best 'shot'. There are MANY more scriptures, but you can find them yourself by just doing a little cross-referencing. Or... you COULD ask. Again, though, I reiterate the warning given to ME on the subject. Take it... or leave it.

:>Let's look at the other possibility...

Sure, let's.

:>... that is to say: if "knowing" really does mean "experiencing?" First, you have ignored what was really said in the Bible (knowledge)

Which Bible and was it in Hebrew or Greek?

:>... and discussing "knowing," or "to know" even using John 17:3 to make your point. "To know" or "knowing" can mean both understanding conceptually and having a personal experience of a concept.

You are correct. So, then, in order to KNOW what the speaker REALLY meant... one would have to ASK him. Yes? I did. YOU... didn't an haven't. Moving right along...

:>"Knowledge" is most commonly used to mean having an understanding.

True that, but again, you are using the wrong word. It WASN'T 'knowledge'. It was 'know'.

:>Knowledge is mental.

Again, I agree. It is also physical, emotional, psychological... and spiritual. So?

:>Look it up in the dictionary. Neither of my dictionaries even hint that "knowledge" means or implies personal experience.

Well, in addition to what you assert, MY dictionary also says:

"The act, fact or state of knowing (a) acquaintance or familiarity with a fact, place, etc." (and etc. COULD be a person or thing... as well as "sexual intercourse". The latter denotes, then, a man and women KNOWING each other, in the most intimate sense. UNION. Truly, the act of becoming ONE flesh, yes? And does not my Lord say that we become with him and that Father ONE SPIRIT? That we are 'in union' with them, by means of holy spirit? How did Mary get pregnant? Was it not by holy spirit? You've got the wrong 'know', Farkel, I PROMISE you.

And if you want to make a lewd response about spiritual 'sex' here, I have already explained that to Uncle Bruce somewhere around here. I forget where, but I won't explain it again to prevent redunancy. But just so you KNOW that it is YOUR argument that is 'false', the Hebrew word at Genesis 3:5 and 22 is 'yaw-dah', and its definition INCLUDES 'to know... BY EXPERIENCING.' And the GREEK word at John 17:3, which YOU have misunderstood to be 'gnosis' or knowledge of... is actually 'ginosko', which means: 'come to know' AND/OR 'come to be ACQUAINTED with.'

Do I need to elaborate on what it means to make acquaintance with? It would be what you and I did during my day in Ocean Beach. I may not 'know' you WELL... nor you me... but we ARE 'acquainted' now... personally. Aren't we?

:>It COULD mean personal experience, but that is not how it is most-often used.

What does OFTEN have to do with anything? Isn't SOMETIMES enough?

:>If God wanted all of humanity to clearly understand what it was he didn't want Adam and Eve to know/experience, then why would he use a word that was at least ambiguous or at most totally misleading?

Why would YOU use a word like 'ambiguous'? Maybe cause it sounds good to YOU? Or maybe because IT'S THE RIGHT WORD TO DESCRIBE WHAT YOU MEANT. Can you help it, though, if someone ELSE doesn't get it? Can you personally make contact with everyone who wouldn't and explain it? WOULD you? Or would you expect them to either break out their dictionary and look it up... or ASK SOMEONE? No difference, Farkel: you got Bibles, dictionaries, lexicons... and my Lord. Between those FOUR... YOU should have figured out the correct meaning of the word. I did. And I'm a dingbat.

:>He could have said the "tree of the experience of Good and Evil," but he didn't say that. YOU said that.

And YOU could have said 'unclear', but you didn't. I did.

And again, your 'argument' falls apart... because of your MISassumption of what is meant by the word 'know'... and I must say that I am quite surprised at your failure to even research the matter properly before bringing this 'debate'.

:>No it doesn't.

Yes, it does.

:>Yours does.

No, it doesn't.

But, as always... I got NUTHIN' but love for 'ya! You KNOW this is truth.

Peace!

Your servant and friend, still... and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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Resurrection... to what TYPE of body?

by AGuest in

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may you all have peace!.

there is a bit of a debate about the resurrection, and to what type of body people will be resurrected to.

it is quite simple, and encompasses two resurrections: the 'first' resurrection... and the general resurrection.. 1. the 'first' resurrection -.

AGuest

Dearest Mark (Crossroads)... may you have peace!

I am a 'she', my name is Shelby (most folks here already know that), I am 41 years old, I have met a few of the folks here personally, I am not the only one who 'hears' by any means, and I am NOT 'connected' to the imposters in Brooklyn (indeed, they wouldn't have me and their local henchmen intimated that I was too young and too Black to be 'anointed', and said that I just read my Bible too much. I am speaking truth to you. Although, Barber DID try to say at first that I was 'dancin' with demons,' but eventually it was he that was silenced... and exposed. Part of me feels sorry for him; part of me doesn't.)

Now, where were we. Yes, you wanted to know:

"... how do you get to this peaceful place that gives you all this insight that none of us others seem to have..."

First, let me restate that there ARE others that have it. Some post here and other forums; some have other 'territories', if I can use that terminology (okay, okay, I'm SORRY... but I thought it would help you understand...). Some, while putting FAITH in him, though, will not PROFESS him, because of their 'fear of the Pharisees'.

My personal 'story' is that when I received the promised holy spirit, one of the 'gifts' of that spirit was 'discernment of inspired utterances'... or hearing spirits. I had heard them for most of my life (and believe it or not, you have, too), but I had been TAUGHT they what I heard was everything BUT my Lord... including myself. Rather than being taught to LISTEN to the voice, I was taught... by religion, and pretty much mankind in general... NOT to listen. And so, I didn't, not really. I mean, I heard... but I did not always listen and certainly did not 'attribute' the voice to anything spiritual.

At least, not until I ASKED... and received what I asked for. See, after many, many years of being in the 'org', and passing the bread and wine by (and living with a BAD conscience for doing so, almost a self-loathing), I decided that I could not do that anymore, and so, one year, I ate... and drank... in faith. I knew I was SUPPOSED to, no matter what OTHERS thought or said. And they SAID... a lot. Oh, well.

Shortly after that, I started having other BAD conscience experiences in that I felt like, "Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah... all we ever talk about is Jehovah. Where really is Jesus in all of this?" I mean, we DID bring him up from time to time, but for some reason I felt embarrassed that we didn't do it more often. I felt... ashamed and 'wrong', I guess.

A few weeks after that, I heard two distinct voices and REALLY though demons were playing games with me. So, I ignored them. OF COURSE! But, they persisted, and after awhile I heard one of the voices say... and had this OVERWHELMING URGE... "why not answer?" This went on for a bit, them speaking, me ignoring, one saying "why not answer?", until I finally gave in and decided to 'go for it', and said, "Alright, who is this please?"

One voice said, "I am Jehovah" (I have since learned why that name was used and what the TRUE name of my Father is), and the other said, "I am the Christ." So, okay, demons playing tricks. I decided I wasn't playing. But, they persisted, and I ask again who it was and got the same answer. I decided to go a little further and said, "Okay, IF your Jehovah, can I talk to you?" and immediately one 'presence' disappeared, just like that, but the other one said, "No one comes to the Father except through me." And, of course, I then asked, "And so, WHO are YOU?" And 'he' said, "I am the Christ."

I asked him how I would know that he was not a demon (remember, we had been TRAINED to 'fear' demons... although NO ONE in the Bible feared them... things that make you go 'hmmmmm'...), and he said that while the Adversary could transform himself into an ANGEL of Light, he could NOT transform himself into the LIGHT (John 8:12), nor could he imitate the Father. And so, a conversation ensued. I then asked him WHY he was there, speaking to ME. And he said that I had ASKED for him... and the Father had SENT him.

I told him that I had NOT asked for him, and he immediately took me back to a point about three weeks earlier, when I was sitting in the Kingdom Hall, saying a prayer to 'Jehovah', telling Him that I was bothered that I didn't know Jesus more (I mean, the man had DIED for me, right? And was my 'leader' and 'mediator'. For some reason, I HAD to know him... or at least know OF him... to a greater extent.) I could see myself and the others, just as we were, and I heard myself say, "Father, if Jesus IS my Lord, please let me KNOW him."

And he said that THAT was why he was there, that I had ASKED for him, and in response, the Father had SENT him. I asked him if I could ask him questions (are you kidding, wouldn't YOU?), and he said, "You can ask me ANYTHING..." And the rest is history.

And YOU... and all others... can do the same thing, ASK... and RECEIVE. There are only three (3) (sorry, if you caught this before the edit - I DID say I was a 'dingbat' and I guess not being able to count to three proves that, eh?) requirements:

1. That you ask IN FAITH... NOT DOUBTING... KNOWING that he WILL answer you;

2. That you ask OUT OF A CLEAN HEART, because you want to KNOW him and NOT because you want to be special or have something proven to you and allow you to prove to others; your 'motive' MUST be 'pure';

3. And that you LISTEN to what you hear... put FAITH in it... and OBEY if it is a directive. What KIND of 'directive'? Well, he MAY say to you, "Crossroads (Mark), you know, you're not really all that 'clean' inside. You do this and think that and have done this." Do you immediately STOP listening? Or do you say, "Please forgive me, help me fix it, make in me a clean and steadfast heart... AND TELL ME MORE SO THAT I CAN BE 'REFINED'...?

He may tell you things to say to others, but I PROMISE you, he will start with YOU. YOU... must 'come into the light' to have YOUR 'works reproved'. For it is only then that you are clean enough to 'carry the utensils of JAH.'

When I asked my Lord why ME, why he had come to and spoken to ME, he said that it was because I had faith... 'the size of a mustard seed', which initially REALLY saddened me. Because I thought, if I have only that much faith... where in the WORLD is the faith of everyone else? Because I really wasn't that 'faithful'. After a few months, he let me know that I didn't HAVE such faith on my own... he had GIVEN me faith... the size of a mustard seed... so that I COULD hear him.

You can do it, Mark. ANYONE can. That is what my Lord MEANT when he said, 'Come to ME... all you who are toiling and loaded down...", when he said, "Anyone that is thirsty, let him come to ME and drink...". It is what he meant when he said:

"You are searching the scriptures, because you THINK
that by means of THEM you will have life. But these
are the very ones that bear witness about ME... and
yet... YOU DO NOT WANT TO COME TO ME... that you may
have life."

John 5:39, 40

And so, he has not be NOT to put my trust in earthling man nor in the law written on stone tablets. He has taught me instead, to refer to the law written on my heart... where HE wrote it... in indelible ink... and to come to HIM... and through HIM... approach the Father. I have been before the throne of my Father, before the Ark of the Covenant, seen the 24 elders and touched the glassy sea. I have seen the Ark in its TRUE glory... and I have seen what spirit creatures REALLY look like... without the 'long garment of skin' that WE have, which Adam sold us into.

I have been barred from seeing nothing and hearing nothing, for all things that the Father has told the Son, the Son has condescended to tell me and keeps telling me. And yet, I am nothing. I am not better than ANY of earthling man, indeed, by means of my Father's will and that of my Lords', I am a SERVANT... to all mankind, starting with the Household of God, Israel. And it is to Israel and those who 'go with' them that I must speak and share what I myself 'receive'. I received it free; I must give it free.

Therefore, what my Lord utters to me in 'low tones', what he 'whispers' into my ear, I must shout... from the housetops even... no matter what the 'threat'. (Matthew 10:26-28). And I do, every chance I get, because I love them: I love my Lord, the Son of God, JAHESHUA (JAH saves) MISCHAJAH (messiah; chosen of JAH). I love my Father, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES. And I love all those that they love... ALL of the world... Israel AND the nations.

Unfortunately, all... don't love them. Israel... OR the nations.

I bid you peace, and I remain,

YOUR servant, and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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Resurrection... to what TYPE of body?

by AGuest in

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friends

may you all have peace!.

there is a bit of a debate about the resurrection, and to what type of body people will be resurrected to.

it is quite simple, and encompasses two resurrections: the 'first' resurrection... and the general resurrection.. 1. the 'first' resurrection -.

AGuest

Hey, Daddy-O... and may you have peace!

Farkel, I can't PUT all of the scriptures and verses because sometimes there just isn't enought TIME. I have given you the information... can't YOU look up the scriptures and verses? It should be easy, especially if you have a concordance, and even easier if you simply ask my Lord.

But, with regard to the resurrection, when, what kind of body, etc., etc., etc... let me start you off with:

1 Corinthians 15:20-57
1 Thessalonians 4:15-18
Revelation 20:7, 11-15
Matthew 17:1, 2
Genesis 3:22-24
John 10:9
Genesis 28:12
Job 1:7
Revelation 21:12, 26, 27
Matthew 22:11-13

Why don't you... and others... 'get it', Daddy-0? Besides your lack of faith, the words at Matthew 13:9-15 should shed a little more 'light' on the subject for you. Don't gnash your teeth TOO hard, now. You know the older we get, the more detrimental it is to us to do that - BIG KISS!

Love to you, dear one... and peace... ALWAYS!

Your servant, friend and a slave of Christ.

(Re: the good/evil thing, can you ask your questions one more time, please? PLEASE? Because I REALLY thought I had, but you're saying I didn't, so perhaps you should 'break it down' a bit for THIS 'dummy'. Thank you kindly.)

SJ

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Resurrection... to what TYPE of body?

by AGuest in

jw
friends

may you all have peace!.

there is a bit of a debate about the resurrection, and to what type of body people will be resurrected to.

it is quite simple, and encompasses two resurrections: the 'first' resurrection... and the general resurrection.. 1. the 'first' resurrection -.

AGuest

Dearest Agape... may you have peace!

You are correct, dear one, not in judging, but in your observation, and I thank you sincerely for it. However, I would beg you not to consider such ones under too harsh a light, for their only 'flaw' is a lack of faith. Other than that, these are some of THE most loving folks you will find on earth. They have been severely misled by an organization claiming to be the 'truth', and so are understandably cautious as to who... and what... the 'listen' to. Indeed, I would be also.

It is we who possess the spirit of God, or those that 'go with' us, who are obligated to be patient, kind and loving towards them... and not them towards us... for it is we are under the 'law' of love. And it is by this, OUR 'fruits', that such ones will 'know' us, contrary to the 'fruits' displayed by those who CLAIM to 'belong' to God, having a FORM of godly devotion, but proving false to its power.

It was difficult at first, and I came to understood the heart of Jeremiah when he said to my Father, "You have tricked me" and then resolved not to speak again. But, as with him, the 'fire' burning in my bones is too great... I cannot keep silent. Therefore, I asked for and received a 'forehead hard as flint' (my Lord KNOWS I need it to do his 'will'), and well as an understanding heart along with wisdom.

And so, while some may chide and debate and ridicule, some are also doing what was foretold they would be doing, along with what they SHOULD be doing: testing the inspired expression and demanding of me a reason for my faith.

I DO wish they would do it in love, however, for I have nothing but love for them, and also in that way, at least they are 'covered' while trying to 'get to the bottom' of things. For love 'covers' a multitude of transgressions. And we are ALL transgressors. But any true man of God should not feel threatened by questions of reasoning, because 'interpretations belong to God' anyway. And He WILL answer, if such one does in fact 'belong' to Him by means of Christ, ASKS by means of Christ, and gives the glory TO Him and Christ.

So, thank you MOST sincerely, for YOUR love. I will treasure it always and I WILL remember you before my Father when I come into my inheritance. In the meantime, may the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, JAH OF ARMIES, and the peace of His Christ, His Son and my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, come to be upon you... and your entire household... until time indefinite.

I am...

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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To Ozziepost: What/Who is Wisdom?

by AGuest in

may you have peace!.

if i may, i would like to expound on and explain to you what... rather, who, 'wisdom' truthfully is.

thank you.. indeed 'wisdom' is my lord, for he is the one produced by my father... out of 'true wisdom', jerusalem above, the wife of my father and mother of my brothers and i, through holy spirit, and therefore by means of that spirit keeps 'calling out' and 'keeps saying come'.. proverbs 8:12, 22. proverbs 9:1. revelation 22:17. he is the one that calls to us... speaks to us... and 'utters truth' in 'low tones'.

AGuest

nim/it was a duplicate.

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To Ozziepost: What/Who is Wisdom?

by AGuest in

may you have peace!.

if i may, i would like to expound on and explain to you what... rather, who, 'wisdom' truthfully is.

thank you.. indeed 'wisdom' is my lord, for he is the one produced by my father... out of 'true wisdom', jerusalem above, the wife of my father and mother of my brothers and i, through holy spirit, and therefore by means of that spirit keeps 'calling out' and 'keeps saying come'.. proverbs 8:12, 22. proverbs 9:1. revelation 22:17. he is the one that calls to us... speaks to us... and 'utters truth' in 'low tones'.

AGuest

Dear Pom... may you have peace!

If you will notice, the word used at 1 Corinthians 3:16 is naos, denoting a temple, in its entirety. This also coincides with Ephesians 2:20, 21.

But another form of naos, naON, is used at Revelation 21:22, and denotes the SANCTUARY of the temple... the Holy and Most Holy... and indeed, there will be no Holy or Most Holy in the City of New Jerusalem, for there will be no Holy or Most Holy in the 'temple'.

For God and Christ, the Lamb, are the Most Holy and Holy, respectively.

Peace to you!

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Resurrection... to what TYPE of body?

by AGuest in

jw
friends

may you all have peace!.

there is a bit of a debate about the resurrection, and to what type of body people will be resurrected to.

it is quite simple, and encompasses two resurrections: the 'first' resurrection... and the general resurrection.. 1. the 'first' resurrection -.

AGuest

Actually, Cross, I don't drink. And I don't do coffee that often either. Don't smoke... anything... anymore, and haven't since 1985. I know you don't understand, but well, how could you?

Sorry.

A slave of Christ,

SJ