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Rev. 19:1

by mpatrick in

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i was wondering how revelation 19:1 is explained .

"after this i heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven ....... how do jw's explain this since they teach the great crowd is going to be on the earth.

AGuest

Hello, URN-Idjit... and may you have peace!

May I try to explain it this way? Thank you:

1. A 'man' (JAH) had some 'special' sheep, two of them (Adam and Eve). These sheep were PUREBRED blackfaced sheep (hey, I don't know the breed, okay?). God gave the sheep the BEST clover to eat and told the sheep, 'Don't eat from that thistle bush over there... or you'll choke... and die.'

2. A 'wicked man' (Satan) came along and told the sheep, 'You won't die. God knows that THAT thistle, tastes WAY better than that old clover you're eating. AND... if you eat the thistle... YOU'LL BE LIKE GOD. Hey, you can be your OWN shepherd and you won't NEED God to tell youse what 'ta eat!" And so, they ate. You know the rest of this part...

3. The original pair of sheep were allowed to produce MORE blackfaced sheep (Hebrews first, then Israelites - okay, so I skipped a few generations...). Only these sheep weren't completely 'pure'. They were... uh, say, 'octaroon' (1/8th blackface, but not quite 'mutts'... well, not yet.). That's because their 'blood' was now changed from PURE blood, to, uh, inter-sheep-ial (sorry, but that's all I could think of...) blood. But... they were STILL very valuable sheep.

4. Although the NEW blackfaced sheep (Israel) weren't PUREBRED, they were VERY close to it (not interbred with the 'nations'). So, the 'man' (God) separated these sheep out from all other sheep (circumcision) and kept them in a special pen (the Law Covenant).

5. Certain 'other' sheep (non-Israelites/'nations'), saw the special treatment the black-faced sheep got, and the strength and love of their shepherd, wanted some of that sweet clover... and decided to 'join' that flock. But before they could, the 'other' sheep had to be 'sheared' (circumcised, too) and enter into the special pen (Law Covenant). THESE sheep were permitted to interbreed with the black-faced sheep... but no other sheep were. That's because these 'other' sheep SAID that they were agreeable to staying in the pen... and eating sweet clover. They also SAID had no problem staying away from sheep NOT in the pen... and other wild and 'unclean' domestic animals. And so, in time, this first group of 'other sheep' became so inbred with the blackfaced sheep, that you could no longer tell them apart.

6. But, together, these sheep were, uh... baaaaaa-aaaad. They kept getting out of the pen, running around, uh, 'interbreeding' with other sheep that were not of the ones that they were permitted to interbreed with. Not ALL of the them, but MOST of them. There were a few sheep that were fine staying in the pen, eating sweet clover.

7. THEN, the baaaaa-aaad sheep got SO bad, they even started interbreeding with GOATS, until after awhile, some became 'sheep-goats', and some almost not sheep at all, but PURE goat! And THEN... they started attacking the sheep-sheep, the ones that had NO problem eating sweet clover, and trying to get THEM to run around and do 'unsheeplike' stuff. Stuff like... eating cans... and head-butting just to be mean!

8. After awhile, the man (God), decided to he was tired of those baaaa-aaad sheep. Heck, they didn't even LOOK like sheep anymore, but like, well, 'wild beasts' almost. Where was his beautiful, cared for, DOMESTICATED sheep? They had intermingled SO much, they were no longer recognizable from many of the other ordinary run of the mill farm animals. Some had even intermingled with PIGS... and taken to rolling in the MUD! Some of the 'man's' once clean and well-cared for sheep were... FILTHY! Some of them, while they WEREN'T wild beasts, but domestic farm animals, certainly didn't even LOOK like sheep! Heck, maybe they WEREN'T sheep anymore: didn't look like sheep; didn't smell like sheep; didn't ACT like sheep. By now, the 'man' wanted simply to just, well, BARBEQUE them all! I mean, he was, after all, a SHEEP-herder! Not a swine-monger!

10. But... every time the man started to warm up the Weber, the 'sheep' would start crying and bleating and saying... "Weeeerrrree ssooorrrryyy! We ARE baaaaa-aaaad sheep! But we're YOU'RE sheeeeeppp!" And, indeed, he LOVED his sheep (as he stood there scratching his head trying to tell which ones WERE sheep...)

11. Someone else loved the sheep, too. The 'man's' son. For he had spent his childhood out in the field playing with and helping his Father shepherd the sheep. He had WATCHED the sheep grow... and had watched them change. He had tried to warn the sheep for his father, but... they had spent just TOO much time around the 'goats'. So, they became STUBBORN... and wouldn't listen to him. But... he loved them.

12. So, the son talked the father out of barbequing the sheep and said, "Let ME have them, Father! I will tame them again. Let me go out into the field one last time." The Father, knowing that the sheep had seriously changed, but knowing his love... and his son's love... said, "Okay. I'll give those sheep one last chance. You TAME them... I'll keep them. Their YOURS." (Lord KNOWS they had come close to being barbequed on SEVERAL occasions. In fact, some of them HAD actually found themselves on a skewer from time to time! Didn't need no 'sauce', either!)

13. And so, the son went out into the field. "Look, sheep," he said. "You guys are REAL close to being sold at the market. In fact, Dad was JUST talking about having some friends over for a 'feast'. He even pulled out the Weber... and you know what THAT means! Now, look, I know it's been hard for you guys being isolated from all of the OTHER SHEEP out there, and so, maybe you felt you HAD to intermingling with these 'unclean' farm animals. But, GOOD NEWS! My father has given you over to ME... and I am building a NEW pen (New Covenant)... and I have OTHER SHEEP that will come into this pen! Yep, ALL kinds of sheep are welcome! Black-face, brown-face, Jew-face, Greek-face, free-face, slave-face, TWO-faced... I don't care. As long as you let ME shepherd you, you can be in my 'pen'.

14. But instead of getting the POINT... those baaaaa-aaad sheep got REALLY 'wild'. You see, they had AGAIN got out of their pen (the Law Covenant), and while the son was on his way out the field, those bad sheep went from mingling with goats and swine to... MINGLING WITH WOLVES! Ooooh! And so, when they saw the son coming, well, the 'good', sheep went hopping, skipping out to meet him (well, he just MIGHT have some carrots in his pockets - uh, do sheep eat carrots?). But when he got to the pen, the BAAAAAAA-AAAD sheep... ATTACKED the son! Having learned some 'bad habits' from the WOLVES... they grabbed him by his garments... dragged him through the field... hung him on the fence... and KILLED him! Wild animals, all!

15. Right before he died, though, the son BEGGED his father not to hold this bad thing against those sheep.

16. And as a result of the SON'S love for ALL sheep... the 'good' sheep... as well as all of the OTHER SHEEP... get to go into the new 'pen' (NEW Covenant). This NEW pen, however, is built... RIGHT IN THE MAN'S HOUSE! No more sleepin' in the field! No more shiverin' at night as wolves circle the pen smackin' their chops, lickin' their lips, look for a good piece 'o mutton to gnaw on! No more pullin' together piles of scratchy hay to lie down on! Oh, no! The sheep NOW get soft cushy pillows to 'recline' on! They can eat AT THE TABLE... WITH the man and his son!

17. AND... eventually... even the 'baaaaaa-aad' black-faced sheep, are allowed to come into THIS pen. That's because while the man WAS tired of them... he is also QUITE merciful... and MUCH more loving than those bad sheep. For where do you think the SON learned it?

How's that, URN-Idgit? I tried to break it down as SIMPLY as I could. Let me know if you need it a little more 'elementary' than that.

Peace to you!

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Rev. 19:1

by mpatrick in

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friends

i was wondering how revelation 19:1 is explained .

"after this i heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven ....... how do jw's explain this since they teach the great crowd is going to be on the earth.

AGuest

Specifically, in what way, Fred?

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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H2O and all that ...PLEASE READ!!!!!

by Jang in

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folks, i know some of you feel a little peeved with the old h2o but i don't think you have been fair to the new one.

there is and will be a different attitude there and i have been assured of this by both rick and fd2.

i would like to encourage everyone here to cross post on h2o in the various forums .... let's make as many places as we can available for those who need support and questions answered .... theo nly wat to do that is let your past animosities go and think of those coming behind you.. if you have problems there then there is a forum you can post your complaints to and suggestiosn on what needs changing ... i just feel with the number of people here who could help those who come into h2o (and tishies board0 that we need to reach out a little more ..... go over and try it out folks and support others there too .......... http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=311102.

AGuest

TINA! Sista-girl!

It is So GOOD to hear from ya, truthfully! Thank you for thinking of me, dear one. I hope all is well with you... and your household, including Mom and Son. And, as always, I wish you the utmost of love and peace!

I remain... your servant...

Shel

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Rev. 19:1

by mpatrick in

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i was wondering how revelation 19:1 is explained .

"after this i heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven ....... how do jw's explain this since they teach the great crowd is going to be on the earth.

AGuest

Hello, mpatrick, and may you have peace!

Actually, the 'FDS' has lied to you, in an attempte to 'mislead' you... as they attempt to mislead ALL of the 'chosen' ones.

Matthew 24:24

Here's the TRUTH:

The WTBTS teaches that only a small number, 144,000... will go to heaven. That is a lie. The 144,000, represent the 'little flock'... or HOLY ONES... Israel. This INCLUDES... all 12 tribes of Israel... INCLUDING the Jews... (Judah AND Benjamin)... and excluding Dan (which tribe gave up their share in the wilderness outside of Jericho/Canaan, and it was given to Joseph - Manasseh)

Revelation 7:4-8

John saw the 144,000... from 'the sons of ISRAEL' (and NOT just the Jews)... SEALED. What did this 'sealing' mean and why the 144,000? Because... God had made a PROMISE... to ABRAHAM... that would include HIS 'seed'. BUT... that 'seed'... BLEW it! They LEFT THE COVENANT entered with ALL of Israel at Sinai:

1. All of Israel initially left that covenant when they DEMANDED a king, 'like the nations' around them. By doing so, they REJECTED JAH as their king. However, as long as the king himself held to the law, my Father held Israel as still being UNDER that law.

2. After the death of Solomon, Israel broke into two factions: the 10-tribe kingdom of Israel (the Samaritans), and the 2-tribe kingdom of JUDAH (the Jews, which included Judah and Benjamin). And ENMITY began between these two that exists to this day: the Jews (kingdom of Judah, tribes of Judah and Benjamin, today known as the Nation/State of Israel)... and the Arabs (the 10-tribe kingdom of Israel, the Samaritans, known today as the "Palenstinians").

3. When the nation split, the 10-tribe kingdom of Israel LEFT off worship at the temple. My Father allowed them to be captured by the Assyrians and they, ISRAEL (the "Samaritans") were exiled into Samaria and set up false worship at their capital there, BETHEL, under Jeroboam. And rather than stick to the arrangement made by JAH, Jeroboam began taking priests from AMONG THE PEOPLE, whomever he WISHED, and installed them as priests. As a result, some of the Levitical priests LEFT Israel... joined up with JUDAH... and served in the temple at Jerusalem. Israel (the Samaritans) were then referred to as "Oholah".

4. THEN, the 2-tribe kingdom (Judah), left, too! They would
'come and go' in their pure worship, depending on the king. Some were 'good' kings; some were 'bad' kings. When they finally left entirely (except for a 'remnant'), they were referred to as "Oholibah". Their priests began doing obscene things in the temple and oppressing the people. Their king, Rehoboam, was told to LIFT the load on the people. But... he only pushed them harder. As kings came and went, Judah became worse. Finally, under the reign of Zedekiah, who sought help from the nations rather that from my Father, Judah's TRUE king, my Father allowed the BABYLONIANS to come against Judah, who were then exiled into Babylon. It was NOT all of Israel who were exiled into Babylon... ONLY the 2-tribe kingdom of Judah (the Jews).

5. When my Lord arrived on earth in the flesh, he brought TWO great 'sacred secrets':

a. That he would REMOVED the 'fence' that separated Israel and Judah, and the two would once again become ONE - Ephesians 2:14

b. And that for Israel who did NOT 'return' to JAH, their place in the kingdom of God would be given... TO THE NATIONS. That is why although the 12 apostles were apostles to the JEWS... PAUL... was an 'apostle to the NATIONS'.

6. Unfortunately, rather than accepting my Lord as Israel's 'messiah', ISRAEL... the Jews AND the Samaritans... approved of his execution. As a RESULT... MANY 'seats' in the kingdom, that would have been occupied by Israel... were lost... and given to the NATIONS. Which fulfilled my Lord's pre-arrangement to INCLUDE the nations. Rather than be like Israel, who HAD the Law written in STONE, but failed to live by it, the many of the NATIONS showed themselves to have the Law written on their HEARTS, for they treated one another right. Israel, rather than using the Law to see their OWN error and where THEY were sinners individually, used it to judge and condemn.

7. The small group of Israelites (Jews AND Samaritans) that accepted my Lord, were referred to as the 'little flock'. THESE... are the 'holy ones', holy be means of being Abraham's 'seed'... and thus, those who were 'blessed' by my Father.

8. The OTHER 'sheep', are those of the NATIONS, who WITH Israel (the Jews AND the Samaritans)... become ONE 'flock'... with one shepherd.

9. So... John FIRST saw 144,000 from 'the sons of ISRAEL'... which number had been 'sealed'. My Father's promise to Abraham had been GUARANTEED. But AFTERWARD, John saw a 'great crowd'... which NO man was able to number, out of EVERY nation, tribe, tongue and people, INCLUDING those of fleshly Israel who were not counted among those sealed. And he saw this group... STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD... WEARING WHITE ROBES... and RENDERING SACRED SERVICE IN HIS TEMPLE. Only... PRIESTS... can render sacred service in the temple, dear one.

All of this has its PROOF in the words of Revelation 5:9, 10.

The WTBTS has MISLED folks into believing the that 144,000 are made of Israel and the nations; it is not. Revelation 7:4 SAYS who make up this group. They would also have you believe that the 'great crowd' are NOT in heaven, do not GO to heaven, and are not a part of the priestly/kingly arrangement of my Father and my Lord. Again, they are in error and those who believe this... have been misled.

Revelation 19:1 SAYS that John heard the voice as that of a great crowd in heaven... because the great crowd WAS in heaven! These are the ones that rule WITH 'the holy ones', the ones to whom Paul addressed his letters 'to the holy ones... AND faithful ones/brothers... IN UNION with Christ.' They are NOT the 'holy ones'... but are FELLOW CITIZENS of the holy ones... and together WITH them... are being built up into a PLACE for God to occupy with His Spirit. That 'place', indeed ANY place that holds the spirit of God... is called a 'TEMPLE'!

Ephesians 2:19-21
1 Corinthians 3:16
1 Corinthians 1:1
Ephesians 1:1
Colossians 1:1

The apostles were Jews, Israelites, as was Cornelius. He was an Israelite, and therefore a BROTHER of the Jews, by means of being a SAMARITAN. He was an officer in the Roman Army, assigned to his home province of Caesarea... SAMARIA. The woman at the well, a Samaritan also, was also a 'brother' of my Lord. That is why she SAID to my Lord, when questioning the place of worship... "OUR forefathers (meaning his AND hers)... USED to worship in this mountain. But YOU people (meaning the Jews) say that we must worship at the temple (after Jeroboam, the Samaritans no longer worshipped in Jerusalem, but in the mountains of Samaria, at Bethel)."

It was then that my Lord said to her that the day would come when those worshipping the Father would do it neither in the mountains, in Jerusalem... or at the temple. For such ones would WORSHIP the Father... IN SPIRIT... and in the TRUTH (John 8:32; 14:6; 8:36).

It is when ALL of the nations have 'come in'... when that 'number', which NO man knows... is FULL... that my Father will once again turn his attention to ISRAEL... the fleshly seed of Abraham. And at THAT time... ALL of Israel will be allowed BACK in... and saved.

Romans Chapter 11

Indeed, some of Israel were 'grafted OUT', so that the nations COULD be 'brought in'. But my Father will NOT forget Israel forever. For He made a PROMISE to Abraham... and that promise WILL be fulfilled... entirely... for my Father, JAH OF ARMIES... 'cannot lie'. Just as it came forth from His mouth to Abraham, so it will be.

The State of Israel today, along with Palestine, are fighting a futile war. The State of Israel IS occupying land granted to the Palestinians/Arabs by my Father. HOWEVER... none of this has ANYTHING to do with the kingdom of my Lord, for my Lord's kingdom... is NO part of THIS world! The TRUE 'restoration' of Israel... will take place in THAT kingdom, the kingdom 'of the Son of His Love'... New Jerusalem. That is the 'house' of my Father, and the residing place of my Lord. That is where his 'table' is situated... and it is where Israel... AND those of the 'nations' CHOSEN to BE Israel... will 'recline'... with Abraham and Isaac.

I, myself, SJ, have related to you this TRUTH, just as I heard it from my Lord. I bid you peace, and I am...

Your servant, as I am servant to ALL of the Household of God, Israel, and those who 'go with' them... and a slave of Christ.

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H2O and all that ...PLEASE READ!!!!!

by Jang in

jw
friends

folks, i know some of you feel a little peeved with the old h2o but i don't think you have been fair to the new one.

there is and will be a different attitude there and i have been assured of this by both rick and fd2.

i would like to encourage everyone here to cross post on h2o in the various forums .... let's make as many places as we can available for those who need support and questions answered .... theo nly wat to do that is let your past animosities go and think of those coming behind you.. if you have problems there then there is a forum you can post your complaints to and suggestiosn on what needs changing ... i just feel with the number of people here who could help those who come into h2o (and tishies board0 that we need to reach out a little more ..... go over and try it out folks and support others there too .......... http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=311102.

AGuest

Hello, dear 'hopeful'... and may you have peace!

You want a reply from H20, eh? JanG said she was gonna get one... but... ah, well... I told her to fagetabowtit. Actually, please, don't worry about it any longer. I am quite okay. Even if I am 'removed' from here at some point, I will be okay. As I told FD2, Rick, JanG, Mod2, Tommy, Tucker... and every other little... 'lollipop'... on H20... it will only allow ME... to get back to MY life (yes, I have one! Not a BIG one, but a fairly decent one all the same...)

Kismet, dahling, honey, please know that Rick DID send me an invitation to return to H20. What he did NOT do... is specify that certain forums were off limits. (Geesh! Rick is SUCH a coward... getting that man to speak the TRUTH is harder than getting the WTBTS to admit that they are the false 'christs' that they are!)

But I was so SURPRISED that I was even being ASKED back... that I didn't ASK 'which forum I was ALLOWED to post on.' Heck, I didn't even consider it. Not being too familiar with this type of forum (Jw.com and the NEW H20), I simply copied a post I had made here... and responded to JUSTAMOM. Although I deleted MY post... why don't you just ASK Rick to post what he sent me? DUH!

But, now, Kismet, honey, here I am over HERE... and here YOU are... over HERE... 'chiding' me. Tell me, why is that? I am not 'violating' your precious FPP, I am not posting in the 'wrong' forum on your precious H20. I 'went away', just as YOU requested. What's up? You need someone to follow? Honey, I am NOT him! If you want to FOLLOW someone... follow the Lamb... wherever HE goes, okay? 'Cause I can't do NUTHIN' for ya!

(rachafracharachafracha H20 moderators... can't live WITH me... can't live WITHOUT me...)

Peace to you all...

A 'tired of H20' slave of Christ,

SJ

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Help! Help! My son wants to tell elders about me

by LostMyReligion in

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i am floundering!.

today my jw son told me that he had seen an email in our family account written to me from an exjw.

it contained very little, but enough to let him know that i was in contact with outsiders about my doubts and feelings.

AGuest

Hello, dearest LMR... and may you have peace!

The BEST thing to do? Tell your SON... the truth about your doubts and feelings. Tell him that just HE has to do what HE has to do... you have to do what YOU have to do. And that is... tell the truth. Tell him WHY you have doubts. This is your SON, LMR. If he can't hear the truth from his own father/mother, who in the WORLD is he to hear it from?

As for the 'Borg... fagetabowtit! Yes, you most probably will be reproved, rebuked and... expelled. As my Lord said, "They WILL expel you from their synagogues." But if they do it, they WON'T be doing it because you committed some 'error'. They will be doing it because YOU... told the truth.

Truly, it IS the best thing. Albeit, it won't be the easiest. I cannot lie to you.

I am sure that there are many here whose hearts... and prayers... will be with you. And, if you 'wish' it, you can ALWAYS take to heart the words at 2 Corinthians 6:16-18, which says:

"Therefore, GET OUT FROM AMONG THEM... and QUIT touching
the unclean thing... and I WILL TAKE YOU IN. And I shall
be a Father to you and you will be SONS and DAUGHTERS to
me,' say JAH the Almighty."

You don't HAVE to be 'alone' in this, LMR. For my Lord DID say, "Look! I am WITH you... ALL the days... until the conclusion of the age."

Again, I bid you peace, and remain,

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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Who Was Cain Afraid of?

by patio34 in

when god banished cain, why was he in fear of his life when there was only he and his family on the earth?

after all, how many could there have been and is it logical to think they were everywhere else--anywhere else but where cain and his family lived?

so, who was he afraid of that would take his life?.

AGuest

Thankfully, dear 'Pom... Paul... is not my 'leader', and with my Lord, there is no 'partiality'. This should conclude our... 'issue'.

My peace remains... and I remain...

YOUR servant, and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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JW.com - You've kept your promise...

by AGuest in

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... and i won't 'forget' you.. to simon and all those here at jw.com that permit me freedom of speech and the privilege to carry out my 'commission' to the household of god, wherever they may be... and you know who you are:.

i cannot go a step further, without offering you my sincerest thanks and appreciation for your kindness.

for even if you don't agree... and choose not to 'hear'... your graciousnes with allowing me to speak will not be forgotten.

AGuest

Dearest Logical... may you have peace!

Sorry, I can't do that ('beam you up'). Honey, I can't even sell tickets! I can only tell you where to BUY them... or better yet, who to 'buy' them from.

I only WORK for the 'TicketMaster'... standing on the corner with a sign pointing that says, "Tix, this 'Way', people!" I can 'hook you up' with his number, though... LOL!

Revelation 3:17, 18
Revelation 22:17

Peace to you, dear one, TRULY!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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JW.com - You've kept your promise...

by AGuest in

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... and i won't 'forget' you.. to simon and all those here at jw.com that permit me freedom of speech and the privilege to carry out my 'commission' to the household of god, wherever they may be... and you know who you are:.

i cannot go a step further, without offering you my sincerest thanks and appreciation for your kindness.

for even if you don't agree... and choose not to 'hear'... your graciousnes with allowing me to speak will not be forgotten.

AGuest

Dearest 'lang'... may you have peace!

No, this was just a sincere offer of thanks. I receive pretty bad treatment at H20, and the folks here have been quite accomodating. I wanted to speak my appreciation.

Kismet... have we met? Perhaps so. Either way, may you, too, have peace! I need to clarify a few things that you said... well, you AND COMF:

When I first came to H20, I posted under the name "Phoebe" for that is the name I am sometimes called by my Lord (no, it is not the name written on my forehead, for those who care...)

When I came, I did not know what to expect, for I had never been sent before. While many ridiculed me, a poll revealed that in actuality only two people had problems. Several did not. But I was frightened... and confused... over the response. I was not told that it would be that way. I completely understood how Jeremish felt. So, I left. But... I was told to go back, which I protested at first, and then asked leave to hide my identity. I was told to post, I THOUGHT, as 'a guest' and so posted simply under the 'guest' logon. I did not understand what I had heard on this until later.

After some time, OTHERS started referring to ME as 'LifesWaterFree' and other, er, spoofs on that name, and so, to identify myself, I just went with it. It was NOT a name I chose for myself, but one the BOARD chose for me. Since it worked for them, I used it.

After awhile, one of my spiritual brothers said that HE could not take what I was receiving from the Board... and posted that I would no longer be speaking there. In obedience to what he said HE heard... I obeyed. Partly because I had been taught such obedience by the Borg, and partly because more than ANYTHING, I did not want to stumble him. He truly could not take the hatred and animosity shown by some there, for he KNOWS me... and knows that I am not the kind of person many were making me out to be. (Some took it upon theirselves to get to know me personally, and know that what I am sent to speak is a bit different from my OWN personality).

After that, my Lord came to me and said I was to return to H20. I asked him about what my 'brother' had heard and posted. And my Lord reminded me of MY commission and that if there was ONE righteous person in that 'city', I must go back and speak to them. And so I did. I did not return as 'LifesWaterFree', because for SOME reason, folks started lumping other folks under that name. JUSTAMOM, is Kim. FINALCALL, is Donny. They SAY who they are. And yes, I know them... quite well... as I know many OTHERS who post, too. And some who just 'lurk'. Because of the misidentification of others with 'LifesWaterFree', I chose NOT to use that name.

What name would I use? I asked on it and kept hearing 'a guest', 'post as 'a guest'. But I couldn't DO that, as I had been warned by the Board that it would not be acceptable to keep using the 'guest' logon. So, I KEPT asking what was meant until my Lord directed me to Psalm 15:1. It was THEN that I understood that I was approved to be 'a guest' in the 'tent' of my Father... and that my COMMISSION... was to 'invite' OTHERS to be 'guests' as well. And so, I started posting under 'AGuest'.

This caused MORE animosity, false accusations and finally a LIE against me directly (including a vulgar reference to blowjobs by Mr. COMF - hey, I'm 41 and I can say 'blowjob'... I know what one is...), that I returned to my Lord and asked what to do. And I heard my Lord say to me, 'Simply tell them WHO you are. Tell them all about yourself... what have you to hide? Are you ashamed of me and the work I have given you to do?" And I was not. So, on the Board, I told my name, address, age, race, sex, familial status, and even confessed my sins. A couple of folks called Mr. COMF to task on his vulgarity; they were shocked that he went to such depth, and the Board did nothing. But I 'handled' him myself, and it we have been at odds, I guess, ever since. We normally don't even address each other, other than when he has some snide, vulgar, sneaky remark to make, which he COWARDLY does under other logons. This is the FIRST time in some time that he has addressed me as himself.

Now, I sign my posts "SJ", which stands for "Shelby Johnson", my true name and identity. I have nothing to hide, and I don't care anymore about the ridicule. I have asked for and received 'a forehead hard as flint'. Believe me, I USED to cry over these things, but not anymore. There are too many who DO wish to 'hear' the good news of my Lord and the free gift of holy spirit, for me to let the few that don't get to me. And my 'rewards' are GREAT! The things I am permitted to see, simply because I obeyed and went to 'work' in the 'field' of my Lord... I cannot put a price on. Ridicule is too small a consequence for me to worry.

I have not been 'sent' here to JW.com, as I was to H20. I was LITERALLY sent there. I am here because I felt welcomed, if not entirely agreed with, and as my Lord said, "When they persecute in ONE city, flee to another." And so, I did. Of course, I appears that I have the same 'ridiculer' here, as I had at the beginning there.

He seems to be a man who has difficulty speaking truth... or anything of substance... unless it glorifies his 'intelligence'. I am not intelligent per say, so I have to speak what someone else GIVES me. I am, however, as honest as I can be, and speak from my heart. Always. For 'out of the hearts ABUNDANCE, the mouth speaks.' Apparently, there's a LOT of stuff... in my heart. And I cannot contain it there. Sorry, but I simply cannot hold it. My heart would burst.

I find it intriguing, though, that the things I say, even in the way of offering sincere thanks or apology makes that one... and perhaps you, too, SO uncomfortable. Apparently, these are things that he simply CAN'T receive. I wonder who robbed him of his ability to FEEL... and express himself from HIS heart? But, I UNDERSTAND it, for one cannot express from the heart what one does not POSSESS in his heart... and particularly if one does not HAVE a heart.

Most of the people here, and on places like H20, and indeed, in the world, feel discomfort at pure, UNADULTERATED, truth. They consider it corny, mushy, grandstanding, and egoism. They WOULD. For they are the same ones that roll their eyes at any expression of emotion. And no wonder: the WTBTS does not teach such things. So much of what they say is built on LIES and a LACK of love and emotion, they are 'crippled'... and turn out 'cripples'. Some of us 'heal', however, and learn to speak the truth to one another.

So, that is the TRUTH of the matter in a 'nutshell'. If you have a personal problem with me, please, feel free to express it. If you have a problem with what I SAY... express that, too. I will respond, if I can. But I will always bid you peace, as long as you receive such peace. If not, I will ask that my peace return to me.

Which is what occurred with you, right, Mr. COMF? And I am flattered that you have 'condescended' to even ADDRESSING me. What, you're not wearing your asbestos chonies? Perhaps you think your 'status' has changed. It has not; however, love does not keep account of the injury, so any ill-will that you have borne me, has already been forgiven. That which you bore against the Holy Spirit, however... well, do we really NEED to go there again? A 'speedo' will not 'cover' you, Captain.

So, do me a favor... be nice... or be nasty. Don't try to be both. It doesn't 'become' you. Personally, I would rather that you didn't address me at all, so that I would not be forced to even acknowledge you. I know that you don't 'see' things as I do. However, I grant YOU the freedom to say what you wish. I do not wish to do 'battle' with you... but I am certainly not 'above' it. And you know it. For all I need do is patiently wait, and you WILL again... 'sin with your mouth'. My suggestion? You keep it closed before you do.

Peace to you 'lang' and 'Kismet'...

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5 RECONSIDERED

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friends

here're some points for one to think about before quoting 2 timothy 3:1-5 for our days, that i would like to share with you.. in 1274, peter the monk wrote:"the world is going through troubled times.

today's young people only think of themselves.

they've got no respect for parents or old people.

AGuest

Dearest bj... may you have peace!

Have you not heard and did you not read... 'There is NOTHING new... under the sun.'

Succinct truth.

Peace to you!

A slave of Christ,

SJ