Amen... and amen.
Peace, Girl-O... to you and your entire household (my boys!)!
Your servant, sister and fellow slave of Christ... to time indefinite...
Shel
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by JUSTAMOM inhello to all today:.
sick of that title???.
ever notice how often the term 'apostate' is used now in the wt articles.
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i gave my word
by teejay inginny, you said, .
i understand the thinking, i guess, it's just that i was never (am not) that way.
if i am a laughingstock, it is only because i believed the way you presented yourself.
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To the poster of the very FIRST post on this thread... ALL those in between (except Sunchild, 'cause I can't lump her in this one, sorry - and maybe 6of9, but I'm not quite 'sure')... to the very LAST poster thus far...
May you ALL have peace... and may I say:
SIGH!
Can you ALL not see that you are ALL saying the EXACT same thing... about everyone but yourself? Why are you DOING this? How many 'cubits' will it add to your lifespan? To your 'intelligence'? To your perception... to your knowledge? Will you not still think that YOU are 'right'... whoever you are... and the others are 'wrong', whoever THEY are?
There IS no 'solution'... for none of you seek 'resolution'... but seek instead your own form of 'glory'... being 'right'.
We are ALL wrong, from time to time, and WRONG others... from time to time. ALL of us, including myself. If, therefore, you ARE 'wrong', from time to time, and 'wrong' others... from time to time...
why not let yourself... BE 'wronged'... THIS time?
For it is the one that LET'S him or her self be 'wronged'... that, in truth... is 'right'.
Have you 'ears' to hear? I pray that you do.
And I am still...
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ
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May I 'share' with you...
by AGuest in"has everlasting life" and "i shall resurrect him" in verse 54; and.
into moses by means of the cloud and of the sea.... and all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same.
may you have peace in christ jesus!.
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Flip... er?
Frank... {SIGH}... nevermind.
May you both have peace.
SJ
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Dearest Pomegranate... may I ask you...
by AGuest inand you answer me, please, at what point did my lord ever 'sin'?
sin, dear one, is disobedience... to the commands of my father... whether given through the law covenant... or through holy spirit... yes?.
if then, the bible says of my lord that he was 'without sin' and 'learned obedience from the things he suffered', for which he was made 'perfect'... tell me, please... if you know... when did he sin?.
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Golly, 'Pom... you are TRULY... one 'stupid' man...
I did not teach my Lord to be 'liar' in the sense that YOU and others know the word... a 'deceiver'. And that was entirely my point. My Lord told his disciples he was NOT going up, but in fact DID go up... secretly... for their protection, as well as for the entire WORLD's. In MOST circles, that would be considered a lie. However, my POINT was that it was NOT... because the word referred to in the LAW COVENANT... meant deception and malice. He meant neither, but quite the opposite... love and salvation. YOU cannot 'see' that because the 'light' in YOU... is very dark. Absolutely NO 'illumination'.Why? Because your heart is 'veiled'... by your insistence on adherence to the Law Covenant, rather than preaching it IMPALED and heralding instead... a NEW Covenant... one of love, mercy and forgiveness. It is by MEANS of that New Covenant... that I have 'freedom of speech', even to say what I 'hear'... and whom I hear it from.
2 Corinthians 3:12-18
Yes, I hear spirits... and so did my brothers. If not, how then did John say to TEST the 'inspired expressions to see if they originate with God'? If, however, YOU knew what you were talking about, you would know that this 'discernment of inspired utterances'... is a 'GIFT' of the holy spirit. (1 Corinthians 12:10).
In addition, IF you knew what you were talking about, you would know that I did not blaspheme against that spirit... which is NOT the same as blasphemy against the Christ... which I didn't do either... but spoke TRUTH. Had I hid my gift, or denied my 'light'... then I would be acting in SHAME against that spirit... and against my Lord... who would in turn be ashamed of ME... before my Father. Rather, I was TOLD to 'let my light shine'; indeed, I am to say IN THE LIGHT, what I hear from my Lord IN THE DARK, and preach FROM THE HOUSETOPS what I hear 'whispered'.
And it is with 'whispers'... or 'low tones'... that my Lord speaks to me. Satan, however, 'KEEPS transforming himself into an angel of light' and ATTEMPTING to 'whisper', too. But his... is the 'voice of a stranger' and thus does not 'ring true'. So, indeed, I 'test' WHATEVER expression I am uncertain as to have originated with my Lord.
Matthew 10:27-28
Proverbs 8:4-11You would ALSO know that there is no 'law' against hearing spirits... but against acting as a 'medium' for such spirits... or a psychic... which I do not do, and have no DESIRE to do. I am not a 'mediator', so I cannot and will not use my 'gift' to contact the spirits of ones in Sheol, Hades, etc., on behalf of those still living in the flesh, nor will I ever use it to divine... attempt to 'see' the future. Those things are 'detestable' to my Father, as He has told me through my Lord. I have been given VERY specific directions as to how I am to use my gift... under what circumstances... and for whom. And to the BEST of my ability... I attempt to do 'just so'.
You would ALSO know that indeed I do NOT have 'the mind of God'... and neither do YOU... but I DO have 'the mind of Christ'. But you are a PHYSICAL man... and not a SPIRITUAL one... these things are 'foolishness' to you. Indeed, NO ONE can say, "Christ is Lord"... EXCEPT by holy spirit! However, it is YOU who have repeatedly stated MY Lord, the Son of God, to be 'accursed'.
1 Corinthians 2:11-16
1 Corinthians 12:3But I have worries or concerns regarding you, 'Pom, for my Father, through my Lord... WILL rebuke you. It is indeed coming. Therefore, you are but a fleeting thought in my small life.
Ianao... there is no 'holy war' here... and I have no desire to 'be at' Pomegranate's 'throat'. Not at all. I am only making a defense for my hope... and the TRUTH... of which 'Pom quite obviously knows nothing about. He is a 'contender'... and self-righteous individual... and I only respond for the sake of 'onlookers', such as yourself. I do not need 'Pom's approval... or yours... nor do I seek it. My peace to you remains, however, if indeed you 'receive' it.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
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Scriptural Validity of Earthly Paradise?
by stevieb1 insociety correct in it's interpretation of such scriptures as psalm 72:16; isaiah 11:8,9; 35:1,6,7; 55:13; 65:21-23 and most prominently revelation 21:3,4 by intimating that these things will be fulfilled on earth at some point after armageddon, or have these verses been taken out of context and misapplied?
it would be important to be sure on this matter as this is a primary witness doctrine.
if they are wrong on this matter then what about jehovah's original purpose for the earth (psalm 37:11; isaiah 45:18)?
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Golly, 'Pom... you are TRULY... one 'stupid' man...
I did not teach my Lord to be 'liar' in the sense that YOU and others know the word... a 'deceiver'. And that was entirely my point. My Lord told his disciples he was NOT going up, but in fact DID go up... secretly... for their protection, as well as for the entire WORLD's. In MOST circles, that would be considered a lie. However, my POINT was that it was NOT... because the word referred to in the LAW COVENANT... meant deception and malice. He meant neither, but quite the opposite... love and salvation. YOU cannot 'see' that because the 'light' in YOU... is very dark. Absolutely NO 'illumination'.
Why? Because your heart is 'veiled'... by your insistence on adherence to the Law Covenant, rather than preaching it IMPALED and heralding instead... a NEW Covenant... one of love, mercy and forgiveness. It is by MEANS of that New Covenant... that I have 'freedom of speech', even to say what I 'hear'... and whom I hear it from.
2 Corinthians 3:12-18
Yes, I hear spirits... and so did my brothers. If not, how then did John say to TEST the 'inspired expressions to see if they originate with God'? If, however, YOU knew what you were talking about, you would know that this 'discernment of inspired utterances'... is a 'GIFT' of the holy spirit. (1 Corinthians 12:10).
In addition, IF you knew what you were talking about, you would know that I did not blaspheme against that spirit... which is NOT the same as blasphemy against the Christ... which I didn't do either... but spoke TRUTH. Had I hid my gift, or denied my 'light'... then I would be acting in SHAME against that spirit... and against my Lord... who would in turn be ashamed of ME... before my Father. Rather, I was TOLD to 'let my light shine'; indeed, I am to say IN THE LIGHT, what I hear from my Lord IN THE DARK, and preach FROM THE HOUSETOPS what I hear 'whispered'.
And it is with 'whispers'... or 'low tones'... that my Lord speaks to me. Satan, however, 'KEEPS transforming himself into an angel of light' and ATTEMPTING to 'whisper', too. But his... is the 'voice of a stranger' and thus does not 'ring true'. So, indeed, I 'test' WHATEVER expression I am uncertain as to have originated with my Lord.
Matthew 10:27-28
Proverbs 8:4-11You would ALSO know that there is no 'law' against hearing spirits... but against acting as a 'medium' for such spirits... or a psychic... which I do not do, and have no DESIRE to do. I am not a 'mediator', so I cannot and will not use my 'gift' to contact the spirits of ones in Sheol, Hades, etc., on behalf of those still living in the flesh, nor will I ever use it to divine... attempt to 'see' the future. Those things are 'detestable' to my Father, as He has told me through my Lord. I have been given VERY specific directions as to how I am to use my gift... under what circumstances... and for whom. And to the BEST of my ability... I attempt to do 'just so'.
You would ALSO know that indeed I do NOT have 'the mind of God'... and neither do YOU... but I DO have 'the mind of Christ'. But you are a PHYSICAL man... and not a SPIRITUAL one... these things are 'foolishness' to you. Indeed, NO ONE can say, "Christ is Lord"... EXCEPT by holy spirit! However, it is YOU who have repeatedly stated MY Lord, the Son of God, to be 'accursed'.
1 Corinthians 2:11-16
1 Corinthians 12:3But I have worries or concerns regarding you, 'Pom, for my Father, through my Lord... WILL rebuke you. It is indeed coming. Therefore, you are but a fleeting thought in my small life.
Ianao... there is no 'holy war' here... and I have no desire to 'be at' Pomegranate's 'throat'. Not at all. I am only making a defense for my hope... and the TRUTH... of which 'Pom quite obviously knows nothing about. He is a 'contender'... and self-righteous individual... and I only respond for the sake of 'onlookers', such as yourself. I do not need 'Pom's approval... or yours... nor do I seek it. My peace to you remains, however, if indeed you 'receive' it.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
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FATAL ASSUMPTIONS
by You Know injesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.
these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.
so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.
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Dearest Kat... BRAVO! I APPLAUD your 'courage'... in leaving off following the 'golden calf'... AND in speaking out to You Know.
May you have peace!
A slave of Christ,
SJ
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May I 'share' with you...
by AGuest in"has everlasting life" and "i shall resurrect him" in verse 54; and.
into moses by means of the cloud and of the sea.... and all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same.
may you have peace in christ jesus!.
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A post from elsewhere in 'cyberspace'...
Dearest [blank]... may you have peace!
If ANYONE is getting 'sick' from partaking, it is the result of a 'bruised' conscience, which conscience has been bruised NOT by such one 'unworthily partaking'... but by the perpetuated LIE that all should not be doing so. If you will, review the words of my Lord at John 6:48-56... and notice the word:
"anyone" in verse 50
"anyone" and "live forever" in verse 51
"Unless" and "no life in yourselves" in verse 53
"has everlasting life" and "I shall resurrect him" in verse 54; and
"remains in union with me" in verse 56.
There are those whose teachings would SHUT UP THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS, by convincing some to DISOBEY the Christ... and fail to LISTEN to him... and obey his commandments. What commandments?
"KEEP doing this, in remembrance of me."
Who should be doing it? A 'little flock"? Let me ask you, wasn't such 'little flock' to become ONE flock with the 'other sheep'? Indeed they were... JUST LIKE... the 'vast mixed company' who left Egypt WITH Israel, but were NOT Israel... beCAME Israel by means of:
Celebrating the Passover and EATING the Passover Lamb WITH Israel;
Crossing the Red Sea (symbolized by water baptism) WITH Israel
Becoming circumcised in the flesh WITH Israel;
Entering intot the Law Covenant at Mt. Sinai, WITH Israel;
Being sprinkled with the blood of the Law Covenant WITH Israel;
Accepting the provisions of the Law Covenant, including the priesthood WITH Israel; and thus,
Being allowed to worship in the Temple WITH Israel (the Courtyard of the Gentiles).
Such ones were NOT excluded from ANY part or feature of the Law Covenant; how then, are they precluded from the NEW Covenant... which is a BETTER Covenant... and open to ALL... INCLUDING the 'nations'? Indeed, did not Paul(?) say:
". . . that our forefathers were ALL under the cloud
and ALL passed through the sea, and ALL got baptized
into Moses by means of the cloud and of the sea...
and ALL ate the SAME spiritual food and drank the SAME
spiritual drink. For they USED to drink from the
spiritual rock-mass that followed them... and that
rock-mass... WAS... the Christ."
1 Corinthians 10:1-4
At the time that Paul(?) spoke about eating and drinking unworthily, ALL partook. So, he was NOT saying that there were some who shouldn't. No, he was speaking about WHY they partook, that if they did not 'discern' that such was the BODY AND BLOOD OF CHRIST... rather than simply mere bread and wine... they would be eating and drinking 'unworthily'. Why were his words necessary? Because some would arrive already full, having eating at home, and thus saw no need to 'eat and drink' again... because they were full and even alread drunk. And others would not have eaten a meal, and so when they got there, tried to eat and drink it ALL... so that there was none left for late arrivers. They didn't understand... DISCERN... the true PURPOSE and REPRESENTATION of the bread and wine.
He also admonished them to 'scrutinize' themselves... NOT to discern whether they should or should not eat and drink (for ALL should...), but because IF they ate and drank with 'leaven'... hatred and hypocrisy... in their hearts, by means of having 'something against another', particularly a brother... they were 'eating and drinking judgment'... against themselves! How so? God is an examiner of HEARTS... not of flesh. He sees what is on the INSIDE of a man; not the outside. In eating and drinking, we are 'approaching before the altar of God'... to partake of a 'sacrifice'... the Lamb. IF we make such approach 'unclean'... that is 'dirty in our hearts'... we then PROFANE that sacrifice... and have no 'covering'. Thus, our hatred and hypocrisy... our JUDGMENT against our 'brother'... will come to be upon us. For with the same 'judgment' that WE are judging... we will BE 'judged'.
Paul(?) was trying to admonish those present... and us today... to 'cleanse our hands... and purify our hearts'... which is what ALL who approach the altar of God... must do... BEFORE approaching. The Levite priests literally had to wash; however, since the NEW Covenant is one with regard to the SPIRIT, versus the OLD one which was in regard to the FLESH... it is our SPIRITS... our HEARTS... that must be 'cleansed'.
The ones who are experiencing sick feelings because of partaking, are doing so because of an unclean conscience... either because their hearts aren't 'clean'... or because their consciences have been 'damaged'... by 'false christs', who have come into the world to 'mislead, if possible, EVEN the chosen ones.' ALL of mankind have the opporunity to 'hear' the invitation... and accept... and be 'chosen'. What is that invitation? Just as you heard, it is of the Spirit AND the Bride, which say:
"COME! Take 'life's water'... free!"
This invitation... to freely partake of 'life's water'... HOLY SPIRIT... is extended to ALL who 'wish' it, who are 'thirsting' for it... and who 'hear'. Not ALL will receive it, though. For many are invited; few are chosen. Why is that? Because not all who 'hear'... and even 'get the SENSE of it, build their 'houses' on the rock-mass that IS Christ, the Foundation Cornerstone, and the Apostles, the Foundation... and their faith. WE... are a 'building under construction' ON that foundation and its cornerstone. Some, however, instead build their houses upon the SAND... and are as my Lord stated, 'seeds' that plant themselves in rocky soil, or get blown away, or eaten. It is the 'fine soil', however... FAITH... in which we must 'plant' ourselves.
Thus, to those who 'hear' what the Spirit and the Bride say to the congregation:
KISS the Son! Eat his flesh and drink his blood... in FAITH... that 'seasons of refreshment' may come to be upon you from the person of my Father, JAH OF ARMIES... and His Son, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH. Drink from HIS 'cistern'... and from none other... and that 'water'... holy spirit... WILL 'become like a fountain IN you... bubbling up... to impart everlasting life'.
John 7:37, 38
EAT... and become satisfied... DRINK... and become quenched!
May the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, JAH OF ARMIES (Psalm 68:4) and the peace of His Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH (Jah Saves; Chosen/Anointed of Jah), come to be upon you... to time indefinite... if indeed you so 'wish' it and are 'thirsting' for it.
Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all those that 'go with' Israel, by means of a TRUE anointing with holy spirit... and a slave of Christ,
SJIn addition, kes152 stated:
Greetings, [blank]
May you have peace in Christ Jesus!
I found your statement of 'judgement' interesting when you cited 1 Corinthians 11:23-32. I noticed that when reviewing the context of what Paul was saying, it wasn't about "non-anointed" eating and drinking.
In 1 Corinthians 11:20 He says it is not possible for them to eat the 'meal' when they come together. The reason is because when they did come together, ones would greedily consume all the bread and get drunk off the wine. (verse 21, 22).
Then he speaks of how he recieved by 'direct revelation' what our Lord did respecting the memorial of him, by means of the unleavened bread and wine. (Paul didn't find out through scriptures or the 12, but by holy spirit). Then in 27 he says those who eat and drink unworthily (such as they have BEEN doing) will be guilty. If they "approve themselves" (not by the elders) and "come clean" in sight of the Lord by scrutiny, they may eat. By doing this they would not disrespect the Lord by greedily consuming the bread and wine.
Now in the event that one "eats and drinks judgement," what happens? In verse 32 Paul says that IF we eat and drink judgement, we will be "disciplined" by the Lord.* One thing to note is that ones who get "disciplined" by the Lord are recognized as 'sons of God." (Hebrews 12:7, 8 10). If then we are 'sons' we are ALSO "heirs indeed of God, joint heirs with Christ." (Romans 8:17). So the "issue" was NOT non-anointed ones partaking and thus eating and drinking judgement, but those who DID partake, were not respecting of the 'meal' when partaking. They were greedily eating and drinking and despising one another. Hence when they did come together, it was for "judgement" and NOT to glorify Jesus and Jehovah.
That is why Paul said that those who get "judged," are judged so that they are NOT condemened with the world. Eating and drinking judgement does NOT "condemn" you (1 Cor. 11:32). And the discipline you recieve after eating and drinking, confirms you are a 'son,' for those who are not 'sons' are NOT disciplined by Jah.
Hebrews 12:8
Peace to you,
AaronSo, for that are 'interested'... and 'hear'... or 'wish' to hear... what the Spirit says to the congregation, we invite you:
"COME! Take 'life's water'... FREE!"
Peace to you!
A slave of Christ,
SJ, servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all those that 'go with' them, as well as to ALL who everywhere call on the name of the Son of God, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, known to many of you as "Jesus Christ."
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HI Gang!!!
by VeniceIT inwell we just got to our campsite last night.
it's sooo beautiful up here in the san juan islands.
(yes they have internet access .
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Hey, Girl! Welcome back... and peace!
SJ
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FATAL ASSUMPTIONS
by You Know injesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.
these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.
so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.
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when Jesus exposed the enemies of the truth in his day, pointing out that they were hypocrites and murderous vipers, was he being unloving?
Why, then, are you HERE... O man 'fluent in the language of prophecy'... attempting to further 'snatch and scatter' my Father's sheep... who have ALREADY been mishandled and mistreated by the 'bad shepherds' and 'abandoned to the wolf' by the 'hired man'? Why are you HERE... and not in BROOKLYN and PATTERSON, NEW YORK... 'EXPOSING the enemies'... of the TRUTH, my Lord?
(John 14:6)
Perhaps, it is because you are of their 'sort'... a hypocrite and murderous viper yourself? Tell me... tell us all... how do YOU answer?
A slave of Christ,
SJ
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FATAL ASSUMPTIONS
by You Know injesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.
these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.
so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.
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Dearest Winston... may you have peace!
Dear one, I have 'judged' NO one. If You Know committed blasphemy with his own mouth (which he did), and there is a 'judgment' for that... it is not I who condemned him; he condemned himself.
Let me explain:
Let's say you go out and purposefully kill someone. What does that make you? A 'murderer', yes? And so, in referring to you, I can say that you are a 'murdered', for that is what a 'murderer' does, yes? What I can NOT do, however, is determine your SENTENCE for such murder, judge... and CONDEMN you. I can 'call a spade a spade'... but what BECOMES of that spade... it not my 'call'.
Another example:
A woman 'caught in the act of adultery' was brought to my Lord by people who wished her stoned. Why? Because the Law Covenant 'condemned' her act... the sentence being 'death by stoning'... and they wished my Lord to 'pass sentence'. Did he? Nope. Did he deny her act? Nope, he acknowledged it... but he DID NOT JUDGE... AND CONDEMN... her to undergo the SENTENCE of her act.
In keeping with this 'spirit', rather than CONDEMNING You Know... I simply 'exposed' his 'error'... before all onlookers... because I have TRIED in the past to warn him discreetly. It is he that failed to 'hear'... and thus was ALLOWED to 'sin with his mouth'. And as taught me by my Lord, I said that my prayers are for You Know to be shown mercy... which they are... and that I 'fear' for him... which I do... but above that... always... ALWAYS... for the 'will' of my Father... WHATEVER it may be, including mercy... be done.
You have been misled by 'religion' to misunderstand what 'judging'... is. I hope I have helped to 'enlighten' you, as I have been permitted, with regard to the TRUTH of the matter.
Again, I bid you peace, and I am...
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ