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Thus says the Psalmist.... and so be it....

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may you all have peace.. "do hear, o god, my entreating cry.. do pay attention to my prayer.. from the extremity of the earth i. shall cry, even to you,.

when my heart grows feeble.. onto a rock that is higher than i am.

even [his] heart, is deep.. but god will shoot at them.

AGuest

May you all have peace.

"Do hear, O God, my entreating cry.
Do pay attention to my prayer.
From the extremity of the earth I
shall cry, even to you,
when my heart grows feeble.
Onto a rock that is higher than I am
may you lead me.
For you have proved to be a refuge for me,
A strong tower in the face of the enemy.
I WILL be "a guest" in your tent...
for times indefinite;
I will take refuge in the concealment
of YOUR wings.
For you yourself, O God,
have listened to MY vows.
You have given me the possession of your name.
Days you will add to the day of the king;
His years will be like generation after generation.
He will dwell... to time INDEFINITE.. before God.
O assign loving kindness and TRUENESS
that they may safeguard him.
So... I WILL make melody to your name...
forever...
That I may pay MY vows
Day... afterday.

Hear, O God, my voice in my concern.
From the dreadfulness of the enemy
may you safeguard my life.
May you CONCEAL me...
from the confidential talk of evildoers,
From the tumult of the practicers of hurtfulness,
Who have sharpened their tongue
Just like sword,
Who have aimed their arrow...
BITTER SPEECH...
To shoot from concealed places
At someone BLAMELESS.

All of a suddent they shoot at him
And do not fear.
They hold themselves...
DOWN TO BAD SPEECH;
They make statements about
hiding traps.
They have said, "Who sees them?"
They keep searching out unrighteous things;
They have hidden a shrewd device
well searched out.
And the inward part of EACH one,
even [his] HEART, is deep.

But God will shoot at them
with an arrow suddenly.
Wounds have resulted to them,
And they cause one to stumble.
[But]...
Their tongue is against THEIR OWN SELVES.
All those looking upon them
will shake their head,
And ALL earthling man will become afraid;

And they will tell of the activity of God,
And they will certainly have insight
into His work.

And the righteous one will REJOICE
in JAH...
and will INDEED take refuge in Him;
And all the upright in HEART...
will boast.

Amen and amen... so be it.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Oz, perhaps?

by AGuest in

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friends

freedom allows all opinions and facts to be uncovered.

letting people air everything helps us understand what the issues truly are.

sure some are more unprofessional than others but a person willing to understand what is going on will not worry about the "ad hominem" attack or swearing.

AGuest

Dearest Detective... may you have peace... and may you know I have answered your question, entirely, where else you asked it.

Silverleaf... may you, too, have peace... and may I ask you at what time in HISTORY was ANY of those 'sent'... received by the majority?

Peace to you both.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Oz, perhaps?

by AGuest in

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friends

freedom allows all opinions and facts to be uncovered.

letting people air everything helps us understand what the issues truly are.

sure some are more unprofessional than others but a person willing to understand what is going on will not worry about the "ad hominem" attack or swearing.

AGuest

SIGH! DWilt, DWilt, DWilt...

Just because you can't 'hear' HIM... doesn't mean he can't hear YOU. Your words have been 'noted'.

Peace.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Oz, perhaps?

by AGuest in

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friends

freedom allows all opinions and facts to be uncovered.

letting people air everything helps us understand what the issues truly are.

sure some are more unprofessional than others but a person willing to understand what is going on will not worry about the "ad hominem" attack or swearing.

AGuest

Dearest Winston and Conflicted... may you both have peace... and may I share something with you and others here that has been 'said' before? Thank you.

Amaziah the priest to Amos the prophet:

"O visionary, go, run your way off to the land of Judah, and THERE eat bread, and THERE you may prophesy. But at Bethel you must NO longer do any further prophesying, for is the sanctuary of a king and it is the house of a kingdom."

Pharisees to the man who had his eyes OPENED by the Son of God, and PROFESSED that publicly:

"You were altogether born in sins, and yet are you teaching us?"

The older men, scribes and chief priests, regarding the OUTSPOKENESS of Peter and John:

"In order that it may not be spread abroad further among the people, let us tell them with threats, not to speak ANYMORE upon the basis of this name to any man at all."

The older men and chief priest, to Peter and John when they did NOT stop speaking:

"We positively ORDERED you NOT to keep teaching upon the basis of this name, and yet look! you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you are DETERMINED to bring the blood of this man upon us."

My Father, JAH OF ARMIES, to his Prophet Jah-El (Joel), through my Lord JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH:

"And after that it must occur that I shall pour out my spirit on EVERY sort of flesh, and your sons... and your DAUGHTERS will CERTAINLY prophesy. And even on menservants... and MAIDSERVANTS in those days... I shall pour out my spirit."

As a daugther of Israel, from the tribe of Benjamin, that which you heard is being fulfilled. Thus, may I now ask you... and everyone else here who may be 'interested'... how is it, TRULY... that you even THINK I have any 'authority'... or 'control'... in this matter? At all? Perhaps I do not have holy spirit, and perhaps I have not been 'sent'. Yet, if I DID have such spirit and if I WERE 'sent'... in truth, would it be ME that speaks?

I have hid NOTHING from you people, but have shared ALL things and spoken ALL things I have been given to speak. And you now say, "Yes, but if you came in your OWN name... we would receive you." And yet, I have taken NO glory for myself, but have given ALL praise... and ALL glory... to the One who imparts spirit TO ME... and by whose spirit I am directed to speak, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH.

Whether you hear... or you refrain.

And today my Father has said to me... through my Lord:

"With someone LOYAL... I will act with loyalty. So, do NOT leave off from that which I have entrusted to you. Rather, go, and go again, and say to these people... HEAR, you people... but do not get the SENSE of it."

And thus, I will go... until I am either expelled... or recalled by my Lord.

Again, I bid you peace, and I am...

A TRUE servant to the Household of God, Israel, and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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Oz, perhaps?

by AGuest in

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friends

freedom allows all opinions and facts to be uncovered.

letting people air everything helps us understand what the issues truly are.

sure some are more unprofessional than others but a person willing to understand what is going on will not worry about the "ad hominem" attack or swearing.

AGuest

Freedom allows all opinions and facts to be uncovered. Letting people air everything helps us understand what the issues truly are. Sure some are more unprofessional than others but a person willing to understand what is going on will not worry about the "ad hominem" attack or swearing.
Based on Farkel's suggestion I came to this board and liked the freedom it offered. I urge you to keep it as is and not lose the freedom you have offered.

Somehow... I don't think we're in "Kansas" anymore.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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You make me laugh and you break my heart.

by seven006 in

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shelby, .

i will say the same thing to you as i said to shelby.

i read your posts when they are a flower and i think you are quite a woman and you posses so much love and understanding.

AGuest

Danny... dear one... may you have peace... and I 'hear' you. Honest, I do. BUT...

How is that I can be accused of being offended... when I am not... yet not permitted to feel hurt... when I do? I was not offended Kent... OR by Dave's 'counsel'... but by yet another INACCURATE portrayal of me:

If you are attacked for that, don't act surprised that you will get some of the comments you have received

ME? Surprised? Can SOMEONE tell me at what point I expressed surprise? Offense? Chagrin? Anyone? ANY takers?

How is it, please explain, that a grown man can make a post that offends OTHERS... and I get blamed... not only for his vulgar post... but for OTHERS being offended? How is that me... who 'knows nothing', 'hears nothing', 'controls NOTHING'... has this 'power'?

You know what... nevermind. Apparently, I am supposed to apologize for some man I don't even know, who I have never had more than a few words exchange with, making an offensive post... about me and TO me... and for those who were offended. Not him... not them... but me.

Okay... you know what? I apologize. I am sorry. I am SORRY that I caused Kent to post what he did... to the chagrin and detriment of others. I am SORRY that others were offended. I am SORRY that I, little old me... who 'knows nothing', 'hears nothing', and 'controls nothing'... apparently has SO much 'control'... that I can make a grown man and ocean and a continent away SO... whatever... that he loses all self-control, maligns me... and offends others. Yep, I did it. It was me.

And, I apologize because, according to Dave, what Kent did... and the resultant fall-out... is what I "wanted". Yep. Most certainly. I 'provoked' him. Nevermind that I hadn't even exchanged a single WORD with him... on ANY subject of late... but... I did it. I caused the 'uproar'. Again.

You know what, though? I have nothing but love for you people. And even now, I wish you nothing but peace. For those of you who receive my peace... so be it. For those of you who don't, please know that even now, my wish is still sincere. Even if it IS in my 'sugar-sappy-Jesus-loves-you-and-I'm-sorry-but-so-do-I-cause-that's-the-kind-of-person-I-REALLY-am..." kind of way.

(Talk about wanting to have a 'cup' removed; yet, not as I will, Father, but as YOU will...)

I am, because I can only be ME...

Shelby Johnson... YOUR servant... a slave of Christ... to time indefinite... even if some of you wish me not to be... because that IS what I am.

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You make me laugh and you break my heart.

by seven006 in

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shelby, .

i will say the same thing to you as i said to shelby.

i read your posts when they are a flower and i think you are quite a woman and you posses so much love and understanding.

AGuest

Okay... (deep breath)... NOW I'm hurt. Honestly... and truthfully. I bucked up, held in, held on... and 'took it like a'... man. I didn't whine, scream, kick, return the evil, malign, slander or speak one bit of maliciousness. I read something directed at me that was pretty foul, but I didn't take it personally, because I understand the man behind the post... and knew I had done him no harm.

But now... I cannot lie: I am hurt. Sorry, but, yes... I feel pain. And I feel it now. I have a LOT I wish to say in response to you Dave, like, for instance, if it had come from COMF, I could most probably see your comments. I've been there with him. Like, if it had come from Farkel, I could see it; he's hurt, and we've been there before, too. Even Naeblis. The fact that it came from Kent... well, okay... Kent... is Kent.

What I think HURTS me... Dave... your very erroneous portrayal of me in your words:

Shelby... You know exactly how many who have had the JW religion shoved down their throats will react to your comments no matter how sweet and caring you make them sound...

Which is ENTIRELY false... I THOUGHT... that although most realized they had been LIED to... they didn't necessarily blame... or no longer love... God... as a result. I was sincere about God when I was IN the 'organization'; why should THEIR falsehood change ME? And I thought that about many who have left.

I am also hurt by your erroneous statement:

If you are attacked for that, don't act surprised that you will get some of the comments you have received.

I did NOT 'act surprised'... rather, I tried to calm OTHERS down and took no offense. NONE. And if you think my defense of myself before COMF's false accusations, which are NOT 'new', BTW, is taking offense, then you don't KNOW me. I can handle myself with Kent, COMF... Tommy... Tucker... and every other... sucker... that comes off in the manner of those two. I am not a cry-baby... and of course I expect what occurred. I have stated that repeatedly. I... asked Simon NOT to moderate the Board, just like many others.

I am also hurt by your erroneous direction that:

If you really want to show love for those on this board you need to come to that realization and act accordantly.

You know, a poll was taken on another board once, Dave... and I am not as much an 'bad' thing... as you might want to think. You are implying that I give people what they DON'T want. I can't see how you can come that conclusion, however, without ASKING the people. Yes, sure, SOME are offended... and they say that. But just as many are NOT... and THEY... say that.

You say spirits speak to you, well good for you, just please realize that others have a very hard time believing that and trying to convince them they are without love in their hearts if they do not believe it is just wrong.

Find one post, Dave... ONE... where I've tried to CONVINCE anyone of anything. I tell the truth; take it... or leave it. And I say that.

You might want to think about the big picture and find a way to give your message in a more operative manner.

I am 'all ears'... and open to suggestions. Always. And I take GOOD advice... given in love and well-wishing... WELL. I believe DannyBear attested to that.

After all, what is more important to you, your message or the way you present your message.

Apparently, what is important to ME... is irrelevant... isn't it? I present the message the way... I... present the message. Just as YOU present YOUR message(s)... the way YOU present them. Some like your presentation; some don't (then again, maybe EVERYONE likes you... you, then, are indeed quite blessed). Why is it to be different for me?

You know your audience, now figure out the best way to address them that will be more effective than it is now.

Yes, I know MY audience. Are you suggesting that ALL here are a part of that 'audience'? If so, you are in serious error. My message is NOT for all here. Never HAS been... never WILL be. It is, as I have said... TIME AND TIME AGAIN... for those who 'hear'... or WISH to 'hear'. Why is that SO hard for some to comprehend, when I STATE it... over and over and over and over...

Look at what has resulted by your present presentation. Is this what you wanted?

Wanted? WANTED? You are implying that I CREATED this? By my MESSAGE? Seriously!? I am aghast... honestly. That to me suggests that I also deserved to be RAPED... if I wear a short skirt. It suggests to ME... that you think that if I don't WANT to be 'raped', then I better wear the 'right' clothes. And it is a handful of people who SAY... what clothes are... 'right'. Yes, Dave?

Yep. I am hurt. I almost cannot express it. I don't mind being derided, defamed, maligned, slandered, falsely accused, hit, kicked, slapped, punched... even knocked down. What I DO mind is someone who has NO knowledge of the true 'history', NO knowledge of me personally, NO knowledge of what I truly 'hear'... who has the audacity to say... "stop crying"... when I haven't SHED A TEAR.

I bid you peace, though, Dave... and a little bit better 'enlightenment' as to what this is REALLY all about.

YOUR servant... and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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Well, I have NEVER....

by AGuest in

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in all my almost 42 years... received so much attention... good and bad.

never, i promise you.

and truly... all ya'll... i am neither 'worthy'... nor 'deserving' of it... good... or bad.. have you all noticed just how many times the name "shelby" has been used in the past, say 24 hours?

AGuest

Dearest Daddy-O... may you have peace!

1. Re: the 'big' or 'little' F*U's... SIGH! It was neither, Doug. First, I don't talk like to people... okay, yeah, in all honesty I think it, from time to time (and immediately feel remorse), but certainly not with people I consider friends or have a measure of affection for. Our current 'differences' aside, I would consider you both of the latter. SIGH!

2. Re: the "horrible" advice I am "getting" and your need to show me such... "logically, positively and conclusively"... may I say to you... do, dear one... what you feel and need you must do. May I also ask, however, that you permit me... to do... what I feel and need to do, as well? And that if we meet somewhere in the middle... cool... and if we dont'... cool?

This is so sad to me, Doug. Really. I have learned that I can only speak a 'measure' of truth to you... and pay even for that for quite some time. I can't say that I would have held you to this so long. Again, yes, Amazing... I have learned my 'lesson'.

Peace, Doug. Honestly and truthfully... to time indefinite.

Your friend, servant... and a slave of Christ,

SJ

26

Well, I have NEVER....

by AGuest in

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friends

in all my almost 42 years... received so much attention... good and bad.

never, i promise you.

and truly... all ya'll... i am neither 'worthy'... nor 'deserving' of it... good... or bad.. have you all noticed just how many times the name "shelby" has been used in the past, say 24 hours?

AGuest

OMIGOSH! Doug?!!! Honey, is that YOU??!!! You have condescended to address me???!!!! Oh, glory of glories... oh happy DAY!!! Does this mean we're SPEAKING again????

(Please note: I am NOT being sarcastic... I am... er... 'frolicking' (hey, DBear... MUCH love and peace to you... truly!)

C'mon, Doug... LET IT GO! Boyfriend, if you don't... you are going to wither and die in it... even more than you already have. And it ain't like you got 'hella years left to do so. LET IT GO.

And PEACE to you...

YOUR friend, servant and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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Well, I have NEVER....

by AGuest in

jw
friends

in all my almost 42 years... received so much attention... good and bad.

never, i promise you.

and truly... all ya'll... i am neither 'worthy'... nor 'deserving' of it... good... or bad.. have you all noticed just how many times the name "shelby" has been used in the past, say 24 hours?

AGuest

SIGH! So much for 'moving on', eh, *A*? Peace to you!

Winston... may you have peace. Dear one, I don't consider myself to be the 'brightest' crayon in the box, but it would appear to ME... that... logically... if YOU could truly know what Jim Jones were inclined to 'probably' say... it is YOU that would be most likely to imitate his conduct... yes? For it would lend itself to the two of you having similar 'minds'... yes? Personally, though, I wouldn't have the FAINTEST idea as to what Jim Jones would THINK... let alone SAY... and yet even DO... were he in MY shoes... YOUR shoes... or his own shoes.

(Oh, and isn't there something 'wrong' with using TWO names... I mean, like "Shelby" and "Phoebe"... or "Winston" and "DWilt"? No? Heck, I didn't think so, either.)

CountryJoe... "may you have peace"... and may you come to remove yourself from 'straining out gnats, while gulping down camels', which appears to be the case here as you 'missed' my 'usual' greeting for peace, as you entirely missed my wish for undeserved kindness and mercy.

The REASON the 'bb' gun scared me, dear one, is because I am a black woman... and my son is a black man. And the gun LOOKED like a 9mm Glock. And all I could see was my son and his friends somewhere shooting 'innocently', but having some nervous neighbor/cop/busybody mistake its real appearance... and him becoming somebody's 'accident'. While I understand that some here might decry my feelings based on their VERY limited knowledge of what REALLY goes on the real 'world', I KNOW that world I exist in, which might be VERY different from yours and some others... and personally couldn't reconcile the risk... with a few hours of adolescent 'entertainment'.

Detective... peace to you. In response to your question of "where does Shelby post" (though, my Lord KNOWS I can't imagine why anyone would care, but...)

Currently

JW.com

Formerly

H20, and one other forum, the name/location of which I can't remember (it was very brief, anyway)

Every Now and Again... and From Time to Time

Eden 2 Outpost
Newlight 2
Zarathustra
Jerusalem
And another forum recently shown me by kes, but only briefly and I can't remember the name/location of that one, either. kes? Wanna help a sista' out?

Logical... peace to you, dear one... always and until time indefinite...

Okidok... may you have peace... and may you 'come new', cause that one's been asked... and answered.

Jonjon... dear one... peace to you... and if you think that's what I meant... well, then, perhaps that explains why you call yourself 'jonjon'... and not Jon... or John... or some other non-adolescent, kind of name...

Ballistic... may you have peace and may I ask... what 'issues'?

Let's see... who'd I miss... ah, yes... dear Amazing, my 'brother' in Christ by means of an 'anointing'. Yes, I can just FEEL all that 'love among ourselves' flowing from ya. Peace, dear one... and 'right back at 'cha'!

Once again making an attempt at 'moving on'...

A slave of Christ,

SJ