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hidden messages in the bible

by invictus in

have you heard of chuck missler?

i just got his booklet " hidden treasures in the bible", and this is an interesting statement:.

( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning).

to find that you ,would have to read this booklet; method that is being used to determine one system of messaging is called ELS or equdistant letter sequence or skipping of equal intervals of letters.by this method the entire 304,805 letters of Torah were written in 10 x 10 grids which is a common practice in cryptanalysis to facilitate the identification of skipped-letter sequences.

by this method the word Torah is repeatedly found in precise 49 letter sequences , tetragramaton in 7 letter sequences almost like a hidden signature.The probability of this being a coincidencehas been estimated at about one in three million. this method is not a new , it is been used in 13 century. Rabbi Moses Cordevaro said :"The secrets of the Torah are revealed in the skipping of the letters."

please remember that I am only just reading this and yes I find it fascinating, the same as I find sunset,changes of season and others marvels of nature fascinating. I did not wrote the book so i am not going to defend every single tought. Is this book going to give me all the ultimate answers? - no. Is this information presented to change your mind? - i would not even dream about it.

it is simple one sign on my spiritual path that I wanted to share

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hidden messages in the bible

by invictus in

have you heard of chuck missler?

i just got his booklet " hidden treasures in the bible", and this is an interesting statement:.

( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning).

invictus

rem,

yes, I know you can insert the title of any " sacred " book in that statement with the intention of discrediting it. it is very possible that many book can be "decoded" as having some secret messages. but what makes it unique with the bible is that those messages are not random but rather integrated and in harmony with each other. and I am not taking about understanding the prophecies that sometimes seem more to hide the truth than to reveal it; I find interesting to read about almost mathematical design within sentence structure.

as I said I find it interesting , I am not betting my life on it.

thank you for your replay.

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Happy Thanksgiving Canadians!

by Odrade in

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invictus

thank you,

this year is going to be first thanksgiving for us and it will be mix of western and slavic traditions- thanksgiving with pork roast supper- at least one turkey is going to be happy

invictus

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Rainbow (er, um...laylaluv ;)) welcome to JWD! :)

by onacruse in

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http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/60267/908385/post.ashx#908385 i have resolved in my heart and mind to be who i am.

i know with this decision that my family will continue to shun me.

however, i am much happier with myself to be who i am than to be something fake.

invictus

welcome to the board

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hidden messages in the bible

by invictus in

have you heard of chuck missler?

i just got his booklet " hidden treasures in the bible", and this is an interesting statement:.

( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning).

invictus

I am not much familiar with Kabbalah. on the site where I looked it is defined as a jewish mysticism.; and that the bible and jewish law teach man how to relate to god yet kabbalah teaches how god relates to us; that said it probably mostly deals with old testament.

in the booklet I am reading it gives conection between messages in old and their fulfillment in new testament. for example( this is quote):

"Even the word "Torah" itself drawing on the concepts that lie behind original Hebrew letters,embodies some provocative elements: the Tav ( originally a cross), the Vav ( a nail). the Resh( the head of a man) ,and the Heh ( the breath or Spirit of God).Thus,Man, with the Spirit of God, nailed on the Cross! This term was in existence well before Messiah walked on earth."

purpose of this booklet is not as much to define god in mere human terms but to show us how to look beyond immediate context of the bible and its message, not as a record of an evolving cultural tradition, but as an integrated message system , the product of supernatural engineering.

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hidden messages in the bible

by invictus in

have you heard of chuck missler?

i just got his booklet " hidden treasures in the bible", and this is an interesting statement:.

( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning).

invictus

thank you for suggestion,

I try to take everything with a grain of salt as been said,that is why I welcome and respect your opinion.still I am amazed that even today in this time and age people do believe in bible and give some statements that I cannot approve or disapprove 100%, and that is what is mysterious about bible.

you have every right to discredit the bible based on your own experience or study of it ,yet it is not definite answer to is there more to bible than we know it.

i really do appreciate your replies.take care

invictus

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The world is bad the end is nigh - or is it?

by anglise in

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brilliant site showing the history of the apocalypse.

http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

according to isaac asimov's book of facts (1979), an assyrian clay tablet dating to approximately 2800 bc was unearthed bearing the words "our earth is degenerate in these latter days.

invictus

thanks for the link it is really interesting.

amazing how since the begining of human civilization people were always displaying that negative energy proclaiming doomsday instead of focusing on bettering themselves. what is driving them ? jealousy,self-importance,arogance or maybe they are in so much pain or problems that they wish everybody what they feel?

I agree with Makaveli, we probably live in most exciting time in human history.

maybe if we can put our energy on helping each other more, maybe we can make "doomsdayers" silent.

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hidden messages in the bible

by invictus in

have you heard of chuck missler?

i just got his booklet " hidden treasures in the bible", and this is an interesting statement:.

( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning).

invictus

Makaveli,

thank you for your response - I do agree with you that nobody can own the truth or have definite answers. that is one positive thing that I learned after my jw experience - I know that if someone is offering me mind gymnastics to back up his statements or is so sure about everything- I ran in opposite way.

I became witness after being raised in comunist country and started to study the Bible because of curiosity - why would millions of people be drawn to it,and even thou I do not believe anymore in jws interpretation I still find the bible interesting, and as many are going to put down everything they read in the bible,there are as many that will support it.

this guy, Chuck Missler introduces himself as having personal background in the information sciences - computers,communications and cryptography;he holds graduate degrees in engineering and business, and spent a 30-year career in the hi-tech enterprises.

I know this may not be at all important for the validity of his claims,still it shows me that he may not be complete religious fundamentalist and that his study is based on some factual approach.

I guess I still have a need to believe in higher purpose of us humans being on earth than just fertilizers after we live pitiful 70 - 80 years.

invictus

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Explaining politics to a JW.......

by Makaveli in

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is like explaining gravity to a 4 year old.

they have their heads so buried in the sand its soooo frustrating ...

why do they act like politics doesn't matter ?

invictus

hi and welcome to the forum,

it is true what you said, but with my jw friends, who were from Eastern Europe, were had so many discussions about the politics and some very heated debates that I often wondered how could they call themselves witnesses.after a while I started to be very careful about commenting on events from that part of the world just to avoid being drawn into endless political debates.

guess witnesses come in all shapes and sizes.

invictus

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hidden messages in the bible

by invictus in

have you heard of chuck missler?

i just got his booklet " hidden treasures in the bible", and this is an interesting statement:.

( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning).

invictus

have you heard of Chuck Missler? I just got his booklet " Hidden Treasures in the Bible", and this is an interesting statement:

( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning)

Hebrew English

Adam Man

Seth Appointed

Enosh Mortal

Kenan Sorrow

Mahalalel The Blessed God

Jared Shall come down

Enoch Teaching

Methuselah His death shall bring

Lamech The despairing

Noah Rest or comfort

so put together:" Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow:( but )the Blessed God shall come down teaching ( that) His death shall bring ( the ) despairing rest.

Then he coments:" Here is a summary of God`s plan of redemption,hidden here within the geneology in Genesis! you will never convince me that a group of Jewish rabbis deliberately contrived to hide a summary of the Christian Gospel right here in a genealogy within their venerated Torah!"

for me, after leaving jws , is really refreshing to read different oppinions. I don`t know hebrew or aramic so there is no way of checking this statements but if this is really accurate then it makes it interesting. what do you think?

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