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  Now I`ll be disfelowshiped for sure ...

  by invictus in

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  well after two months of silence i got a couple of phone calls from my "best jw friends".

  probably motivated by november watchtower instructions, they were nice asking about a family, kids etc, and then came "the" question: when are you going back to the meetings?

  i told them again reasons why not ,yet they tried to be sympathetic by warning: as long as you do not go around and bad-mouth the organization we can still be friends.

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  jessicajah,

  thank you for your kind reply and if I missed to welcome you here it is - welcome to the forum and looking forward to your posts.

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  Now I`ll be disfelowshiped for sure ...

  by invictus in

  1. jw
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  well after two months of silence i got a couple of phone calls from my "best jw friends".

  probably motivated by november watchtower instructions, they were nice asking about a family, kids etc, and then came "the" question: when are you going back to the meetings?

  i told them again reasons why not ,yet they tried to be sympathetic by warning: as long as you do not go around and bad-mouth the organization we can still be friends.

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  Maveric,pat,bebu,Heather and jgnat,

  thank you very much for your understanding and support.

  You know when I was told to go to the meetings I asked them:so you want me to act as a disfelowshiped person even I am not? and the response was : well it is you who have a problem not us or society so you have to work it out?!

  oh, I worked it out - out the door as fast as I could, and yes I do count my blessings especially regarding kids who are going to have a normal childhood.And regarding wt org, I first felt very hurt,then angry then sad,and now - just disapointed with myself that I didn`t see who they realy are earlier...better ever than never.

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  Will The Brothers and Sisters Marry and Have Children in The New System?

  by AwakenedAndFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a question for active elders, ex-elders and other bible experts regarding the following topic:.

  will the brothers and sisters marry and have children in the new system?.

  according to the watchtower, yes .

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  I remember having really hard time with this question,so I asked elders who told me that there will be children only from families that survived armageddon or resurrected children and after 1000 years when the final test is done we`ll all be perfect adults. So I asked what about children would we have them then?One of them told me no , we would be perfect adults with no desire to have children because we only have to fill the earth not overflow it with perfect people.Well, that just open the gates for so many other questions that I had...when he was unable to answer and he realized that his answers are becoming even more foolish he just said: It is more important we make sure we do what Jehovah wants now so we make it to the new system,and than we`ll have all the answers-it is not wise to speculate?!

  that was another of those questions I was supposed to put on the shelf.

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  Can We Give Words of Support To Simon For This Forum???

  by minimus in

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  we go through cycles every so often here.

  we get new posters every week and at times we lose some posters.

  when most "newbies" find this site, they are thrilled to be able to express themselves in a way that they could never in a kingdom hall.

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  My wholehearted support and admiration for Simon and this JWD forum.It did help my family and me a lot in finding the real truth about wt and also having a peace of mind that we did a right thing. If it wasn`t for this forum we might still be plagued by guilt of even doubting god`s organization.

  thanks again.

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  I'M SICK AND TIRED

  by Yerusalyim in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  literally, sick and tired.

  burning my candle at both ends is catching up with me.

  14 to 16 hour days at work have me worn out...and i picked up the cold that's been plauging my daughter for a week now.

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  Sorry for you,Yerusalyim

  try some home made chicken soup-lots of meat and noodles-sure cure at least in my family.

  and for my biggest complain - having to work full time night shift is turning me into zombie and very cranky one.

  take care of yourself and hope you and your daughter feel much better soon.

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  Now I`ll be disfelowshiped for sure ...

  by invictus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well after two months of silence i got a couple of phone calls from my "best jw friends".

  probably motivated by november watchtower instructions, they were nice asking about a family, kids etc, and then came "the" question: when are you going back to the meetings?

  i told them again reasons why not ,yet they tried to be sympathetic by warning: as long as you do not go around and bad-mouth the organization we can still be friends.

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  Thanks for reply,

  Mysterious,

  now when I am out, it is so sad to see how self righteous they act - they have the truth, they have all the answers, they know even what other people think; really I feel sorry for them.

  Nosferatu,

  If kissing would turn them into frogs then I might consider,otherwise it is a waste

  Unbeliever,

  right now I am thinking of many options, but now it seems unlikely they`ll come-spies will see the wreath on the door, they`ll report that to the elders and they will just anounce that we are disfellowshiped.I don`t think they`ll talk to us.
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  Now I`ll be disfelowshiped for sure ...

  by invictus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well after two months of silence i got a couple of phone calls from my "best jw friends".

  probably motivated by november watchtower instructions, they were nice asking about a family, kids etc, and then came "the" question: when are you going back to the meetings?

  i told them again reasons why not ,yet they tried to be sympathetic by warning: as long as you do not go around and bad-mouth the organization we can still be friends.

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  invictus

  Well after two months of silence I got a couple of phone calls from my "best jw friends". Probably motivated by November watchtower instructions, they were nice asking about a family, kids etc, and then came "the" question: when are you going back to the meetings? I told them again reasons why not ,yet they tried to be sympathetic by warning: as long as you do not go around and bad-mouth the organization we can still be friends. They even suggested this compromise : to keep on going to the meetings, to arive just before the meetings and leave as soon as the meeting is done; that way I am free to keep my freedom to have doubts yet I would not be loosing out to receive Holy Spirit and knowledge?! I don`t know what happened to me because I started to laugh so loud my tears were coming down;I just couldn`t control myself.Somehow I managed to excuse myself and told them I will be calling later.

  Well I did call later but the conversation was like talking to a wall and expecting a response - futile.They already made their judgement that I am under Satan`s attack and he is feeding me lies,and no mater what I say they will not even think to check those information out because they do not want to fall in the same trap.I am sure that I'll be reported to the elders. My response - I put a Christmas wreath on the door - for the first time in my life!

  Whatever they decide to do I do not care - they have no authority or power over me or my family. Thankfuly our whole family got out intact,and for friends - well we`ll just have to meet new ones.

  Again I would like to thank this forum and all fine people that post - it is nice to have a place where we can find understanding and support and be able to tell our stories.

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  I'm back...restored...renewed...reloaded

  by Yerusalyim in

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  simon has restored my limits...thanks simon.

  ya know...if i insult someone...i generally don't mean it...and i usually apologize for it....the topics that got me in trouble are ones i feel very strongly about.

  people i know are in harms way...being shot at...and dying...many here would say there's no meaning to those deaths...which takes the heart out of a soldier and makes it harder for them to concentrate and stay out of harms way.

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  glad you are back and feeling better.

  take care.

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  My dad died too

  by Brummie in

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  november 9th, i got the call at approx 5.15am that morning and have just arrived home from his house in the midlands for the first time since then.

  age 65, very happy man regardless of his illness, had all his wits about him but didnt have any lungs left to help him make it through, suffered a lot.

  never became a witness inspite of mom and 3 of his children being jws for years.

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  My deepest sympathy, may you have strenght and peace to deal with it during this hard times.

  take care.

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  Do You Consider The Ones You Left Behind In The Organization as Bro/Sis?

  by AwakenedAndFree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you consider the ones you left behind in the organization as brothers and sisters?.

  the ones who don't shun me are my brothers and sisters!

  i have a friend/sister who is still in the organization.

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  No, they are more like "good strangers and bad strangers",that`s all.So far our neighbours and co-workers seem to be better friends than witnesses, because they do not put any condition to their kindness and help.

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