Posts by darkuncle29

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I just received a LOVELy letter from Trevor

by mouthy in

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in answer to the one i sent him..i had sent him some christian tracts .which he admits he has little use for spiritual things ( which i can understand bless him) but he did say he wouldnt throw them away one day maybe!!!.

he said that he agreed with me that an apology is truly in order ,& wanted to take this time & the opportunity to offer an unreserved apology for his conduct on jwd,of which he is both ashamed & embarrassed to everyone there /\....he also added he wished you all a very happy christmas.. .

he added that he has not been on jwd since ....thought i would let you all know.. so any who do pray .

darkuncle29

Ok sue me but I have to take another tack here. I worry that this swindler is taking advantage of Grace's propensity for forgiveness. It's not like Trevor accidently bumped into one of us and says, oops, my bad. He set out to trick and deceive. As they say in the detective journals, there was malice aforethought.
Grace while you and others pray for Trevor, I pray for you all that you aren't duped a second time.
Sherry
Ditto for me.

Again, Ditto.

Grace, you are a sweet Poppet, I'd hate to see you get hurt by someone who has not proven trustworthy in the past. Forgive and love, but do not lose the lesson.

Open Question: Did I use the word "Poppet" corectly, and can I get away with that?

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If U Had To Make A Choice----The Internet or a TV?

by minimus in

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which would it be?

darkuncle29

Internet. Already doing it. Do Video games on TV count as TV?

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If you STILL believe in GOD, what do you believe is the RIGHT way?

by Bourne in

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i should preface this by saying that this is generally directed towards the premise of still believing in the christian god, the bible as the inspired word of god, and the desire to worship him in spite of the disillusionment of the jw "take" on "true" christianity.. i am left with many unanswered questions, but don't get me wrong, i don't have "having all answers" listed as a prerequisite to worship god, because even the bible doesnt list all answers, ......faith is expected in at least some areas.

so........that said....... please grace little ol' me with your sincere answers to the following questions:.

1. is this the last days?.

darkuncle29

Isn't there a scripture about going into your inner room and locking the door and praying to god in privacy, as opposed to praying on a streeet corner like a pharisee wanting to be seen by others? I'm not saying you are a "pharisee", I'm just saying the idea of being a solitary worshiper could do you some good.

V said it already about you maybe still thinking in the box as it were. I agree with that, and I know its scary and you have no guide or roadmap, but pushing that boundary also may be a good thing for you.

I think we all have our own path to "God", and organized religion tends to interfere with that path.

I have to read back, but one of the atheists said something very Taoist, without giving it a label, it just was what it was naturally.

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"Who Killed the Electric Car?"

by whyamihere in

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just recommending this video.. .

darkuncle29

I haven't seen the movie yet, but have seen the trailer before. It sucks doesn't it, what big Corp and Politicians can get away with. It makes me sometimes wish that I were as mechanically inclined as smart (as I used to be), because I'd build stuff like this. Any groups of renegade inventors out there?

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Secret Santa 2007 (forum gift exchange !!)

by Angharad in

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well christimas will soon be here !!.

for those that are new we have done this for the last few years, what it involves is that those who want to join in will post to this thread and then pm me their name and address.

i will then collate the names and addresses and assign everyone a person to buy a gift for.

darkuncle29

Just BTT

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political orientation

by John Doe in

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what political flavor are you?

are you secure in your politics?

do you feel a need to bash your opposing ideologies?

darkuncle29

"I believe political parties are intentionally designed to divide people and their attentions away from the real problems. Also to keep the two parties (different sides of the same coin) in power.

If I had to choose an ideology i particularly identitfy with, it would be libritarianism although I hate the name libertarian."

I could not have put it clearer for myself too. And what Terry wrote also resonates with me. So how do you go about changing a bi-partisan, bi-polar structure?

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what religion are you now?

by 4digitcode in

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i'm sure this has been asked a million times before but since leaving the witnesses what religion (or lack thereof) have you chosen for yourself?

and what is it about that religion that attracted you?

since leaving the witnesses i think i no longer believe in god, not out of anger, actually i think i like the idea of him more since i don't believe in him anymore.

darkuncle29

Taoist with some Neo Pagan in the blend.

WT Wizard said "Anti-theist", I like that idea insofar as bible god is concerned I'm an Atheist. I'm done with any and all the Abrahamic religions.

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Interesting old article from Time magazine re:1975

by marmot in

don't know if this has ever been discussed on here.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,901074-1,00.html .

july 18, 1969 .

darkuncle29

Very interesting. Got to file these away in memory for later. Thanks for posting these.

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Christianity in a nutshell

by serotonin_wraith in

let's see exactly what people are holding so firmly to, while all the time believing they aren't actually deluded.. section taken from: .

http://www.richarddawkins.net/article,1816,are-the-new-atheists-avoiding-the-real-arguments,edmund-standing-butterfliesandwheelscom.

first, let's take a quick look at the basic biblical narrative:.

darkuncle29

I found Dawkins very hostile to people of faith in general. And although he may offer some good arguements, his attitude negates it and many of my friends who are not Christians also find him obnoxious and will not read anything he writes.

Bingo! He lumps people who practice religion in with people who just have a faith or belief, they are different. And his tone and attitude, he seems to me as scary as Fred Phelps. Wouldn't that be an interesting match?

As time marches on and advancements are made, many things that are now accepted as fact will be shown to be dead wrong, and many things that are now scoffed at will be shown true beyond the pale of doubt

This is often overlooked. Many scientists who were ahead of their times, had their lives and careers ruined by their peers and the "establishment". Human nature and group mentality, by any other name...

Well no, because atheism is not a belief.

What?

This makes me smile with incredulity, is it "your thoughts on...", or "your philosophy" or "worldview". what would you call it? And really, when we stop playing with words don't they pretty much have some degree of overlap in usage and meaning?

Atheists are NOT dogmatic regarding whether God exists.

ALL atheists, no. Many-Alot-Some, damn straight! The dogmatic ones are becoming like the opposite polarity of freaky-fundy christians, I do my best to stay way away from either end of that spectrum.

Do all atheists believe the same thing? No. Do all Christians belive the same thing? No. If you comprehend this, it will be apparent by your responses.

This concept of personal variability, could you call it individuality? is so important yet lacking.

Science can only postulate on physical observation, it cannot reveal what actually takes place. Scientific theories are only one means of understanding and explaining things. What is laughable to one belief system may be regarded as beyond question by another, and vice versa. It’s human nature. Many believe some scientific theories, but don’t swallow them all. Those that swallow all things scientific are worshippers of science. It is their religion, and scientists are their gods.

I've said that before, but not as well. I think we need to not harden our thoughts, but allow for a flexibility, allow questions-especially unpopular or un PC ones, only then can we make real progress.

Interesting arguments people, to those I quoted, thanks.

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JWs Use A "Very Powerful Weapon" to Silence Ex-JWs

by AuldSoul in

insight on the scriptures volume 1,p.787expellingone who was cast out as wicked, cut off entirely, would be considered worthy of death, though the jews might not have the authority to execute such a one.

nevertheless, the form of cutting off they did employ was a very powerful weapon in the jewish community.

jesus foretold that his followers would be expelled from the synagogues.

darkuncle29

Hi Spritboi. I think to de-program faster, you actually have to re-program. So start reading and exploring. Read up on Taoism/Daoism. Study Bhuddism, and the different schools or "vehicles" as they're referred to. The mythology of Hinduism is interesting, but very extensive. Then, compare, contrast, reflect on what you learn.

As for the Jws weapon, yes its pretty crappy. They ARE just like modern time pharisees, bastards.

To all those hurt by this weapon, I can only say that i sympathize, and not to give up but try to fight it. Even if that fight is only within yourself, healing is possible. When it comes to deeply ingrained programming, I think its better to be gentle and sneaky with it, come at your pain from an oblique angle.