Posts by ToesUp

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"ah yes Dad, do you mean those times when Jehovah made those mistakes and errors?"

by stuckinarut2 in

so...while chatting with my ultra "spiritual elder" father on the phone this afternoon, i couldn't resist using that line!.

i had sent him that video of the recent convention showing brothers and sisters dancing to the "kingdom song" and waving their illuminated phones and arms in the air like some sort of revival church concert.

(perhaps someone can post that link to that thread again here?).

ToesUp

"She'll never leave her social group and I don't want her to do that. Where else would she go? But she has cut the money off since realizing that they got BILLION$ from the sale of Brooklyn real estate. Yeah, MOM!"

We know several still ins that go to all JW events but don't donate a dime. They are strictly there to keep "friends" and family. I have actually had one tell me that he will NOT donate a dime so WT can pay to fight pedophile law suits.

LURKERS: IF WATCHTOWER IS HOLDING YOU HOSTAGE, BY FEAR OF LOOSING FAMILY. VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS! HIT EM WHERE IT HURTS ($$$)!

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"ah yes Dad, do you mean those times when Jehovah made those mistakes and errors?"

by stuckinarut2 in

so...while chatting with my ultra "spiritual elder" father on the phone this afternoon, i couldn't resist using that line!.

i had sent him that video of the recent convention showing brothers and sisters dancing to the "kingdom song" and waving their illuminated phones and arms in the air like some sort of revival church concert.

(perhaps someone can post that link to that thread again here?).

ToesUp

"Then he said "But things change, and like older teachings, we as Jehovah's people are refined and grow. Yes, even teachings that were wrong are now adjusted"

So how would your Dad feel if things like blood transfusions were "refined and adjusted" the day after he lost a loved one due to refusing blood? Things are a little different when they happen to YOU.

Frustrating as hell when dealing with these people.

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Whatever happened to the "written review"?

by pale.emperor in

does anyone know why the written review was stopped?

i relished the half hour silence they'd give you to "write down your answers", time i spend doodling or thinking up cool song lyrics..

ToesUp

Watchtower doesn't allow oral! lol

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CO's talk on loyalty

by Rattigan350 in

the circuit overseer this week on tuesday gave a talk on loyalty to jehovah.

i listed 5 points.

i only remember 3.. one was the typical association with disfellowshipped relatives, the next was loyalty to friends over jehovah by not reporting wrongdoing to elders.

ToesUp

If WT was not having a problem with loyalty, they would not be giving a talk on loyalty. WT is worried, as they should be. Karma is on their tail!

Thanks for the update.

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Elders WILL be removed ...

by The Fall Guy in

..............if their child pursues higher education and lives on campus.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ob4wa/interesting_tidbit_from_elders_school/?st=jc214ok2&sh=cfa8af95.

ToesUp

"What a grand excuse to get out of eldering. "Sorry, boys. My kid's going to college. I will sit down and be a regular publisher. Last I heard, it's not a judicial matter. See ya."

Absoulutly!!

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Why do ex-JW's talk so much about being ex-JW's?

by Sour Grapes in

is it because we were in the cult watchtower compound that we talk about being ex-jw's when we stop being active?

i have never heard anyone say that i was an ex-catholic or an ex-lutheran or an ex-baptist.

they just stop going to their church and don't talk about it.. years after not stepping inside a kingdom hell, many of us still have to talk about being ex-jw's.

ToesUp

This forum has been kinda like a therapy for me. It has helped me feel like I am not the only one going through all this. Thank you everyone!!!

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Elders WILL be removed ...

by The Fall Guy in

..............if their child pursues higher education and lives on campus.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ob4wa/interesting_tidbit_from_elders_school/?st=jc214ok2&sh=cfa8af95.

ToesUp

I will believe that one when I see it. That threat has always been out there. As long as the Elder has his nose up the right ass*s and steps it up a whole bunch, he will be ok. I'm thinking only the average Elder who gives his honest opinion and can't do much for WT or the congregation will be let go. Even then, WT can't even drum up new Elders, they can't afford to let any go. I sure would like to see where some Elders loyalty lies when it comes to choosing Education over his position.

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Family Insists on Having Relationship with My Child -_-

by Cimarrona in

hi gang, i'm a single mother of an 8 month old baby boy.

i've been df'd for over six years now.

my parents are super dubs and most of my siblings are dubs (on paper - a couple have been inactive my entire life but still claim to believe) with the exception of a brother who was never baptized.

ToesUp

The Apostates are fighting back. Watchtower and JW's have NEVER had to deal with this before. I am glad to hear so many are giving it back to those who THINK they are "lovingly" trying to bring you back to the fold (cult).

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By there fruits: The JW's very rarely encourage forgiveness

by goingthruthemotions in

by there fruits you can tell a true christian.

well if this is the case, then if you are not blind it is easy to see that the witnesses truly not what they present themselves as.

my wife is a testament to this characteristic.

ToesUp

Narcissists NEVER apologize!!! I have dealt with 2 100% narcissists in my lifetime. The only thing you can do is RUN LIKE HELL!!! The best and only way to deal with them (and piss them off), is ignore them. They HATE to be ignored.

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E cart witnessing on our way to see Shen Yun in San Francisco

by cha ching in

today, i took the day off to go with my husband to san francisco on bart to see shen yun.

coming out of the station, were two elders at a watchtower cart!

my husband loves to witness to them.. started off with a smile and they smiled back and he told them he had been associated with jehovah's witnesses and now he is not but he wishes to tell them that even though they are going to hear things that are upsetting in the news, there is life after jehovah's witnesses.. they smiled and asked him if they could ask what religion he has gone to, or what he is doing now.

ToesUp

Great job! The carts make it soooo easy for ex JW's to approach them. Hopefully, more will be approached. Don't make it easy for these ones to just stand there. The natives are getting restless within Jah's organization.