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  Freedom Post # 1 - First Timer

  by 7Starz in

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  synchronicity - the simultaneous occurrence of events that appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection.

  today is the first day of the rest of my life.

  freedom.

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  ToesUp

  "I was previously an elder and saw my fair share of the good ole boys network, favoritism, and cronyism, whatever you’d like to call it.  It's amazing how much some of them think of themselves.  They fail to realize their power is all an illusion without the religion.  Minus the religion they are nothing."

  Welcome 7Starz! We (born ins/3rd Generation) have just joined recently also. Been lurking for a long time. It seems like ALOT of Elders are starting to wake up. The Elders get to see so much of the hypocrisy. You are right, some Elders do think ALOT of themselves and would be nothing if it wasn't for their religion.

  We look forward to hearing from you again!   

  It's great to be free! Enjoy!
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  "You are still married, and still happy ?"

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i met an aging, well, late sixties, pioneer sister a few days back, from a congregation four removes away, and a different circuit to my old congo.

  i have known her since i was a kid.. i wasn't quite sure at first if she knew our "status" as we exchanged pleasantries, but it soon became clear she knew exactly our situation, that we walked away a few years ago.. she asked me about my views on life now, and listened respectfully, and said she appreciated my view, but a couple of questions that she threw at me, as in the thread title, showed that she was surprised that mrs phizzy and i had not gone off the rails after we left.. the mind control goes so very deep does it not ?

  she was surprised that our marriage hadn't failed, and that we were now happy.. i wonder if she will ever make the connection that the jw org has lied to her about those of us who leave ?.

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  Congratulations!!!!

  The WT wants everyone to believe that once you leave your life will fall apart. It is kind of like a bad country song.

  Not always the case WT. My mate and I left and are happier than ever! 32+ years and going strong!!!!

  Enjoying life to the full! 

  Cheers Mr. & Mrs. Phizzy!!!
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  Why So Many Young People Are Leaving The Watchtower

  by Jeremy C in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been giving a lot of thought to the young people who are leaving the watchtower organization in recent years.

  last night, i was reading the thread posted by jwfacts a while back in which he provided some statistics and graphs showing the rapidly declining growth in the watchtower.

  one factor that was discussed at length was the high number of young people who do not stay in the organization.

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  I think that this OP was a great one. With Anthony Morris' new JW TV rant on higher education. This organization keeps blaming Higher education for the young ones leaving the org.  They need to take a look in the mirror and see that these young ones are wiser than they give them credit for.

  Kids need something. Something to feel a part of. As a born in, anything that was fun (good clean fun) was always WRONG. Someone in the Congregation (usually a Nazi Elder) usually ruined it for the kids. After a while the kids felt beat down and went out and found other things/people to entertain themselves with (good or bad).

  It's tough growing up in this religion. It's tough growing up in this world.

  I really feel bad for the young ones that are still in. So many are just taking their hopes and dreams away.

  We keep telling our kids to think, listen and speak & never stop learning. When you take peoples (kids too) dreams away, what do you have left?

  Times are getting tougher financially and these kids have it even tougher than we did. They need some form of training to make a decent living. Even some of the Elders and MS's feel this way but can't express it. When your health insurance exceeds your mortgage payment, we have a problem.

  Anyway...if you haven't read the original post, it may be worth the read.    
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  WTS leader rants against higher education

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on jw tv.

  anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

  he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

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  So question...who dropped off that Bethel attorney @ college? Was it the organization? So if that attorney screws up do they have to step down? If an Elders kid decides to screw up, don't they blame the parents? Daddy has to step down (even if he did a bang up job raising his kids?). 

  "Who dropped them off there"? How smug can you get!

  Also, becoming a Nurse can take up to 4 years of college (if you need to take your core classes). Becoming a nurse is alot of work.

  These guys are so out of touch with reality. Come live in the "real world" with all of us tax payers with a mortgage/rent payments. Come join us for 2-3 hours or more a day, sitting in the city traffic and rushing home to get the kids ready for the meeting. Heaven forbid if you're late!!!! Come help us out with the lawn maintenance/home maintenance on the weekends. I guess that would be "our fault" too. They would just say..."who burdened you down"? Who bought the house? It's ALWAYS YOUR fault, not ours.

  Sorry for the rant.

    
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  WTS leader rants against higher education

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on jw tv.

  anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

  he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

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  That idiot is at it again!

  In one of his previous talks I heard, he spoke about University teaching Philosophy I and Philosophy II. Yeah Tony...if students take these courses they may find out that their religion is a crock of s***.

  Hey Tony (if you or one of your "boys" is reading this)...keep up the good work. Trust me...people are starting to figure things out on their own. Keep plugging the Internet, it's working GREAT!
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  Ticket to Paradise - Modern JWs are so...ugh

  by One Last Kiss in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just saw this stomach churning mockup of a boarding pass to: 'paradise' from: 'world' o.o .

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  what is wrong with these people?!.

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  WOW! Someone has WAY too much time on their hands! These people get crazier every year.
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  Not on JW.org : Jehovah's Witness murder covered on Discovery Investigation Wed 8/20/2014

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  9:00 pm.

  60 min.. deadly devotion (season 2)witness to murdertv-14 cc.

  kim anderson, a divorced mother of two and devout jehovahs witness, finally finds the man of her dreams.

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  We just watched this. All we can say is WOW. We witnessed something similar in our KH, several years back. A sister (disfellowshiped) suddenly lost her infant. When we attended the funeral most of the congregation shunned her. We never forgot it. It sickened us!

  The story is tragic but we truly believe this is how some of the Elders handle the sheep. We have watched it all of our lives (born ins).

  They are always speaking about blood guilt but they have ALOT of blood on their hands.   
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  What do Jehovah's Witnesses look like to Non-Cult members

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  Watchtower-Free. That is hilarious!!!
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  LDC Semininar

  by Sour Grapes in

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  ldc semininar @ patterson nov 15-18, 2014 .

  entire ldc dept included remote workers/design/legal/real estate/purchasing.

  oversight.

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  TTATTelder

  We have learned more info about what is going on in the WT world than we knew when we were still attending. LOL

  We love hearing from you and reading your posts!
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  They came, they saw, they left...

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. social
  2. family

  during the holiday period one if my wife's brothers had planned a vacation in our area.

  they drove about 6 hours to a condo they leased for a week to celebrate their wedding anniversary with their married son and daughter.

  they called my wife to let her know they were coming to visit us since they were 2 hours away.

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  In my experience the only time the uber family comes around is if you can do something for them, i.e. a free place to stay or cash. You may get something from them when they attend an assembly or elders meeting that makes them feel guilty that you are "weak". The feeling goes away VERY fast. If they can't count their time, you are just not worth the effort. They have more important things to do. 

  The only time our COBE calls or texts us is when the CO is in town. He doesn't want to get his butt chewed out for not doing this "task".

  Like I have said before...let the elders know that you need something (money, assistance in moving or help around your home), you will never hear from them again (maybe just a phone call or text that the CO is in town this week).

  Can you feel the love? The biggest bunch of Hypocrites I have ever met!!!