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  Last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

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  i know dubs are delusional.

  i know dubs don't reason well.

  i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

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  These people are nuttier than squirrel turds!!!  
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

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  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  I agree, it's good they may be lightening up on some things BUT they are still reeking havoc on peoples lives (shunning, tight pants talks, 23 year old MS's, I could go on and on).

  I sometimes wonder how the families and friends that had to let their loved ones die during the NO ORGAN TRANSPLANTS era. How did they feel when the change was made? Betrayed? Of course they did. The attitude is..."Well they took a stand for Jehovah. We will see them again SOON." I think these people have a book they pull out to get all of these crazy catch phrases ("trust in Jehovah, Leave it in Jehovahs hands, the proper food at the proper time, the light get brighter"). Come on people...WAKE UP!!!    

  A family member of mine was given an extremely hard time because they had to wear a county issued uniform (civil service) that had an american flag on it. I found a Questions from Readers article regarding the same issue related in the letter in the OP. It stated the same thing....if you are not involved in a ceremony you can raise the flag (if it does not bother your conscience). I mentioned this to them and they looked at me like I was out of my mind. I told them to go look it up!!!! Where is the "united in worship"? Are we not supposed to be UNITED (they brag about this).

  Like others have mentioned in other posts, these people don't even know what their beliefs are.

  This incidence was one (one of many) that was the straw that broke the camels back. 

  The judgmental attitudes and the hypocrisy is just too incredible for us. 

  I'd rather take a permanent dirt nap than than spend eternity with these people!

  
  

  
  

  
  

     

  
  
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  Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction

  by pixel in

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  fresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!

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  29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.

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  special meeting to be presented on Saturday, January 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. EasternStandard Time (EST) to all elders and circuit overseers in the United States branch.

  Any Elders on here planning to attend?  We look forward to your comments.

  
  
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  No Natural Affection

  by Sail Away in

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  do you remember how the wt society likes to quote the scriptures that say "the love of the greater number will cool off" in "the last days" and men will have "no natural affection"?

  they applied this to "worldly people".

  even before my exit i, used to think that scripture applied to members of the "christian congregation" too.. i haven't written to my jw mil in about a year and a half.

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  I agree with you Sail Away. It does require hardening of the heart to be able to shun your family (especially your children). I could NEVER shun one of my children or my parents. 

  Who says JW's don't break up families. Shame on them. These are sad stories. I feel for all of you that are going through this. You are all in our thoughts.
  
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  "GB=Faithful slave" TRUE reason for change revealed

  by Viva la Vida in

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  john ekrann, a helper to the gb, revealed the true reason for the change was protecting jws from apostates and other "anointed" christians.. see: http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_e_201501_2_video (around 4:55ms).

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  Lets remember what Brother Splain said a couple of years ago when they made this change at the Annual meeting (new light...hmmm).

  "We love this IDEA"!

  What is the dictionaries definition of an IDEA? A thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action.

  Lucy...you have some Splainin to do! LOL

  They are worried about all the mentally diseased apostates out there that are claiming to be part of the 144,000. That is why the # of the anointed keeps going up year after year.  I don't about you but I was raised that we were NEVER to question anyone that partook at the Memorial. Now all of a sudden they are questioning some who make the claim they are of the anointed.

  So how do we know who actually is mentally diseased?  

  Of course I was also taught that this Generation would not pass away...hmmm! What a joke! 

  These teachings are so easy to discredit.

  
  
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  The contempt of Anthony Morris: the face doesn't lie.

  by freemindfade in

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  i have noticed something even long before even looking into ttatt, something about morris bothered me.

  i am personally very attuned to body language, facial expressions and general subtleties in human interaction.

  there was something about his face that really bothered me, and i will explain it.

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  I agree freemindfade.

  If you spend time in the Corporate environment, these guys/women are a dime a dozen. The difference with "Brother" Morris is he holds a Bible in his hand while he rants.

  Someone mentioned the song by Phil Collins, Jesus He Knows me well. Listen to the words to that song, such a fitting song.
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  The contempt of Anthony Morris: the face doesn't lie.

  by freemindfade in

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  i have noticed something even long before even looking into ttatt, something about morris bothered me.

  i am personally very attuned to body language, facial expressions and general subtleties in human interaction.

  there was something about his face that really bothered me, and i will explain it.

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  Anthony Morris III....a TRUE narcissist!

  
  
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  Why couldn't they have had the same stance with the political cards in Malawi? Why were sisters raped and people killed due to this. How senseless. 

  It's amazing how things are changed (new light BS) when it fits THEIR agenda. Hypocrites!!!
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  What to do about wife and elders

  by Crazyguy in

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  it seams like every time i turn around i find out that the elders are trying to meet with one of my kids or are talking with them about things and of course my wife is instigating it.

  if i say anything to my children she mentions something and they come running.

  one of the ms's is also studying with them as well.

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  I agree with Millie210. Kids are smart. We have planted little seeds in our children and they seem to get it. You don't have to bombard your children with facts, just plant things over time.

  I would also make sure the Elders know that regardless if you are attending meetings or not, you are still the head of your house and they need to tread lightly. Be tactful but firm. They need to respect you no matter the circumstances. Some of these Elders try to use intimidation, push back and you may be surprised how some (not all) head for the hills. I have tried this with some of the Nazi Elders, it works.  

  
  
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  How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.

  as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?

  surely education should come first.

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  ToesUp

  We have family members who took the 1969 article to heart and pioneered. Now they are living on social security and working menial hard jobs in their golden years (ugh!). There is alot of resentment there! They all encourage us to let our kids go to college.

  We believe this is why so many JW's are putting their kids in college. Mother doesn't like the disobedience. Too bad mother!!!