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  JW Broadcasting is dying.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  once a month about 15 to 20 elderly jw publishers would meet at the kingdom hall and one elder was assigned to set up the system so they could view jw broadcasting.

  these publishers were long time pioneers, former elders, and long time publishers who know nothing about computers or the internet.

  they are the last batch of those expecting the generation that saw 1914 or understood it--- to not die off.

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  So if Abraham was over 100 years old when raising a child. Why are the c.o.b.e.'s removed when they reach 80 years old?

  Here is a part of the June 1, 2014 body of elders letter:

  As the organization continues to expand, there is a need for more brothers to reach out and a need for those who now serve as elders to take on more responsibility. To assist in this ef- fort, the Governing Body has decided that, effective September 1, 2014, brothers who are 80 years of age or older will no longer serve as a coordinator of the body of elders. Of course, a co- ordinator of the body of elders who is not yet 80 years of age might also modestly decide that it would now be best to have another brother take on this role.—Mic. 6:8.

  HYPOCRITES!
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  DECEPTIVE JW ELDERS - CASE#2

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  deceptive jw elders case#2 .

  appointing spiritually qualified men to take the lead and serve as elders and overseers has been a feature of watch tower congregational organization since about 1972. jws were told in talks at conventions, in literature, and finally in the two versions of the organization book that the biblical criteria is used when elders meet to consider some men for appointment as an elder.

  jws are also told that these qualified men are already appointed first by holy spirit, and then as the congregation is lead by that spirit to recognize them, the elders meeting is a confirmation of what god has done.

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  Not once have we EVER trusted the Elders. We haven't in the past and still don't. There are some good ones that think they are doing what Jehovah wants them to do. Once you trust these ones they run back to the rest of the Body of Elders and before you know it your name is being announced from the platform.

  Our moto....trust NO ONE!
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  Power blackout during the meeting tonight!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was so funny!.

  the small rented hall our congregation uses had a blackout.

  we think there was some construction work next door that caused it.. at least the glow of everyone's tablets and cell phones kept the place illuminated!.

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  Maybe they didn't have enough $ in the coffer to pay the electric bill.
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  So much "growth"! JW Land double sided coin

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm finding it more and more funny how every wt article for the public or congregation, including jw broadcast talks about all this "growth" and how fast jehovha's organization is speeding up!

  yet everything behind closed doors, insider information, elder letters and sales paint a very different picture.

  i have news for you gb members!

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  It's all a shell game! Keep things moving so everyone will think it's progressing.

  People (the ones who think) can see with their own eyes that the baptism #'s are way down. We noticed it before we left.

  I guess the GB thinks if you say it everyone will believe it. Some will and most will just play along, they don't want to loose the social club they belong to.
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  Shunned or actually...not treated much differently?!

  by Ohiamfree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so today on my way to work, i passed a faithful jw sister who i have met about 6 times and spoken to and was friends with a sister she spends a lot of time with, i looked at her and smiled and she looked through me.

  i wondered if she knew to shun me.

  i'm dating someone when i have no photographic evidence that i am free to remarry ;) let's ignore all forms of abuse and unfaithfulness...anyway!.

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  We were pre shunned too. Marked....never could do enough or be good enough.

  We are ok with it. At this time we are grateful it happened. It helped us realize this is NOT what it appeared to be.

  Thank you JW's for helping us to see the truth about the truth.
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  Abusing the power of tears. Yet another sign of desperation

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i was seating at the meeting this past sunday.

  the latest wt article to be studied speaks of "using our imagination" to think about the blessings of the kingdom.

  the whole study was centered around how we can, and should, spent time visualizing ourselves in the new world, working along with our brothers.

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  They are pushing for kids to get baptized because that is their ONLY hope. Sad!

  The old ones are dying off and they are not converting new ones, so their only hope is the kids! The problem with this is, the kids are smarter than they are (especially when they hit the 20ish age). This is the social media/internet generation and they are a whole different ball game. If they don't like you...they simply unfriend you! As simple as that.
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  Abusing the power of tears. Yet another sign of desperation

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i was seating at the meeting this past sunday.

  the latest wt article to be studied speaks of "using our imagination" to think about the blessings of the kingdom.

  the whole study was centered around how we can, and should, spent time visualizing ourselves in the new world, working along with our brothers.

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  Great thread.

  They do it because they know it works. It used to work on us too. Guilt and fear work wonders on peoples emotions.

  I tried using my imagination that I was part of a loving and kind organization but eventually (like most of us here) woke up to the fact that is is a manipulative, high control and abusive cult.
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  Employment Rules in the Watchtower Organization.

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a jehovah witness teacher is allowed to teach nonreligious subjects in a school owned by a religious organization but,.

  is not allowed to teach the same subject in a school funded or directed by the military..

  since the watchtower views all religious organizations as part of babylon the great who had gods disfavor and would be destroyed at armageddon, no elder including some members of the gb could explain this policy of employment.isocf pg 401.

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  I never got this one....a Brother or sister CAN NOT do electrical work, plumbing work or construction, etc. on a Church. They are not supposed to even enter a church for a function but the WBTS will sell a Kingdom Hall to a church. WTF?

  HYPOCRITES!!!
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  People who study for years ??

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my cong ( my wives cong.

  ) there is a lady who attends every meeting , minus the field service just like a regular dub.

  it just seems odd she has not taken the dip yet.

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  Easy hours! It's all about the hours!
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  Pioneer school in 1000 words

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this strange photo is from a pioneer school graduating class in russia.. they're hiding their faces because, supposedly they don't want to be identified as jw's and run the risk of persecution.. the picture is very telling.

  this very well illustrates how the pioneer school aims to make everyone into faceless drones whose minds are copies of wt indoctrinated automatons and not really individuals.. another thing i noticed when looking at the photo is that some aren't following the instructions to obscure their faces--some peek their eyes above the illuminators textbook and one is quite clearly exposing his profile as if he was talking to his neighbor in mid-shutter instant.. third, it's in russia, and the jw's aren't too welcome there.

  communist oligarchs were quite acquainted with indoctrination and brain-washing techniques, they didn't like competition.

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  Typical JW....weird