ToesUp

Joined

• started 44 topics
• posted 3,615 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by ToesUp

• 
  6

  WTBTS/CCJ.W.'s incriminate themselves

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we are deeply indebted to wifibandit for such revealing documentation.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5690963588546560/november-1-2016-all-bodies-elders-re-using-maintaining-kingdom-halls.

  incidents: .

  38. when property damage occurs, quick action can go far in preventing further damage.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  WT only cares for themselves. The money only flows one way...into WT's pocket. If a Kingdom Hall is broken into, one of WT's precious real estate assets has been compromised. A child being molested, well as WT states...."those are apostate driven lies." Sad but true.
• 
  13

  So does the Almighty God Jehovah make mistakes, or is the society NOT his spokesman?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the society claims to be jehovah gods sole channel on earth - his spokesman.. if any witness disagrees with this claim, they are branded as an apostate and punished.. but the society has made countless errors over the century, and repeatedly changed doctrines and beliefs.

  not to mention the appalling foundation teachings of the organisation's teachings!

  so a simple question: is god making msistakes and getting things wrong, or is this proof that the society is not guided by god?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  Now stuck... that would be presumptuous to answer that question. Lol
• 
  9

  Circuit Organization Guidelines English (S-330-E Us)

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  circuit organization guidelines english (s-330-e us) 03/13.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  "To avoid giving the impression that money is very important to us"

  Now this is funny. I guess the congregation money grab, selling off properties, charging the circuit high prices for a paid off assembly hall, begging for money in the JW Broadcast, sending Bethelites into the "field", cutting the DO position, cutting the printing of the ragazines/books and the overall one way flow of money in this cult doesn't show how important money is to them. Really?

  FOLLOW THE MONEY!
• 
  15

  God's Rule Book ....The org is setting the scene....

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to my midweek meeting this week.

  very interesting....couple of things i noticed in the god's rule book, this week finishing up "the kingdom is born in heaven".

  there was a footnote that read:for many years the watch tower was intended mainly for members of the little flock for their personal edification.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  I agree with Sir82. I was always thinking..."what should I drink when I get home...red or white?"

  I don't think people are thinking at all. They just go through the motions and continue on with their social life. Waiting on Jah! No thinking involved.
• 
  7

  Jehovah Witnesses sects flock to Hudson Valley Town

  by ToesUp in

  1. social
  2. current

  interesting article regarding the properties owned by jw's and other sects.. shawangunk - this ulster county town, with a ridge of quartz mountains rising 2,000 feet, is a mecca for rock climbers.

  in recent years, religious groups have also begun flocking to the mid-hudson valley municipality of 15,000 residents, putting down roots and scooping up tax breaks.. in 2015, the 29 shawangunk properties with religious non-profit status were worth $148 million, up 85 percent since 1999.. “our town is nearly 30 percent exempt,” said town tax assessor curt schoeberl.

  “in the last five or 10 years, the largest tax-exempt group’s growth is religious.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  jehovah-witnesses-sects-flock-hudson-valley-town

  Interesting article regarding the properties owned by JW's and other sects.

  SHAWANGUNK - This Ulster County town, with a ridge of quartz mountains rising 2,000 feet, is a mecca for rock climbers. In recent years, religious groups have also begun flocking to the mid-Hudson Valley municipality of 15,000 residents, putting down roots and scooping up tax breaks.

  In 2015, the 29 Shawangunk properties with religious non-profit status were worth $148 million, up 85 percent since 1999.

  “Our town is nearly 30 percent exempt,” said town Tax Assessor Curt Schoeberl. “In the last five or 10 years, the largest tax-exempt group’s growth is religious. These groups are growing faster than the taxable part of the tax rolls.”

  “The only thing they don’t have on the property is an oil well,” Schoeberl quipped.

  

  The Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower Farm complex in Shawangunk (Photo: Frank Becerra Jr./The Journal News)

  Brimming with hundreds of millions of dollars in cash from the sale of it Brooklyn properties in recent years, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and their nonprofit arm, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, is amassing property all over the Hudson Valley. Watchtower owns about 1,500 acres in Shawangunk, where the group maintains a printing press for its religious literature, a working farm and refrigeration and ready-mix concrete plants.

  In the Orange County town of Warwick, Jehovah’s Witnesses are building a new headquarters, reportedly set to be 1.6 million square feet.

  In Putnam County, Watchtower owns nearly 750 acres — nearly all of it tax-exempt. Spread out on both sides of Route 22 in Patterson, the property is home to a massive education center, several apartment buildings, a farm, dining hall and several other buildings.

  

  The Jehovah's Witnesses property off Route 22 in Patterson, N.Y. (Photo: Frank Becerra Jr./The Journal News)

  In Shawangunk, Schoeberl said Watchtower gives back to its host community “in an unbelievable fashion.

  “They almost single-handedly built two town parks with their manpower and equipment,” he said. “I don’t think they’ve ever said no” to a request for help.

  Schoeberl said several Buddhist groups have also joined other nonprofit organizations in making their home in Shawangunk in recent years, buying large tracts of land for several temples.
• 
  30

  so let me get this straight.. the borg moves into their new corporate country club....

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with their luxurious lakeside condos.

  takes all the congregations funds promising new kingdom halls.

  but instead starts selling off kingdom halls ..then makes faithful old brothers and sisters drive 20-30 miles to another one, and .kicks out half the bethelites for only only tech savy college educated ones.can barely afford to send out printed publications anymore.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  I don't think everyone agrees with everything BUT they are using the words obedience and loyalty. If you complain, you are disobedient and disloyal.

  It's amazing how the rank and file just go along with everything the GB says. I personally could not do it.
• 
  13

  REAL Community service now allowed?

  by ab.ortega in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at watchtowers website there is an undated article under "helping the community" relating how in 2015, jw's from russia participated in the 'springtime beautification of the city'.

  it is not stated but more than likely this had to do with preparations for some assembly or something.

  a group of witness going out to clean the community just for goodwill - i don't see it happening.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  Community service, beards, ATM's at the assembly halls and dancing in the assembly halls? What's next Christmas is ok? Wow...WT must need money bad!
• 
  37

  More speculation on Kingdom Hall closers and money grabbing?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there continues to be more and more rumors of more halls being sold off some even taking the first offer.

  the borg trying to get thier bond money back from the court in san diego asap and there's been elders meetings about this consolidation.

  my questions is why after selling off all this real estate in new york for over a billion dollars are they still acting like thier broke?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  "At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."
  

  Kingdom Hall consolidations have already begun and are going to impact each and every congregation. It is and will happen soon. This is why this was printed a few short years ago. WT has been setting this up for YEARS. OBEDIENCE IS THE KEY! I wonder how many of these mindless drones would clean out their bank account and turn over their assets to WT?
  

  All of this does not seem practical because it is not. It is all about the money and you must obey like a mindless robot. FOLLOW THE MONEY!
  
• 
  42

  November 1, 2016 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Using and Maintaining Kingdom Halls

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  november 1, 2016 to all bodies of elders re: using and maintaining kingdom halls.

  table of contents.

  ownership .........................................................................................pars.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  If you are a lurker on this site and you don't think you are in a cult, read over the 11 pages of rules.

  So the Kingdom Hall is dedicated to Jah but we can sell it to a church, with NO problem. Hmm! This was done in our congregation. So it is frowned upon for me to attend a wedding or funeral at a church but WT can sell a dedicated to Jah KH to a church? You just can't make this stuff up!

  LURKERS...WAKE UP...YOU ARE IN A CULT! VOTE WITH YOUR FEET AND WALLET!
• 
  12

  97 Columbia Heights For Sale

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdyjb_v4gye.

  http://imgur.com/a/yhraf.

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ToesUp

  Fire Sale...everything must go!