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  Next weeks Watchtower. ' Who is leading God's people today'

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  next weeks watchtower.

  'who is leading god's people today' is quite incredible.

  i am so looking forward to blondie's comments on this one.

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  ToesUp

  Who is leading God's people today?

  I don't know but I am sure Watchtower will let us know. Thank you WT.
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  where was jehovahs hand in the matter?

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so jah can build a broadcasting studio in record time, provide a cool summer so the new bibles can be printed on time without the presses overheating, but cant deliver his people in russia?!.

  if jehovah is going to allow it what good are millions of letters and prayers then?

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  Jah must have been on a smoke break! lol
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  exJW from Galway, Ireland

  by Band Completely in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been reading many articles on here and other forums relating to exjws for some time.

  when my mother first got involved with the witnesses back in '77, my mother's mother and my father's mother, being the "good catholics that they were", gave my father "license" to do "whatever it takes" to stop her associating with these people.. due to "confirmation bias", (i.e.

  "satan will do whatever he can to stop you associating with us"), this "persecution" only convinced her that the witnesses had "the truth".

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  Wow....great post. Reading through it confirms the abusive, destructive and cruel organization my parents joined years ago. Similar abuses have been witnessed by our family as well. Our family brushes it off to..." imperfect men." That is fine, let them stay, we choose not to participate anymore. The abuse stops with our immediate family. When we saw our teenager beginning to feel the abuse, we decided that it was time to stop the pattern.

  There is NOTHING that you can say or do with the Elders, CO's or just the uber JW's that will make them change. They are part of a cult. They have to figure it out like we did.

  I worked a few years ago for a man who was a true narcissist (100%). I did a tremendous amount of research on these types of people and it lead me to realize that most JW's are narcissists. In my research, I learned that you CAN NOT change these people, you have to remove them from your life. Best advise was...."run don't walk." That is what my spouse and I did four years ago. Ran! We never looked back. We did not give anyone an explanation, reason, justification why we left. We just left! FAST! To this day no one truly knows why we left. They have tried so hard to engage us (aka...hang us). We realized that they are trying to get rid of us. Once you engage with these people they now have been given their narcissistic supply they need. Not engaging with them pisses them off more than anything else. It's been entertaining to watch!

  I know you can say..."but they (WT) are destroying peoples lives" and yes they are but it is starting to bite them in the ass. The internet is doing a fantastic job of exposing WT . The child abuse cases are hitting the news and the emotional abuse is rampant. If you are a newly interested one and you Google Jehovahs Witnesses a astronomical amount of negative info comes up. The growth of the org is diminishing. Young ones are leaving and the ones dying are not being replaced with new ones. It is a slow bleed for WT. They may never go away but they will be just a blip compared to what they once were. It's coming. It may take some time but it's coming.

  We have decided that life is short and we want to enjoy it. We are much happier out then we were in. How can that be? We were told we would be miserable. Not so! Once we got the abusive, destructive and cruel cult out of our lives, it was amazing how much better we felt.

  Karma is coming to get WT. It is already happening. WT loves $ and we have NEVER seen WT beg for $ the way they have over the past several years. Not asking for money used to be something, as JW's, that we were proud of . That doesn't exist anymore.

  I guess the point I am trying to make is this. Someone years ago told me..."never let anyone steal your joy." What a great saying. WT was stealing our joy and we stopped it. We now have JOY! Life won't be perfect but we are enjoying the life we have now. We are watching our family that gave WT their life. They have no joy. They don't have any education which caused them not to be able to save for retirement. They are struggling so much they can't even take a small vacation. WT told them back in 1969 that they would not need an education, the system is at it's end. Now they are all struggling with no hope in site. They are also facing the fact that they WILL die. We know one day we will die as well. We don't know what happens after that. We take one day at a time. Today we know we have THIS life and we are enjoying it. WT can't steal our joy, we WON'T let them!
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  Are their " wishy, washy" congregations...

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it may be an amazing thought for many but i am sure " wishy, washy" congregations exist.

  i am referring to congregations where the elders are idle in enforcing the g.bs guidelines on control.. i mean let's face it the organisation is an authoritarian regime, that works only if the elders enforce complete obedience to watchtower policies.

  sadly in the congregations i was associated with the elders excelled at enforcing loyalty and obedience.. however with age, people mellow, elders can become more compassionate, even assume the voice of reason?

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  It's all about who you know and who you are. $$$$ talks as well.
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  JW news release and deception - The "High-Profile Case" in Russia

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this interesting bit of news release propaganda by the jws on their website dated april 5, 2017.. "russia's supreme court begins high-profile case against jehovah's witnesses".

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/supreme-court-begins-case-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  my interest was piqued by the jw claim that the court hearing is a "high-profile case".

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  WT are "legends in their own minds." Nothing more!
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  At This Point In Time How Would You Feel If You Were Disfellowshipped?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  before my mother's death, it would have impacted me.

  now , i wouldn't care..

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  "If you are quiet and don't stir up other jws with our "doubts" no problems. Most of my family are dead or live far away and don't talk to their dyed-in-the wool jw friends around here, out of sight, out of mind."

  You got that one right. Keep your mouth shut and don't share your doubts with anyone and they will pretty much leave you alone. If you run into a Jw and don't start bashing the org and don't answer any prying questions, they will move along. JW's thrive on gossip. What pisses them off is when you won't give them any juicy tidbits or contribute to the gossip. It really annoys them. I love to annoy them! lol
  
  
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  Serena Williams Pregnant

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now that she has announced that she is 20 weeks pregnant and not married, what is her status in the cult?

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  ToesUp

  Let's hope she is out and keeps thanking Jah for all her wins. What reproach that would bring upon Jehovahs name! Oh my!

  I'm sure WT will turn a blind eye as long as she keeps the checks coming. It's happened before. WT has no shame!
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  Bearded students on Ministry school?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at last nights ministry school we had 2...yes that's right two that had parts and gave them with beards.. i found it interesting.

  i thought the consensus was that you couldn't have any extra privileges if you wore one.. maybe the school is different?.

  anyway, anybody else seen this in the u.s.?.

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  Legalism at it's best. Ray Franz wrote about legalism in COC. Big problem within WT.
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  At This Point In Time How Would You Feel If You Were Disfellowshipped?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  before my mother's death, it would have impacted me.

  now , i wouldn't care..

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  We have faded 4 years ago. I am sure the JW rumor mill has done a number on our reputation. We are probably cheating on each other and using drugs and alcohol to drown our sorrows. lol We are actually doing better than ever. No cheating, drugs or alcohol. Let them think what they want. They are no longer part of our daily life so being DF'd would not matter much to us anyway. Family has distanced themselves (not that they gave us much attention before we faded). The important thing, is we are happy now. Happier than we were when we were in. There was always this nagging feeling of, something just is not right here. Watching how the majority of the Elders and most of the CO's handle the congregation is sad. Once you put men in judgement of others lives, things will not go well. We are just hoping that Karma will get WT for all the damage they have done and continue to do to peoples lives.

  Contentment and happiness comes from within. If someone (family or friends) no longer wants to be in our life, than they can hit the exit. We are free and they are stuck in a cult.
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  JW Double Standards and Hypocrisy in the Congregation!!!

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am sure you have stories as well of elders being a hard ass on many, yet turning a blind eye to the 'sins' of their own family or close connections.

  cheers everyone!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gma1auaur2o.

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  Yup...it's the JW way. Do as I say, not as I do.

  We had an Elder that was cheating on his wife, all the while he was on our friends JC (they were having marital problems). The Elder was a total Ass to both of them and cruel. Shortly after DF'ing them, he was DF'ed. So much for Jah's holy spirit, eh?