my wife was looking through some old diary`s that we have lying around and found a ph.# of an old friend (jw) that we knew over 15 years ago .we were always curious as to what has happened to her as she was a dear friend for many years when we were in the "truth".
so she rings the number (,do you still have the same # that you had 15 yrs ago ?
) and this friend was a bit of a "gypsy" type so she wasn`t expecting much when she rang.. to cut a long story short we all had a good conversation we had been trying to find out about her all these years with no success and she was also trying to find out about us all these years with no success ,we had moved interstate.. nothing was said about religion though i suspect she is still associated with the borg.
We bumped into a couple of people from our old hall last week. They both hugged us and asked how we were doing. I guess some don't really care. JW's are a mixed bag of "nuts." lol
I think a lot of JW's got to the KH like they would go to their local bar. It's a place to hang out and chit chat with "friends." I truly believe that most of our family attend just for the social aspect. Nothing more.
facebook is great for finding old friends.
i found a friend who is an ex witness who i haven't seen for about 7 years coz she left the society and we lost touch and i got in contact with her the other day on facebook and she came for tea earlier and we had a great time talking about experiences of the wts and it's strange doctrines and remembering our school days.
we chatted for about 5 hours and are going to keep in touch.
Great news. Goes to show you, more are leaving the cult every day.
just read this over on jw talk:.
will we be willing to leave unbelieving mates and unresponsive kids behind when given direction on what to do???
what about grandkids who fall under their parents who are not witnesses???
I believe the most disturbing thing about comments like this is, some of the JW's actually seem to be looking forward to the destruction of loved ones. I find this sick to the core! The hatred some of these "witnesses of Jehovah" are displaying is something that really has ramped up. The GB and WT have the rank and file all pumped up to actually witness the destruction of children, mates and even grandchildren. They seem amazingly happy (almost giddy) about it.
so...while chatting with my ultra "spiritual elder" father on the phone this afternoon, i couldn't resist using that line!.
i had sent him that video of the recent convention showing brothers and sisters dancing to the "kingdom song" and waving their illuminated phones and arms in the air like some sort of revival church concert.
(perhaps someone can post that link to that thread again here?).
"She'll never leave her social group and I don't want her to do that. Where else would she go? But she has cut the money off since realizing that they got BILLION$ from the sale of Brooklyn real estate. Yeah, MOM!"
We know several still ins that go to all JW events but don't donate a dime. They are strictly there to keep "friends" and family. I have actually had one tell me that he will NOT donate a dime so WT can pay to fight pedophile law suits.
LURKERS: IF WATCHTOWER IS HOLDING YOU HOSTAGE, BY FEAR OF LOOSING FAMILY. VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS! HIT EM WHERE IT HURTS ($$$)!
so...while chatting with my ultra "spiritual elder" father on the phone this afternoon, i couldn't resist using that line!.
i had sent him that video of the recent convention showing brothers and sisters dancing to the "kingdom song" and waving their illuminated phones and arms in the air like some sort of revival church concert.
(perhaps someone can post that link to that thread again here?).
"Then he said "But things change, and like older teachings, we as Jehovah's people are refined and grow. Yes, even teachings that were wrong are now adjusted"
So how would your Dad feel if things like blood transfusions were "refined and adjusted" the day after he lost a loved one due to refusing blood? Things are a little different when they happen to YOU.
Frustrating as hell when dealing with these people.
does anyone know why the written review was stopped?
i relished the half hour silence they'd give you to "write down your answers", time i spend doodling or thinking up cool song lyrics..
Watchtower doesn't allow oral! lol
the circuit overseer this week on tuesday gave a talk on loyalty to jehovah.
i listed 5 points.
i only remember 3.. one was the typical association with disfellowshipped relatives, the next was loyalty to friends over jehovah by not reporting wrongdoing to elders.
If WT was not having a problem with loyalty, they would not be giving a talk on loyalty. WT is worried, as they should be. Karma is on their tail!
Thanks for the update.
..............if their child pursues higher education and lives on campus.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ob4wa/interesting_tidbit_from_elders_school/?st=jc214ok2&sh=cfa8af95.
"What a grand excuse to get out of eldering. "Sorry, boys. My kid's going to college. I will sit down and be a regular publisher. Last I heard, it's not a judicial matter. See ya."
Absoulutly!!
is it because we were in the cult watchtower compound that we talk about being ex-jw's when we stop being active?
i have never heard anyone say that i was an ex-catholic or an ex-lutheran or an ex-baptist.
they just stop going to their church and don't talk about it.. years after not stepping inside a kingdom hell, many of us still have to talk about being ex-jw's.
This forum has been kinda like a therapy for me. It has helped me feel like I am not the only one going through all this. Thank you everyone!!!
..............if their child pursues higher education and lives on campus.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ob4wa/interesting_tidbit_from_elders_school/?st=jc214ok2&sh=cfa8af95.
I will believe that one when I see it. That threat has always been out there. As long as the Elder has his nose up the right ass*s and steps it up a whole bunch, he will be ok. I'm thinking only the average Elder who gives his honest opinion and can't do much for WT or the congregation will be let go. Even then, WT can't even drum up new Elders, they can't afford to let any go. I sure would like to see where some Elders loyalty lies when it comes to choosing Education over his position.
