I'm a bit confused...............I thought this Forum was all about Ex J-Dubs?
Why do you still go to the J-Dub Club?
i noticed this during the wt study on sunday.. 1 cor 15:23: "but each one in his own proper order: christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the christ during his presence.
"the greek word for presence is "parousia", which needs no explanation here as to how wtbts views this word versus the rest of the world.. what i noticed was the striking contradiction made just a few verses later.. 1 cor 15:51,52: "look!
i tell you a sacred secret: we will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet.
I'm a bit confused...............I thought this Forum was all about Ex J-Dubs?
Why do you still go to the J-Dub Club?
can a witness get in trouble for attending an inactive family members wedding?
just wondering because i am getting married this summer and my mom tried to blackmail me by saying she and other family members would attend but only if i returned to the meeting.
i told her i am not going back to the meetings.
When one of my nieces got married our son and his J-Dub bride didn't come to the church. However they both showed up for the "Free" supper and drinks at the hall after the church ceremony. Real funny when the speaker gets up at the mic. to say Grace before the meal. I thought the bitch was going to hide under the table. Usually her eyes start rolling in the back of her head and all you see is "white".
Strange......Very strange.
dear non-jw:.
do you have a friend or family member who is studying?
there are definitely valid reasons to be concerned, be it shunning, the many failed doomsday predictions, the risks of refusing blood transfusions, the organizations unrepentant mishandling of child abuse, the stance of higher education, holidays, and everyone outside the organization.. however, how you express your concern to them could make all the difference.
It is always said they will have no where to go if they are DF'd. Freinds and family will shun then. Well yes maybe J-Dub family and J-Dub freinds(they were never freinds anyway) will do the shunning.
We are the "Real" family(non J-Dubs) which are not going to be doing the "Shunning". Not to mention ALL of their Non J-Dub freinds they used to have...They won't be doin' the "Shunning".
What a mixed up bunch of pricks. It's amazing with all the astranged shooters and serial killers there are always running around, like shooting innocent kids in schools, or opening fire in malls, etc. ........That someone doesn't say that's enough and just go ballistic in one of those J-Dub Clubs.
They are a waste of skin and really continue fucking up good families. Yet they have the balls to go door to door and act so innocent and "Loving".
dear non-jw:.
do you have a friend or family member who is studying?
there are definitely valid reasons to be concerned, be it shunning, the many failed doomsday predictions, the risks of refusing blood transfusions, the organizations unrepentant mishandling of child abuse, the stance of higher education, holidays, and everyone outside the organization.. however, how you express your concern to them could make all the difference.
Thanks for posting that........
However after watching it, it now seems hopeless to get our son back to "Real" life.
southern california:.
monday pervy monday: ex-teacher's aide, butt slapping, tbn, mormons, jehovah witnesses.
by matt coker mon., nov. 24 2014 at 6:02 am 3 comments categories: court, crime-iny, gimme that oc religion, long beach, school daze .
Can't they ALL be charged with an obstruction of justice?
how do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
Many here are "born ins " who can give you first hand in-depth knowledge of the way JWs think and how to avoid triggering the "cult personality".
Yes all we need to know is how to "Un-trigger" his "Cult Personality"
a close jw friend of mine, got married this weekend.ever since he and i meet (13 years ago) when we were both 18 we've been close and we've experienced different life experiences together.. our qualities, have complemented each other well over the years..he the voice of responsibility and reservedness, & i the voice of spontaneity and passion.i taught him about life and he taught me about perseverance through trial.. i care about justice, he cares about reputation.he is a better person then i will ever be, but so stricken by society.. i always stuck my neck out for him, but our friendship was the thorn in his reputations side.he was on the path to mts, and i was on the path of frivolity.despite all this.. when the 2 of us were together, free from the scrutiny of the outside world he was himself, and he was a great friend.
though naive about much, he always tried to do what he could to be a friend.. i was there when he and his now wife first started dating.. i envisioned him marrying her, and my wife & i spending many enjoyable times with them as a couple.. shortly after they meet my wife & i learned ttatt.. i explained my findings to him as i did with all my friends and family.
he being a person, whom i perceived to have great deal of biblical knowledge, i expected valiant effort coming from him to "help me" see where i had erred.all i got was a email with 3 irrelevant watchtower articles & some even more irrelevant scriptures.. i would have surely been his best man, but instead another mutual jw friend was asked.i am not da'd or df'd but this is the pseudo non-invitation that he sent :.
What would it be like to just fire out a question to my J-Dubbed Son?
Something Like;
Son, have you ever heard of the term "Love Bombing"?
Then see how he replies. Or am I just looking up a dead horses ass?
a close jw friend of mine, got married this weekend.ever since he and i meet (13 years ago) when we were both 18 we've been close and we've experienced different life experiences together.. our qualities, have complemented each other well over the years..he the voice of responsibility and reservedness, & i the voice of spontaneity and passion.i taught him about life and he taught me about perseverance through trial.. i care about justice, he cares about reputation.he is a better person then i will ever be, but so stricken by society.. i always stuck my neck out for him, but our friendship was the thorn in his reputations side.he was on the path to mts, and i was on the path of frivolity.despite all this.. when the 2 of us were together, free from the scrutiny of the outside world he was himself, and he was a great friend.
though naive about much, he always tried to do what he could to be a friend.. i was there when he and his now wife first started dating.. i envisioned him marrying her, and my wife & i spending many enjoyable times with them as a couple.. shortly after they meet my wife & i learned ttatt.. i explained my findings to him as i did with all my friends and family.
he being a person, whom i perceived to have great deal of biblical knowledge, i expected valiant effort coming from him to "help me" see where i had erred.all i got was a email with 3 irrelevant watchtower articles & some even more irrelevant scriptures.. i would have surely been his best man, but instead another mutual jw friend was asked.i am not da'd or df'd but this is the pseudo non-invitation that he sent :.
I naively believed my love for my son and his love for me would be stronger than the rules of this manmade religion. I was wrong, very wrong.
I read your story and it's like I wrote it....Sort of. I can't see me waking him up in my lifetime, I'm pretty much out of steam. When I or my wife would confront him it just ends up with him preaching and quoting some garbage(that just boggles my mind), then closes in an argument. Most all of our relatives and freinds(which are non J-Dubbs) make it seem like we are being cruel to our son. I don't get it. We lost a lot of people that were our freinds.......I guess they really were never our freinds. We don't bother with most of our relatives either. People are acting like it's no big deal and we are basicly making a bigger thing than it is. I plainly tell them "If and when this happens to one of your own kids.....Come tell me how you feel then". The big thing we worry about is the little girl our son had with his ex-girlfreind which is now 4 years old. His ex-girlfreind was best freinds with his new J-Dub bride for over 8 years prior. Good Ol' Devil Woman swooped in like a black widow and trapped him in the web. My wife and I see our little grand daughter through the ex-girlfreind quite a bit. Through the court custody battles he said he was not going to be taking her to KingDumb Hall. Well that was a bullshit lie like everything else about them. They drag her to that shit-hole any time he has "His Time" to have her.
I constantly worry our little Grand daughter is becoming so messed up and nothing we can do about it. One thing for sure is my wife and I give her Christmas's, Birthdays, Easters, Halloween,........You name it.
I think I'll be out of life before I can win a fight with these bastards.
a close jw friend of mine, got married this weekend.ever since he and i meet (13 years ago) when we were both 18 we've been close and we've experienced different life experiences together.. our qualities, have complemented each other well over the years..he the voice of responsibility and reservedness, & i the voice of spontaneity and passion.i taught him about life and he taught me about perseverance through trial.. i care about justice, he cares about reputation.he is a better person then i will ever be, but so stricken by society.. i always stuck my neck out for him, but our friendship was the thorn in his reputations side.he was on the path to mts, and i was on the path of frivolity.despite all this.. when the 2 of us were together, free from the scrutiny of the outside world he was himself, and he was a great friend.
though naive about much, he always tried to do what he could to be a friend.. i was there when he and his now wife first started dating.. i envisioned him marrying her, and my wife & i spending many enjoyable times with them as a couple.. shortly after they meet my wife & i learned ttatt.. i explained my findings to him as i did with all my friends and family.
he being a person, whom i perceived to have great deal of biblical knowledge, i expected valiant effort coming from him to "help me" see where i had erred.all i got was a email with 3 irrelevant watchtower articles & some even more irrelevant scriptures.. i would have surely been his best man, but instead another mutual jw friend was asked.i am not da'd or df'd but this is the pseudo non-invitation that he sent :.
J-Dubbed ...so sorry that happed to you, I can
relate to your words as I am experiencing that
sort of evil thing too.......hard to believe that your
own flesh & blood ..... can do this!
The thing is I don't believe he is doing this with his "own" mind. I think he brainwashed/under mind control so bad that he doesn't realize.
a close jw friend of mine, got married this weekend.ever since he and i meet (13 years ago) when we were both 18 we've been close and we've experienced different life experiences together.. our qualities, have complemented each other well over the years..he the voice of responsibility and reservedness, & i the voice of spontaneity and passion.i taught him about life and he taught me about perseverance through trial.. i care about justice, he cares about reputation.he is a better person then i will ever be, but so stricken by society.. i always stuck my neck out for him, but our friendship was the thorn in his reputations side.he was on the path to mts, and i was on the path of frivolity.despite all this.. when the 2 of us were together, free from the scrutiny of the outside world he was himself, and he was a great friend.
though naive about much, he always tried to do what he could to be a friend.. i was there when he and his now wife first started dating.. i envisioned him marrying her, and my wife & i spending many enjoyable times with them as a couple.. shortly after they meet my wife & i learned ttatt.. i explained my findings to him as i did with all my friends and family.
he being a person, whom i perceived to have great deal of biblical knowledge, i expected valiant effort coming from him to "help me" see where i had erred.all i got was a email with 3 irrelevant watchtower articles & some even more irrelevant scriptures.. i would have surely been his best man, but instead another mutual jw friend was asked.i am not da'd or df'd but this is the pseudo non-invitation that he sent :.
I can relate....
Our son married a J-Dub and never even told us about it. Then they had a baby girl which is now two, and never told us about that either.