I found this interesting little tidbit from on an online e-book on Christian occultism. Whoo boy, imagine if the dubs could see this.
Enishi
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Jehovah, regent of the Moon
by Enishi ini found this interesting little tidbit from on an online e-book on christian occultism.
whoo boy, imagine if the dubs could see this.
http://www.rosicrucian.com/rcc/rcceng14.htm#part9
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I jumped out of a plane 15,000 feet!
by Sirona insome of you doubted me when i said i was going to do a skydive in las vegas....well i did it!.
i was scared s**tless.
they tell you all the dangers beforehand and its something like 1:50,000 die and 1:1750 have a serious injury.
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Enishi
Now I want to skydiving as well. :)
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Do any of you start humming a Kingdon tune out of the blue?
by Singing Man indo any of you start humming a kingdon tune out of the blue?
i do from time to time, i love music you can take any key and there will be a kingdom song that starts with it.
that is how i learned how to play a harmonica was by remembering the tunes of jehovah's witness's.
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Enishi
No, I never hum any of the Kingdumb songs. Sometimes though, when I'm at the meeting, after hearing to the songs they start playing over and over in my head! I'll be driving to work or reading a book, and the godawful nails on chalkboard music starts up again. ERRRHHH! It makes me want to take a hammer to my forehead. Having to listen to Barny songs over and over is far more merciful...
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Where's Mithras ???
by skiz ini copied a page of info on mithras from a thread on this site and would like to go back to read some more but i can't remember where it was.
anybody know the thread name ?.
plus, if that thread doesn't have sources for its info, does anybody know a well researched source for mithras info ?.
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Enishi
Some of the research I've done seems to suggest that Jesus was originally a Nazorean Essence, a teacher who lived before the time suggested in the Gospels. Those who formulated the early Christian religion took elements from Mithraism and the other Mystery Schools because they all shared similar ideas, and applied these allegorically to Jesus. The fact that the Gospels are not literally true doesn't mean that they are some sort of evil conspiracy as people have suggested. Although people may scoof at them today, many of the ancient myths (even the seemingly ridicolous ones) were the outer form of complex spiritual teachings. For instance, the Bible is literally a gold mine of occult teachings, even though most don't realize it.
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Enishi
I scored a 20. I can't help but feel like the oddball now...
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Do You Consider The Ones You Left Behind In The Organization as Bro/Sis?
by AwakenedAndFree indo you consider the ones you left behind in the organization as brothers and sisters?.
the ones who don't shun me are my brothers and sisters!
i have a friend/sister who is still in the organization.
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Enishi
I've had some good friends in the kingdom hall who I was happy to call my brothers/sisters, people who were wonderful in spite of being witnesses. I hope that they'll still be friendly to me when I do one day leave, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Based on what I've read on this forum, I'll probably end up being shocked by the behavior of some of them when I fade out. Some of the people in the congregation though, I never once thought of them as being brothers or sisters, and I'm sure they didn't feel the same way about me.
Even for those I'm friendly with, I don't feel that I can call them brothers or sisters. Back when I was still a loyal dub, the people who were friendliest to me were always my non-witness buddies. They were the ones who actually sought out to associate with me. I would always have to make plans myself with friends in the congregation in order to do anything with them, they were always busy with their various cliches and I was the oddball out of the group.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-23-03 WT Study
by blondie inbut we certainly should be compassionate and understanding when dealing with those who have more difficulty in exercising it, even if their lack of self-control causes us some personal discomfort.
but people differ by nature.
it is what he did that caused the death of 2 innocent people.. remember david and his sin of adultery with bath-sheba.
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Enishi
As always Blondie, great work!
Here's one part that particularily caught my eye...
One of Jehovah's Witnesses living in Germany was employed as a technical communications clerk. His work included monitoring some 30 different television and radio programs. When interferences occurred, he had to give his attention to the program in order to pinpoint the problem. He says: "Interferences invariably seemed to occur just at the wrong time, just when scenes of violence or sex were being shown. The bad scenes seemed to stay in my head for days if not weeks, as though they had been branded into my brain." He admits that this had a negative effect on his spirituality: "I tend to be rather hotheaded, so scenes of violence made it difficult for me to exercise self-control. The sex scenes caused tension between me and my wife. I had a daily battle. In order not to lose the battle, I decided to look for a new job, even if it meant less pay. Not long ago I succeeded in finding one. My wish has been fulfilled."
I can remember reading this part two weeks ago and rolling my eyes. This guy is either pathetically weak minded, or he was greatly exxagerating things. Sometimes I wonder if these experiences that get printed in the Watchtower are just people elaborating on their silly day to day dub lives, or are completely made up. Although then again, I can imagine a dub quiting his job over something so utterly ridicolous. I'll bet he thought the demons were manipulating the radio waves.
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Massachusetts backs gay marriage
by ignored_one inhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3281017.stm
massachusetts backs gay marriage the us state of massachusetts has ruled in favour of gay marriage.
the state's supreme judicial court ruled that that barring same-sex couples from the benefits of civil marriage was "unconstitutional.
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Enishi
The sooner the rest of the country follows massachusetts, the better.
Of course, we can just imagine how the WTS will respond to all this, they'll try to paint what is infact a triumph of human rights as a sign that "morality" is on the decline and the end is near.
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Getting drunk a sin?
by Coop Man ini have a pretty interesting perspective on this.....especially since i once had all of my privledges removed because i had admitted to an elder that i was hungover..... the scriptures state that drunkards will not inherit gods' kingdom, nor will gluttons.... gluttony is the practice of over-eating, much the same is being a drunkard is one who is continuously drunk.
so, in my feeble mind, getting drunk "once-in-a-while" is not a sin, just the same as overeating at mcdonalds or at grandma's house is not a sin.. am i incorrect in my reasoning?.
thanks to all participants.
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Enishi
I almost never drink alcohol. I don't why, just never had the urge to. Still, I do like the occasional tequila or wine.
The Bible is not the only religious text or tradition that condemns drunkeness, Buddhism for instance forbids monks from consuming any wine whatsover, the reason being that it is detrimental to meditation and spiritual cultivation.
I don't think getting a little drunk in a great long while is any big deal, but something that should be avoided. Personally though, I find gluttony more disgusting...
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Where are we all going.....What happens........?
by ScoobySnax ini watch families crowding around a loved one in hospital whom i'm taking care of who die......sometimes they're old, but that doesn't diminish their pain, still the hurt is palpable.
sometimes they are young, this increases their pain and ours even more.
a death occurs, we feel hopeless, they are distraught beyond belief..... what to say?
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Enishi
Great posts everyone.
I agonize quite a bit over what the truth of our lives is. I've read lots of different views on what happens after we die, some which seem to be backed up by personal experience, but I simply don't know for sure. All I have is this deep conviction, an inner feeling that there must be some sort of higher purpose to us and this universe, that there is more to our short lives. My personal thought is that we were infact the ones who created the universe, that our present lives are the constantly recycling expression of spirit that allows existence to become conscious of itself. Human evolution and evolution of the universe go hand in hand, as both are the ever learning dream of consciousness. Suffering is the necessary opposite through which life must grow.
However, just formulating these intellectual interpretations is not enough, I want to experience it directly. I refuse to ever give up the search, I refuse to believe that we are nothing more than rotting lumps of carbon that accidentally (and tragically) became consciousness.