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  My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee

  by opusdei1972 in

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  today i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.

  she told them that she will confirm if she will go.

  however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?

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  Perhaps they will have a third waiting then, but the principle remains the same. If she is willing to lie and play good girl for an hour in front of them then they have nothing to df her on
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  My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee

  by opusdei1972 in

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  2. beliefs

  today i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.

  she told them that she will confirm if she will go.

  however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?

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  What sir82 says is true.  There is, however, an another way to deal with it, a cheaper one. 

  Go ahead and go. If its only two its not a judicial committee, they are "investigating".  She can sit down and lie to their mizerable faces. They will have no proof. There will be no committee. I stopped feeling bad about lying to this org right around the time i realized there was no panda waiting for me in paradise.
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  JW's NOT identified by a symbol!!

  by The Searcher in

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  *** km 9/74 p. 8 question box ***as jehovahs servants we.....................do not want to give others the impression that the tetragrammaton is the symbol of jehovahs witnesses as a whole.

  we have no organizational symbol to identify ourselves but show that we are jehovahs christian witnesses by living in harmony with gods will.john 13:35.. don't you just love those "old" lights?.

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  Guess those ugly ass blue squares on kingdom halls all need to come down...
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  Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

  here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

  and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

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  Welcome, cappytan, to the real world.
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  1 Timothy 5:8 - Providing for one's household....materially or spiritually?

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the searcher brought this scripture up on another thread:.

  (1 timothy 5:8) "certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.

  " [disowned jehovah].

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  To be direct, yes i have heard the same application but its far from new.  And an homest open minded reading of the scripture makes it clear that spritually was not the topic being discussed.
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  Legal scholars: JW court cases before Supreme Court were "accidental wins."

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  the outcomes of jehovah's witness court cases, to most first amendment scholars, the witness successes in court, especially the supreme court, were accidental.

  legal scholars have uniformly dismissed the witnesses' methods for bringing about first amendment cases, referring to their legal successes as mere unintended consequences of fanatical preaching.

  for example, legal scholar bernard schwartz noted that jehovah's witnesses, "who became involved in trouble with the law were only seeking to propagate their unpopular creed.

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  I remember those!  I also remember the pioneer identification cards.  Its funny but i had never paid attention to their disaperance
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  Hi everyone, this is my first post.

  by John Aquila in

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  2. friends

  hey everyone, this is my first post.

  i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..

  it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.

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  Welcome to the board!  Money isnt everything...but then im broke and thats what poor people say :P  

  @jwleaks-  some may not realize thats a picture of perez hilton and not an actual photo corroborating your story.  A satire warning may be needed ;)
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  Just ask simple questions and make street witnesses move along

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you don't have to know much to talk to jw's and show them they don't want to really discuss the matters.they consider a discussion on the matter they are pushing to be "confrontational.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfw_txpmsj8.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqtadagucq.

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  Sail away, I respectfully could not disagree more.  When i was a believeing  dubbie i would have welcomed a chance to fairly discuss in the maner the first video presented. It would have been an excellent witness and a chance to represent the goodnews in fromt a wide audience.  Perhaps its a bit different in the sense that when you give talks you assume you are being recorded and such anyway and i grew accustomed to it, but i wouldnt mind my son being recorded. I always understood that when i stepped into public i was "on stage before men and angels".   These people purposly choose the most public places to witness!  They do volume studies to ensure there is suffient foot traffic to justfy putting a cart there.  Its simply unrealistic to think there is any expectation of 'privacy' (as the one young witness claimed) or that in these very purposly public places that you are not 'on the record' so to speak.  
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  Watchtower doctrine: Judges 1:19 (God couldn't defeat the Iron Chariots)

  by southwest in

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  2. bible

  this weeks assigned bible reading is judges 1-4. i have never noticed judges 1:19 before which reads in the nwt as:.

  jehovah was with judah, and they took possession of the mountainous region, but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain,* because they had war chariots with iron scythes.

  but in the kj as:.

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  Either way you translate its the same net result.  Either the desert couldnt drive them out or the people the desert god was backing couldnt drive them out... But he could make the walls of jerico fall.....?  In egypt he could take the wheels of the chariots... But not now...?  None of it makes sense because its all legend and folklore.
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  Just ask simple questions and make street witnesses move along

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you don't have to know much to talk to jw's and show them they don't want to really discuss the matters.they consider a discussion on the matter they are pushing to be "confrontational.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfw_txpmsj8.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqtadagucq.

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  On a personal level i didnt appreciate the clowns who went into the kh and passed out pamphlets, making asses of themselves in the process...

  This had a much different feel. I had no problem at all with the manor of approach or the general way he carried it out.  As a small critique, when he cited a labratory experiment that made something from nothing and the young man said "no it didnt" it devolved into a very childish "yes it did" "no it didnt" thing with no evidance or logic either way.  Aside from that brief moment all i saw was a guy asking a young man why he felt as he did, something every witness SHOULD welcome!  Instead these three were extremly ill prepared and embarrassed themselves.  It may well have some done good for the younger one in fact. Bravo. I wish when he was reasoning with him regarding all the other gods men have made up he would have brought that full circle!  He had the you man admitting (as any witness would) that zeus and other gods et all are fabrications of man...he needed to simply spring the trap and ask WHY or WHAT PROOF he had that the desert god was different than zeus or appolo and let him twist around trying to explain.

  Unfortunatly i thought his choices of topic for the second video was rather ill concived. Laying responsiblity on any one religious group or specific person of a religious group for a lone particular homeless man is, frankly, ignorant.  If he used that one man as a general example and asked what witnesses do to help others in general perhaps it would have made some impact in highlighting the lack of love for fellow man but even at that it would have been difficult.  Again, i respect that he wasnt overly confrontational about it and he did move on to another topic but that bit just didnt work anywhere near as well as simply questioning them about why they believed as they do regarding the cover of the mag they were offering.