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  LOL Deut 13:1-5

  by Jonathan Drake in

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  omg i've never read this before or if i did i never caught it... .

  13 [a]if a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder,2 and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them, 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the lord your god is testing you to find out if you love the lord your god with all your heart and with all your soul.

  4 you shall follow the lordyour god and fear him; and you shall keep his commandments, listen to his voice, serve him, and cling to him.

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  Yhwh is the desert god. THOR is god of storms. Dont insult the thunderer.
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  A new low in public shaming (and groveling)

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a local elderette at my former hall (the same type person who posts selfies while out in "service") posted this public admonishment.

  the responses are so pathetic.

  these are all adults, but they still act like scared children:.

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  Rotfl i LOVE the responses! So passive agressive, so "i dont really give a damn". And only two people bothered to respond at all. Apathy at its finest
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  Will this Memorial be our last?

  by pixel in

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  2. bible

  they just put up the march km 2014 on the private website.

  most of it is same-old-same-old, with info here and there about the memorial.. somebody here might post the march km for all to see, i wont.. i just wanted to share the paragraph from page 2 q&a anticle: will you seize the opportunity?

  upcoming memorial enables us to show gratitude .

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  I hope its my last one ;)
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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  Wow fink you really jumped out there on that. Of course you could be DF'd for attending your df'd sons weding. Is it automatic.... No of course not, but it is certainly possible.

  So unessary to take such a hardline on someone elses decision that bears no impact whatsoever on your life.

  James, glad to make your aquantiance. I only recently got out of the elder thing myself. Huge burden lifted! Hope it all works out for you and look forward to speaking with you more
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  Atheism

  by Jonathan Drake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recent events and book reads (one suggested by cofty i believe- thank you) have lead me to the only logical and acceptable conclusion:.

  there is no god.. simple logical reasoning: matter can neither me created or destroyed.

  so the amount of mass in the universe is constant.

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  This is precisely why i worship Thor. We see his lightning. We hear his thunder. Ergo he is real.

  Happy Thorday, btw.

  Satire of course but its more logical and has more evidance than worshipping the desert god of ancient nomadic semites.
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  "BRAZEN CONDUCT" The current way of enforcing disciplinary action.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the penalty of this charge??

  yes, disfellowshipping.. bad association?

  excessive time at work?

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  Yes and no, its always been true that you could be disfellowshipped for anything three elders agree on. The term brazen conduct didnt make it any more or less easy to do that.

  i didnt see any rush locally to use that term as a catch all. It was already fairly easy to reprove or bash people without it.
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  to date JWism has defined my life and i hate that TRUTH

  by oompa in

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  2. friends

  and i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.

  but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .

  how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?

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  It is bitter sweet to reread his posts and know he is gone. I only knew him a little from this board but i am friends with some of those who knew him IRL and know they still miss him. Its both wonderful and sad beyond reconing that we have his words forever with us....

  its people and situations like oomps that frustrate me when i see threads about an end to the "shunning" in the org. This is a real life example, as tenacious noted, of the terrible effects of that cult policy and it isnt going anywhere. There are countless people cut off from their families and friends, their only support circles, for no damn reason other to prove loyalty to the cult.

  on behalf of all those you have deemed the walking dead,

  F**** you wtbs.
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  "Moses, by far the meekest and most humble person" ??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. bible

  seriously, how can it be ok for someone to say of themselves that they are "by far the meekest and most humble person" on the earth?.

  numbers 12:3 'now the man moses was by far the meekest of all the men on the face of the earth'.

  yes, moses was so humble that he told everyone about it!!?!.

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  Lol all funny and valid observations but im sure the dubbies would say "oh moses didnt make that up, god told him what to write!"
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  It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step

  by poopie in

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  i'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.

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  _Morpheus

  @juan, the position you suggest already exists. Once a year they (congregation elders) are directed to reach out to all df'd ones and encourage them to return. Thts decades old. A recent CO visit had the elders personally inviting inactive ones to the meeting.

  None of that is new or a special ministry or reflective of a shift towards laxing their stance on former members.
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  Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .

  they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.

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  I think people who are christian would argue that jesus isnt saying 'believe in me or i will condem you". They would argue that we are already condemned and jesus is offering to save...

  the problem is the original condemnation comes from the person jesus is claiming to save us from, either himself or his father, depending on your brand of christianity. Its all so obtuse, that we are condemed for something we didnt do (adam and eves sin) and that sin from thousands of years ago means we deserve to die unless another guy dies and makes it ok. So because the other guy died the sky daddy can 'forgive us' but couldnt just forgive us because we didnt do anything wrong in the first place.....

  Btw the WT article that prompted this thread was a misprint. A letter to the BoE says it should read "jesus shaves!"