Posts by _Morpheus

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Setback

by EdenOne in

i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

then she decided she would attend the memorial.

Eden, i cannot press the "like" button when someone says they want to die. Ive learned through others mistakes that its not always hyperbole or 'just an expression'. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Dont ever waste something so precious as YOUR life. Dont ever hurt those that love you in such final, drastic way.

I have been and still am in a similar situation. I spent three years playing tug of war with my wifes cult feelings. I tried and tried. I would get her outside interests to help ease her away and distract her. I would drop nuggets of truth about the truth. I would do everything i could to make our family more appealing than the cult. In the end its what she knows and it takes its toll. I havnt ever been able to make permanent progress and frankly its gotten worse. The return to the cult is like going back to a drug. Shes more addicted everytime she gets sucked back in.

While we all want to believe that every jw is brainwashed and would wake up if they were presented with just the right aspect of TTATT, the real truth is: its also a choice. Some people LIKE the cult. some people WANT the cult and we simply cannot force them to see it our way. Accepting that is just as much truth as learning that the org isnt gods representative on earth.

I feel your pain, in my own way, i live your pain, in my own way. nobodys life is without regret and sorrow. Dont ever give in to it. You have the power to make choices and live happy despite whatever obstacles there may be. Choose to keep fighting for her or choose to let her be a jw bit whatever choice you make i hope its to choose to keep living!

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by mrquik in

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i can't help but think how many committee meetings this photo would have generated.

this is on the caribbean side of cozumel at a quaint bar called mezcalito's.

this side of the island is virtually deserted.

_Morpheus

I will take his word for it ;)

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Just sent a letter...at 1am, after drinking a lot of Scotch

by tresdecu in

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sent to the production company that made 'going clear' (documentary about scientology).

edit: i sent an email...not an actual letter.

dear mr gibney,.

_Morpheus

Very nicely written and expressed

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Candace Conti - Consequence for Elders

by The Searcher in

bodies of elders around the world will soon (tm) receive a nicely worded letter from the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, telling them that local elders are now responsible for ensuring that no perverts are allowed to be alone with any children on any kind of witness business, otherwise, the boe will be accountable to the courts - not the org!.

however, if the elders are aware that bro.

& sister oblivious sometimes ask bro.

_Morpheus

I understand that your main point was to highlight that nothing will change with regard to informing the congregation of a child rapiest in their midst, and i agree that will not change, but i also dont think there will be a letter informing elders of their personal responsibility or to avoid putting a pedophile with child for any sort of congregation buissnes. The reality is that policy already exsists and they wouldnt want to scare elders into not serving by highlighting potential legal ramifications. They also will take into account that the secretary in the condi case didnt follow their directions by infoming the next congreation that he was pedo. As sad as it is this case alone wont prompt changes in the ivory tower but her win prompts others to come forward then the repition and contiuned bad pub may get through to them

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Me and the bible don't see eye to eye

by bobld in

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matt 7:13 in the past 2000 years billions of people took the broad and spacious road to destruction.john 5;29 however,they will be resurrected.why!

would you retrieve a rotten apple from the trash.. james 1;15 desire-paraphased leads to sin and death.a married man desires and has sex with a woman.you could say he screwed himself to death.on the other hand a man with pure thoughts would not think of such a thing.he's going to die anyways.bummer.. james 1:17 a perfect gift from above.my ass,drought in california and snow to high heaven in boston.. one more james 1;22 become doers of the word (per john 1;14 the word is j.c.) how am i suppose to do something with the word that is somewhere in space.

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_Morpheus

Lol the more you look into it the deeper the rabbit hole goes ;)

edited to add:

heres a link from a topic a few months ago. It shares a humorous video highlighting more flawed bible logic

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/119800001/kissing-hanks-rear

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Why I think the Governing Body are the world's ultimate 'predators'

by Esse quam videri in

in a previous posting i made the statement that the governing body were the world's ultimate predators.

i will now give some reasons why this may be so.. for the purpose of this post i will provide the following definitions: .

- predator - a human who lives by predation.

_Morpheus

Loveuni,

Great list. I choose one croc as a representive of the whole species and you certainly cant go wrong with the nile v salty.

I would have loved to rank smildon and other extinct species higher but the original question seemed to imply "living" or currently active predators as opposed to a comprehesive list that included historical flora and fauna. Megladon would rank very on my list, for instance as would various reptiles. Of course so much of what we "know" regarding these creatures is based on supposition and conjecture so i may have to move them down slightly in ranking to reflect the unknown nature of their true behaviour.

i too would rank several species of canius as top predators and your choice is one i need to read up more, so im glad you mentioned them

excellent choice of insect! They are fairly well established locally and i have enjoyed observing them in the wild. My personal choice of insect (arachnid) reflected my own fear of spiders as well as facination with them. I also gave them points for beauty and potential danger to humans.

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A flaw in JW logic on sin and transmision

by _Morpheus in

the "special talk" this year was about family happiness.

as always seems to be the case it was a bait and switch job since the talk had actually nothing to do with how to achive family happiness and everything to do with jw doctrine on why familys are unhappy.

mine is unhappy because of jw doctrine but thats the implied irony in attending the sunday indoctrination i suppose.. that said, the speaker trotted out the oft used jw illistration of a dented bread pan to describe why and how sin was passed from one human (adam) to another (all of us).

_Morpheus

Excellent point vidot! I read information regarding what is essentually the shortening of dna or a critical component of dna as cells divide. I dont pretend to understand it fully but my take away was that process was related to aging in all things and thus death. No "sin" there. Puts a lie to the whole thing

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Why I think the Governing Body are the world's ultimate 'predators'

by Esse quam videri in

in a previous posting i made the statement that the governing body were the world's ultimate predators.

i will now give some reasons why this may be so.. for the purpose of this post i will provide the following definitions: .

- predator - a human who lives by predation.

_Morpheus

1)Carcharodon carcharias

2)Crocodylus porosus

3) Accipiter gentilis

4) Poecilotheria metallica

5,384) Governing body of jehovahs witnesses

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A flaw in JW logic on sin and transmision

by _Morpheus in

the "special talk" this year was about family happiness.

as always seems to be the case it was a bait and switch job since the talk had actually nothing to do with how to achive family happiness and everything to do with jw doctrine on why familys are unhappy.

mine is unhappy because of jw doctrine but thats the implied irony in attending the sunday indoctrination i suppose.. that said, the speaker trotted out the oft used jw illistration of a dented bread pan to describe why and how sin was passed from one human (adam) to another (all of us).

_Morpheus

Island man, you exanation makes as much sense as anything. Prologos points play right alomg with yours as well. Animals had no access to the tree of life but had never sinned either. as for the explanation of the tree of life, i was aware of the jw stance that it was symbolic, but thats not what the scriptures explicitly state.

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A flaw in JW logic on sin and transmision

by _Morpheus in

the "special talk" this year was about family happiness.

as always seems to be the case it was a bait and switch job since the talk had actually nothing to do with how to achive family happiness and everything to do with jw doctrine on why familys are unhappy.

mine is unhappy because of jw doctrine but thats the implied irony in attending the sunday indoctrination i suppose.. that said, the speaker trotted out the oft used jw illistration of a dented bread pan to describe why and how sin was passed from one human (adam) to another (all of us).

_Morpheus

The "special talk" this year was about family happiness. As always seems to be the case it was a bait and switch job since the talk had actually nothing to do with how to achive family happiness and everything to do with jw doctrine on why familys are unhappy. Mine is unhappy because of jw doctrine but thats the implied irony in attending the sunday indoctrination I suppose.

That said, the speaker trotted out the oft used jw illistration of a dented bread pan to describe why and how sin was passed from one human (adam) to another (all of us). In short, a dented bread pan can only produce dented bread since its the mold for all bread. We are dented since our mold, adam, was dented.

Im certain im not the first to ever comment on this but it struck me today just how flawed this illistration is. It makes "sin" a genetic abnormality. If thats the case, so be it. The flaw becomes the bible itself. The bible never describes "sin" as something inherent. It always describes sin as ACTIONS on our part or even the lack of action, but never as some genetic defect.

In order to bridge this gab between gentics and actions jw doctrine says we are unable to always do whats right because adams sin somehow corrupted his dna and passed on to us the inability to make "perfect" choices 100% of the time....

Clearly adam himself was unable to make "perfect" choices 100% of the time! How is this a genetic defect on any level? Its so convoluted this weird wedding of modern science and bronze age superstitions. Add to it the jw doctrine/bible teaching that adam had to be banned from the garden so he didnt eat from the tree of life and thus keep living! That particular teaching dosent harmonize at all since it ties life to the eating of fruit from a certain tree, NOT sin or genetics or the weird amalgamation of the two.

Its no secret im not a bible believer at this point but if anyone could shed light on a christian persepective on this is be interested in reading it