so.. some asshole visits another asshole but a mob erupts and wants to rape the visiting asshole.. the host asshole offers his daughter and the visiting asshole's concubine to appease the mob.. sure enough.. the concubine ends up gang raped and murdered.
in the morning the visiting asshole loads her up on his donkey, takes her home, dismembers her body into 12 pieces and sends it to all the tribes to incite war.. so an army of 22,000 is formed, some prick goes and asks jehovah if they should go and destroy the gang raping mob.. and jehovah says 'yes.. do it.
they go to fight and loose all 22,000 die.
Its incredible to me that i never before noticed just how calious and evil the man was... He forces the concubine outside and it basically appears he went to bed. He then wakes up in the morning and finds her slumped on the floor outside and is like "hey i know half the city spent the night raping you but its time to go!" When he see shes dead he dosent mourn her and bury her, he rides home and cuts her up.
She wasnt a person, she was property.
so here we are, almost a year into the "new" congregation donation arrangement.
and its beginning, as was predicted, to fail miserably, and to have direct negative consequences on the poor sheep.. let me give you a little experience, directly from our congregation of about 80 publishers.
back in may, after reading the letter about the "new" arrangement, the elder body decided to "donate" the extra funds on hand to wt, as directed.
i thought it would be important to clearly point in the recent talk by governing body member stephan lett, that he did in fact deliberately lie concerning what he described as lies and false information by apostates, concerning the organization being permissive toward people in the organization who had been involved in pedophilia.
the truth of the matter is thats exactly what the organization has been doing and perhaps for a long time.
the recent candace conti law suit where she was awarded 28 million dollars was levied against the wts for its irresponsible behavior by the elders who gave no notification of the accused jonathan kendrick that he had been charged with pedophilia and spent months in jail for his actions .
i thought it would be important to clearly point in the recent talk by governing body member stephan lett, that he did in fact deliberately lie concerning what he described as lies and false information by apostates, concerning the organization being permissive toward people in the organization who had been involved in pedophilia.
the truth of the matter is thats exactly what the organization has been doing and perhaps for a long time.
the recent candace conti law suit where she was awarded 28 million dollars was levied against the wts for its irresponsible behavior by the elders who gave no notification of the accused jonathan kendrick that he had been charged with pedophilia and spent months in jail for his actions .
Before i post this, i want to be clear one critical point: the policy regarding child abuse is abhorrent and dead wrong. Im not making any excuses for it...
now i will make an excuse .... The one aspect that is rational, IMHO, is the statment that there is a differance between a predator and someone who is technically a pedophile.
Case in point: locally there is a growing spanish population. Its not uncommon for an 18 year old to be involved with a 16-17 year old, usally an older boy, younger girl (but not always). Technically the older party is a pedophile... But is (s)he a predator...? I dont see it that way. There may be a matter of 6 months age differance, maybe a year. Its happened and that person, legally, was a pedo. The parents of the girl called the police and the elders had to report him to legal. Legal didnt classify him as a predator although he was delt with judicially as was the girl... My point is i actually agree with the distinction between two kids doing what horny teenagers do (even though one crossed the imaginary 18year old line) and a 50 year old guy preying on an 8 year old.
There needs to be some mechanism to distinguish, some common sense grounds to differentiate between the two cases and i support that common sense standard, which is what that church principle addresses. I also think every parent has the right and the responsiblity to call the police long before the local cult gets involved which is where i differ greatly from the church on this, but as to any action the church feels is nessary, a common sense differentiation between a predator and two hormonal teenagers is only logical.
in the february jw broadcasting they show anthony morris the iii out witnessing with his wife during a convention.
she is wearing the convention badge and also a badge with sophia & caleb on it.
i find it very amusing and she is not even a grandmother even though they like to portray am as a grandfather.. here's what their 1990 w 12/1 says about movie stars.
Bull. Stuff. I would need to see that first hand to believe it... A gb member wife working in the laundry..... Maybe answering the phone
in the february jw broadcasting they show anthony morris the iii out witnessing with his wife during a convention.
she is wearing the convention badge and also a badge with sophia & caleb on it.
i find it very amusing and she is not even a grandmother even though they like to portray am as a grandfather.. here's what their 1990 w 12/1 says about movie stars.
i just read about this on the ex-jw subreddit.
link to the video (10m06s).. skip to 7:35 where he says: "another way we can contribute to the oneness - rejecting false stories that are designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.
as an example, think about the apostate-driven lies and 'dishonesties' that jehovah's organization is permissive toward pedophiles.
i just pushed out an update that should now show post votes and provide some feedback when you click the like / dislike button.
the votes shows as a +5 / -2 next to the like and dislike options.. i just realize i linked the display to the ability to vote and given that the vote links are hidden on your own posts, that currently means you can't see the votes that others have given you (i'm almost wondering now if that may be for the best, lol).
expect it to change when i push the next update out.. duplicate votes won't be counted even though they may appear to update in the ui so don't bother trying to go click-crazy - every member only get's one vote on each post.. just a word of caution: i take serious people who try to game the system.
i'm new here but not new to researching and questioning the jw beliefs.
i have quite a story.... one that's been haunting me for awhile... but first, i'd like to hear what people have to say about this topic question, please.. -gigi.
"What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain." - morpheus
sometimes there is grander design, no bigger picture, no universal truth of the sort that jw'ism convinces us exists. We can find a purpose and a higher calling all our own and let that be our reality, as it suits us.
And we can hope to achieve some fullfillment of that which we define as fullfilling
