Posts by _Morpheus

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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?

by snugglebunny in

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when it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.

_Morpheus

An interesting question...... Along with it should be "why"? I do know its not always the husband though.. Blondie has mentioned it was she who awoke first, and im sure i have read others like it but id love to see an informal poll. I tend to think husbands may see things as elders that make them think and awaken but thats my personal bias speaking. Wifes may be subject to unjust treatment and thus awaken... They may also not be as invested as a male who has congregation responsiblities.

My rational mind says its likely subjective to the individuals in the couple but again i would love to see the informal poll results.....

in my case its obviously me who awoke first and there is little chance if any of the person im obligated too legally ever awaking

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Cancer healing—using emotions (watch this video)

by abiather in

cancer healingusing emotions (watch this video):.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmmnlmn1dpc&sns=em.

_Morpheus

This is quackery at its worst. Completely false and unsupported by any evidence whatsoever.

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Pick your belief system

by Giordano in

i think we've all noticed a ton of newbe's these past months.

one part of escaping or thinking about escaping the jw's is coming to terms with what you believe now and/or what direction you are leaning towards.. here is a site that has a quick quiz that may be of some worth or just for fun.

i took it when i first signed on here and the results surprised me because it was pretty accurate.. you don't have to sign up for anything and when you finish you will get a percentage answer on 20 major belief systems.

_Morpheus

Mine came up "jedi, like your farher before you"

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Is the rule of the "two witnesses" always applied in cases of apostasy?

by Judge Rochefort in

hello there.

this is my first thread here.i was wondering if anybody here could help me with a question that i have.my question is this: is it always applied the rule of the "two witnesses" in cases of apostasy?

i'll put an example:if a jw is working with another jw and one of them is continuously talking about teachings contrary to the bible truth as taught by jehovah's witnesses, would the testimony of the other jw be enough to form a judicial committee?thanks!

_Morpheus

Really good question and the answer.... Is yes technically speaking the two witness rule ALWAYS applies for the formation of a judicial committee.

However The aligation alone would likely lead to a shepherding call where the issue would be brought up. For many the idea of lying and expressing full confidance in the governing body would be distastefull once they awoken and thus the mere aligation would lead to a committee indirectly.

but the short answer is no you would not directly emd up before a JC for things said one on one

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Oldest Homo Fragments to date found in Ethiopa....................

by cantleave in

...............2.75 - 2.8 million years old - slightly more than 6000!!!.

http://www.the-scientist.com//?articles.view/articleno/42339/title/oldest-homo-remains-yet-found/.

_Morpheus

Carbon dating is flawed!

where science and the bible conflict we must accept the bible as gods word!

scientists lie and commit academic fraud to make a name for themselves all the time!

- witnesses and fundamenist everwhere

cool info cantleave :)

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Methane-Based Life Forms Could Exist on Titan (the giant moon of Saturn), say Scientists

by abiather in

liquid water is a requirement for life on earth.

but in other, much colder worlds, life might exist beyond the bounds of water-based chemistry.

cornell chemical engineers and astronomers offer a template for life that could thrive in a harsh, cold world specifically titan, the giant moon of saturn.

_Morpheus

As an aside, i am also a bit of a tesla "fan boy". i think he was a genuis and generally unappreciated in his time for his legitimate comtributions to science.....

he was also a world class bullsh*** artist and made some outrageous and outlandish claims. Just my .02 on that.

as for methane based life forms.. Im open to the possiblity. Carbon is abundant and the makes sense to us but that our bias and our only frame of referance. Id love to see it determined and the science worked through.

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Nethanyahu speach to US Congress - not in sync with NRA position on weapons

by RubaDub in

i don't quite understand why mr. nethanyahu is so fearful if iran or other nations have nuclear weapons.

as the nra espouses, the more people are armed and the more weapons on the street, then the safer we should feel.

we all should have the right to protect ourselves.

_Morpheus

Rub, if you would like to discuss gun laws in america you wont be the first start a thread addressing it. That would be a more intelictually honest approach than setting up a false equivalenancy argument with iran V isreal and nuclear arms. Im interested in hearing other views on both topics but this seems like it was a cheap attempt at trading trite campian slogans instead of a real exchange of ideas on either topic.

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Nethanyahu speach to US Congress - not in sync with NRA position on weapons

by RubaDub in

i don't quite understand why mr. nethanyahu is so fearful if iran or other nations have nuclear weapons.

as the nra espouses, the more people are armed and the more weapons on the street, then the safer we should feel.

we all should have the right to protect ourselves.

_Morpheus

I let the track record speak for itself when it comes to determining "upstanding" or not. Nobody outside the fundamentalist islamic religion would call iran upstanding or responsible or moral, even many iranians themselves as is evidanced by their attempts overthrow the current 'government'.

Im not appoligizing for the USA or any other country or justifying any wars recently fought in that region, im simply commenting on your original post regarding the concept of arming oneself for self defense vis a v the NRA et all.

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Nethanyahu speach to US Congress - not in sync with NRA position on weapons

by RubaDub in

i don't quite understand why mr. nethanyahu is so fearful if iran or other nations have nuclear weapons.

as the nra espouses, the more people are armed and the more weapons on the street, then the safer we should feel.

we all should have the right to protect ourselves.

_Morpheus

While i understand your being sarcastic, i would counter your point as follows:

i believe its the NRA's position that more lawabiding ethical and moral people being able to own guns is good, not criminals.

iran is far from law abiding, moral or ethical. They are an outlaw group at best. Disarming them and ensuring upstanding countries can protect themselves is exactly in like with the NRA's position.

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Watchtower switching to selling children's toys that have corporation approval

by Brokeback Watchtower in

hey put a good video out about the evil toys on the market and the possibility of making jehovah very very sad by having these things in your house and demons start to party on your sofa.

then wait a couple of weeks and offer a entire line of acceptable toys and charge the hypnotized families a stiff price/suggested contribution.

could make a few million and help pay off some of these child molestation lawsuits.. i can just see tony morris singing 'rubber ducky' and offering the latest marketing scam of a toy that don't make jehovah so sad.