Its a good point that perhaps your MIL needs help going to the meeting because of her eyesight and being in a new area. If thats the case then helping her get an uber until she gets to know the locals isnt unreasonable.... its a loving brotherhood, they will take care of her *snicker*
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Random Musing of an ex-JW between a rock and a hard place.
by StarTrekAngel inmany of you may recall pass postings of mine where i mentioned my plans of moving away from my current neighborhood.
mainly because my office got moved and now my commute is about one hour each way.
my employer is pretty flexible so showing up on time, for now, is not an issue.
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Random Musing of an ex-JW between a rock and a hard place.
by StarTrekAngel inmany of you may recall pass postings of mine where i mentioned my plans of moving away from my current neighborhood.
mainly because my office got moved and now my commute is about one hour each way.
my employer is pretty flexible so showing up on time, for now, is not an issue.
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First let me say congragulations on your advancment!
Let follow up by saying, pardon me for being so blunt, whats actually the problem? You boiled it down this statment:
This means having to pay for daycare, and probably even a provider for her because we can't trust my brother in law.
The first part, yes. You would end up paying for day care if your MIL didnt live with you. I dont see that as a problem, per say, but yes an added expense. Given what your saving on driving (time, gas, wear and tear on the car) your making up for summer day care.
The second part i could not disagree more with you. YOU have made plans to care for her. YOU are perfectly willing to let her move with YOU while YOU continue to provide for her. If SHE chooses something different than that is indeed her choice. Not yours. And for god damn sure not YOUR problem to pay for some alternative.
See how that works? She made choices that lead to her living with you and being relient on you. YOUR house YOUR rules. She dosent get to dictate that somehow your wife has to meet a condition for you to continue to have the ”privilege” letting her live with you.
You need a little perspective, your MIL a needs a LOT
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Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion
by jambon1 init’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.
aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.
it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.
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_Morpheus
I would say your dead on, slim. If you believe what the wt teaches then this is accurate. Its objectionable when viewed through with non cult colored eyes.
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What Should I Say?
by cookiemaster ini need a bit of advice.
i've been pimo for a long time and fading more and more.
i occasionally attend for family but never give any answers or actively participate in any way.
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Oh yea that is a little different.... but in the end not really. Your busy. Love to talk but perhaps some other time! All the best to you bro nosey...
it works. Even if they KNOW your ducking them it dosent change the reality: they cant make you talk. They cant make you meet with them and they cant df you for being busy.
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What Should I Say?
by cookiemaster ini need a bit of advice.
i've been pimo for a long time and fading more and more.
i occasionally attend for family but never give any answers or actively participate in any way.
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_Morpheus
Sure its easy.... the CO has limited time to squeeze visits in. He does it really as filler so he dosent have to do a lot of door to door crap.
Your busy. Whatever day whatever time they try to set up, you have something going on. Hasve a few handy excuses ready. Work doctor whatever... but your busy. Catch him next go round.
See? Your overthinking it a bit, really. Its not that deep. I doubt anyone has you pegged as an apostate. They noticed you slowing down and figured they would try to motivate you to full cultyness. Duck and weave and this wont be an issue
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If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!
by nowwhat? ini have to make a token appearance at the k.h.
once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.
and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.
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They didnt drop the average number. Its all on the website. Ss following
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If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!
by nowwhat? ini have to make a token appearance at the k.h.
once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.
and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.
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_Morpheus
The peoples temple collapsed.
Methodists are declining.
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I just watched the final video from this years convention. OMG!!!
by NikL ini am shaking all over right now.
i think it's worse that the bunker video.. i used to think there was no way that these people would actually "drink the cool aid" if you get my drift, but seeing this video i am now not sure it could never happen.. having a wife who i love dearly trapped in this cult is really freaking me out right now...
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If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!
by nowwhat? ini have to make a token appearance at the k.h.
once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.
and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.
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_Morpheus
Lol oh slim.... your making a career of misquoting me. I
never said just fine.
I never said sophisticated online religion.
I have said that print is dying and rhey are making adjustments. I have said they are no longer in their hayday and cant afford to build or expand without regard for money anymore. They are not what they once were.
Now let me quote you accurately: yesterday you said they are right now collapsing. Thats what you said on this very thread one page ago. A few min ago you said they may be around 80 more years.
You are the playing a high level game of “hedge your bets”. No matter what happens you have position that covers it.
And i can totally accept that any growth is coming from small or perhaps underdeveloped countries. I dont know or really care where it is.
And again with the census? Ive already addressed in detail why jw’s may not self report to the government. Their organization instills fear of satans world that will anyday now (if they dont collapse) turn on them. Of course they dont self report. Also also, canada is one country. How in the world can i know or have insight on what the census in Canada means for world wide jw populations? Neither can you, my uk based friend.
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If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!
by nowwhat? ini have to make a token appearance at the k.h.
once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.
and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.
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_Morpheus
Everyone remain calm! I have not now nor have i for many years now given one single damn as to whether or not the watchtower bible and track society “collapses” or not.
I do however, care about a realistic assessment of facts. Understanding reality is necessary to deal with reality.
The org still grows. Notice the facts i presented earlier:
2016- 8,340,847 1.8% increase
2017- 8,457,107 1.4% increase
Incontrovertable evidance of growth. Growth is the opposite of collapse. As i have also said, ad nauseum, the org will indeed one day collapse. All things die. Every country, every government, every institution, every planet, star and the universe itself will one day collapse.
But lets be realistic about when. It aint today, as slim just claimed. It wont be tomorrow. It will be one day. Look at what truly is not what you wish it to be. This is the path to inner peace.
Your welcome.