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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  With due respect, Wt to my knowledge has never publicly addressed the issue what happens to the billions that took the bread and the wine, but forgot that they should have stopped at 144 000.

  Like wise, with respect, they have addressed it every day since their inception. I have no idea what “billions” of partakers you could mean. The sum total of all witness to ever live isnt a billion let alone the comparative few have partaken. The org teaches nobody outside is saved so you cant mean all other nominal christians who partake.

  All that said, my remarks stand regarding the earthly hope as taugh by jw’s. The numbers dont add up from any perspective, no matter how you slice it, on the heavenly hope.
  
  
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  Witness No More - any thoughts?

  by dozy in

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  for those who don't know , there is an ex-jw "activist" in the north of england called mark who demonstrates outside kingdom halls , focusing on the child abuse issue and similar topics.

  he regularly updates his visits on his youtube channel , which has gained something of a cult following .

  occasionally ( albeit less frequently , as he is now well known ) he gets into the kh & shouts and disrupts the meeting.

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  _Morpheus

  Picketting outside a kh is pointless but also not something i would view as agressive..

  interrupting meetings? My negative views on that sort of jackassery are well documented... i would add this: if someone had ever tried that crap, even when i was pimo, i would have beat the hell out of him. When someone is willing to violate societal norms to that degree (aggressively interrupting a church service) they must be considered a danger and it must be assumed that they will go futher with their anti social behavior.

  he needs professional help, not money.
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  Canada Branch Financials are Posted (The Bleeding Appears Very Real)

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  posted here:.

  https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=740aq85115d1a04174c4d867e056351ad6836.

  biggest changes:.

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  😂😂 well played, oh slim one.

  The reality is we dont know how much cash they have sent to Brooklyn... er warwick. I bet their goal is to have branches work like local kh and keep essentially bare minimum funds on hand. Its paints a bad picture but its only a small sliver. Until the day comes that we see the full picture you cant claim to know it all
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  British Sociologist Predicts Possible Collapse in Jehovah's Witness Numbers

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. friends

  a newly published article by british sociologist david voas argues jehovah's witnesses may be about to experience a collapse in numbers.

  contrary to claims by american sociologist rodney stark who predicts strong future growth for jehovah's witnesses, voas shows that jehovah's witnesses' efforts at recruiting new members have become increasingly unsuccessful over the past few decades: the rate of increase has steadily declined, and the number of hours each publisher must preach to produce an extra convert has gone up substantially.

  voas suggests a reason for the stagnation may be that there is a natural limit to the number of people in a given population that are susceptible to conversion to sectarian groups like jehovah's witnesses - the 'carrying capacity' of the population, and that the limit has largely been reached.

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  Lol slim what a great find! Its almost ten years old and still no more true today than then. Somethings never change.
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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  _Morpheus

  There is the rub for wt, although they deny there was an Earthly Calling before 1914-18

  False, they do not deny an earthly hope prior to 1918. They believe anyone faithful from abel until jesus death had an earthly hope. From jesus death until just before 1935 was all heavenly. Since 1935(ish) both existed.

  That said, the numbers in no way add up. Far far more than 144k faithful in 1900 years. That rediculious teaching never made sense and they realized it in the 1930’s, thus the up ‘othersheep/great crowd’ bail out.
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  2018-05-17-BOE--June Local Needs!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  2018-05-17-boejune's local needshttps://we.tl/ew4qtx7lb9atlantis!.

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  Well its regarding the branch relocation in england. It will be interesting to hear reports on what the video actually says. Im sure slim will have an interesting spin on how this portends their doom
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  Upcoming Tidal Wave of Media Onslaught targeting Jehovah's Witnesses ahead...

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  at least three media venues have undertaken the daunting task of unpacking the insidious dark side of jehovah's witnesses' organization.1.

  douglas quenqua is a writer based in new york.

  his work has appeared in the new york times, wired, redbook, and cnbc.

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  Yea somebody call rick fearon. Hes the least credible exwitness in the world.
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  Upcoming Tidal Wave of Media Onslaught targeting Jehovah's Witnesses ahead...

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  at least three media venues have undertaken the daunting task of unpacking the insidious dark side of jehovah's witnesses' organization.1.

  douglas quenqua is a writer based in new york.

  his work has appeared in the new york times, wired, redbook, and cnbc.

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  No one group deserves it more!!!

  wow really? No group....? What about the kkk? Or the neo nazi’s? Or nambla? None of them deserve bad press more than wtb&s society?
  
  
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  Random Musing of an ex-JW between a rock and a hard place.

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  many of you may recall pass postings of mine where i mentioned my plans of moving away from my current neighborhood.

  mainly because my office got moved and now my commute is about one hour each way.

  my employer is pretty flexible so showing up on time, for now, is not an issue.

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  Its a good point that perhaps your MIL needs help going to the meeting because of her eyesight and being in a new area. If thats the case then helping her get an uber until she gets to know the locals isnt unreasonable.... its a loving brotherhood, they will take care of her *snicker*
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  Random Musing of an ex-JW between a rock and a hard place.

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  many of you may recall pass postings of mine where i mentioned my plans of moving away from my current neighborhood.

  mainly because my office got moved and now my commute is about one hour each way.

  my employer is pretty flexible so showing up on time, for now, is not an issue.

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  _Morpheus

  First let me say congragulations on your advancment!

  Let follow up by saying, pardon me for being so blunt, whats actually the problem? You boiled it down this statment:

  This means having to pay for daycare, and probably even a provider for her because we can't trust my brother in law.

  The first part, yes. You would end up paying for day care if your MIL didnt live with you. I dont see that as a problem, per say, but yes an added expense. Given what your saving on driving (time, gas, wear and tear on the car) your making up for summer day care.

  The second part i could not disagree more with you. YOU have made plans to care for her. YOU are perfectly willing to let her move with YOU while YOU continue to provide for her. If SHE chooses something different than that is indeed her choice. Not yours. And for god damn sure not YOUR problem to pay for some alternative.

  See how that works? She made choices that lead to her living with you and being relient on you. YOUR house YOUR rules. She dosent get to dictate that somehow your wife has to meet a condition for you to continue to have the ”privilege” letting her live with you.

  You need a little perspective, your MIL a needs a LOT