Posts by ivanatahan

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Question for people who believe in Evolution

by ttte36 in

though school i did religious education and my teacher who was religious ruled out evolution because humans are the only creatures who do not want to die, can anyone who understands evolution explain this?.

im 99% on to the theory of evolution, this is just the last stumbling block..

ivanatahan

but also, someone can explain to me why there is matter floating around in space to be a big bang to begin with, where did it come from? lol,

Evolution and the Big Bang theory are really two separate subjects. For all we know, the Universe could have been created, yet life could have evolved on Earth separate of the influence of a creator.

To answer your question, there are many theories. There's a theory that the point of singularity existed forever until the energy decided to explode. Another one, that I personally prefer to accept, is that time itself only started at the point of the Big Bang. What happened before, God knows. ;)

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The Logisitcs of Destroying Organized Religion

by truthseeker in

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they define babylon the great as the "world empire of false religion", and that jehovah god will use the united nations to turn on her.. .

the "keep on the watch" brochure says the following, regarding the destruction of babylon the great:.

"for our day, the bible forecasts that political governments, like a wild beast, will turn on "the harlot" and strip her naked, exposing her real .

ivanatahan

As you mentioned, the United Nations doesn't hold NEARLY enough power to even think of doing such a thing. On top of that, even if it did, it wouldn't be in their interests. Religion is indeed too ingrained into the hearts of too many people, so any government supporting the end of religion would be making a horrible mistake. Even people not in any religion may oppose any governmental restriction on religion. It isn't about restricting organized religion, it's about people's rights to organized religion. Everyone without distinction is entitled to that. No government should be able to do that, and if the people let any government ban organized religion, then the people have given the government too much power.

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My Assembly Experience

by Clambake in

jw literally take forever to say nothing.

after a whole day of listening how to obtain peace , i am not sure if i obtain peace from obeying mosaic law, having a relationship to jehovah though jesus or be baptized and have a direct line to jehovah.

every speaker tries to out bore and contract the other one.

ivanatahan

" This is unclean " . LOL. Classic ! I love it. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

Best part of the whole post!

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Just bumped into this...

by StarTrekAngel in

this is a phrase taken from the current wt magazine being studied.

someone already took it and ran with it, posting it as a banner in a pro-jw site called "i am proudly a jw".

it's in spanish, but you can look it up in the english version of the mag.

ivanatahan

I read that during the meeting and exploded in anger. Fortunately, I wasn't visibly troubled.

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Summarize every the meeting in 20 seconds

by Sour Grapes in

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the world is full of wickedness.. the end is very near.. we must do more.. how thankful we are for the governing body.

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ivanatahan

Service meetings - "God loves us and that's why He sent us Jesus. Remember to learn to read well and act well in front of the congregation. Remember not to waste the householder's time, but remember to give them a magazine and tell them everything written in the Bible."

Sunday meetings - "The world is evil. God hates the world. God loves his people. God is represented by the perfect imperfect-humans in the Governing Body. Remember to follow their rules."

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Getting JWs To Think By Using Their Own Tactics On Them.

by Island Man in

i've been thinking that an effective way to expose the idiocy and vacuousness of jwism is to use it right back on them when they come to your door.

say you're a fader and you've moved to the territory of a different circuit where the jws there don't know your jw background.

when they come knocking at your door, just put on the jw mindset and pretend to yourself that the jws at the door are not jws but members of a "false religion.".

ivanatahan

I gotta say, if you use this tactic, you might end up making them simply leave the door. I'm thinking that if you somehow are able to make them come back by saying that you're only "kidding", then you could justify it by saying "I just wanted to demonstrate how JWs like you defend their faith", and hopefully they'll pay enough attention to hear that, and you could make them think.

It may sound like nonsense, but being away from a JW mindset of a while made me forget how JWs think.

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This Year's Memorial

by TD in

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perhaps i'm just getting older and crankier, but it really seems to me that the jw faith is deteriorating at an accelerated rate.. case in point: this year's memorial talk.

it was one of the most incoherent messes i've ever heard.

(and i've heard a lot of memorial talks over the last 50 years....).

ivanatahan

It was quite lame. Our speaker said we'd do "exactly what the Bible tells us to do", read a scripture saying that we should eat the bread and drink the wine, but didn't. In fact, the only similarity I was able to notice was the presence of bread and wine and that we "prayed" before... well, before passing it around.

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Happy Easter

by cofty in

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ivanatahan

Thanks, mate. You, too! :D

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Attending memorial tomorrow?

by Ghiagirl in

this is my first year i will not attend memorial.

to be honest if it wasn't for my husband i would probably be going still.

he says what's the point, don't be one of those people who doesn't give a sh** but just shows there face once a year.

ivanatahan

My Memorial is at 9:30 PM, so I'll be home by MIDNIGHT. Of all the stupid things that the Watchtower has done, none have made me so angry (except how they deceived my family into believing their bull$#i#). I would love to not go, but the last thing I need is an angry mom and dad. I hate the concept of driving half way across the metropolitan area only to pass around perfectly edible bread and wine, only to not eat it and throw it out afterwards. How is this even sane?

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Newbies , Are We Seeing An Accelerated Increase? This Past Year ? Newbies Feel free To Respond Please .

by smiddy in

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is it just me or does anyone else see more newbies joining this site this past year and especially in the last few months .. we would love to welcome you with genuine friendship ,support ,encouragement ,a place to vent ,and not judge you.. you have the freedom to express whatever view you like and you won`t be kicked off the board.. and to learn more about the "truth" about the truth , you will not hear at a kingdom hall .. smiddy.

ivanatahan

"I have seen more leaving than coming in. Young ones are exiting at alarming rates. TTATT is out and everywhere, so resistance is futile.

SL"

Speak for yourself. In the congregations I've been in, there's always been growth. I think it may be because the elders are too scared to arbitrarily DF people.