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  God's Spirit

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  what is god's spirit?

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  i ask this of those who believe in god.

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  ivanatahan

  If so, then why is it that scientists do not loudly oppose the abortion of fetuses with multiple genetic defects? After all there could be a new forward step in the making. Why does science in practice not support survival of the fittest and oppose vaccination in order that the species may be enhanced. I can only assume it is because when it comes to evolution science speaks out of one side of its mouth but in practice out of the other.

  Perhaps because humans, as a species, have evolved enough to care for each other, which ultimately means they have the morality that convinces them that killing other humans for the sake of evolving the human race is not exactly the nicest thing to do. Believing in evolution based on the mountains of evidence doesn't mean you should support the continued evolution of the human race at the cost of other humans' lives, it simply means you understand how life forms became the way they are today based on the information that is available.
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  Dating

  by Indy98 in

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  i have been brought up as a jehovah witness and want to date this boy who isn't a jehovah's witness.

  we have talked about the trials we could go through and i was wondering because i am a unbaptised publisher could i date him without any consequences?

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  ivanatahan

  Only if you want to be judged by every JW that you know, especially behind your back. It would probably thus strain any relations you have with any JWs.
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  The UN Security Council is a disgrace

  by fukitol in

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  the syrian conflict and lack of action by the un basically proves to me the un is a failed model.. that prick bashar's army is dropping barrels bombs on schools, hospitals, killing little children etc, but russia and china with their vested geo-political interests just veto any resolution proposed by the un security council to intervene.. circa 5 years of suffering by millions of women and children living in deprivation and misery in refugee camps, with all manner of atrocities and war crimes still occurring in syria itself.

  all the meanwhile this disgusting asshole bashar and his military cronies continue in power and live in luxury.. it absolutely breaks my heart and makes me sick to my stomach.

  i don't give a toss about all the rationalisations and counter-arguments people may make defending the bashar regime.. as far as i'm concerned, the un security council is a broken and failed entity, a spineless, essentially corrupt model with grossly conflicting vested interests that are blockading fundamental moral and humane principles and obligations enshrined in it's charter.

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  ivanatahan

  Yeah, the WTS would probably try and retcon WW3 into their eschatology.
  Not sure just how they'd spin it, though.

  They'll probably be trying to secure their neutral position and think the witnesses who get persecuted because of it are proof that the big A has started (much like how many were concerned WW2 might be the end). Maybe they'll teach that the final peace treaty will result in a ban on religion (assuming the war resulted after something that involved religion heated up). This was actually an old theory of mine that I came up with when I still believed in the "truth".
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  The UN Security Council is a disgrace

  by fukitol in

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  the syrian conflict and lack of action by the un basically proves to me the un is a failed model.. that prick bashar's army is dropping barrels bombs on schools, hospitals, killing little children etc, but russia and china with their vested geo-political interests just veto any resolution proposed by the un security council to intervene.. circa 5 years of suffering by millions of women and children living in deprivation and misery in refugee camps, with all manner of atrocities and war crimes still occurring in syria itself.

  all the meanwhile this disgusting asshole bashar and his military cronies continue in power and live in luxury.. it absolutely breaks my heart and makes me sick to my stomach.

  i don't give a toss about all the rationalisations and counter-arguments people may make defending the bashar regime.. as far as i'm concerned, the un security council is a broken and failed entity, a spineless, essentially corrupt model with grossly conflicting vested interests that are blockading fundamental moral and humane principles and obligations enshrined in it's charter.

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  ivanatahan

  Indeed, the UN's model is less than exemplary. Unfortunately, no change can be made with the UN because any change of how the UN Security Council runs, like making it only possible to veto by a majority vote, will be vetoed by any power currently in the Council. The United Nations hold almost no purpose now, except that of providing a single place for world powers to show off how selfish they are. As much as I would hate for a third World War to happen, perhaps the UN will suffer the same fate as the League of Nations if it does. This will surely bring JWs around the world to try and deal with the bunch their panties had become. That is, assuming the GB doesn't release "new light".
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  Do You Think Humanity Will Ever Be Completely Free From Religion?

  by InjusticeSystem in

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  i realize that many here still have a form of spirituality or faith, and i mean no disrespect to those individuals.

  i suppose i am posting this question to those, like myself, who have come to the conclusion that religion in general is a major hindrance to the progress of our species and needs to be put aside so that we can advance to our full potential.

  so my question is, do you think this will ever actually happen, and how do you think we can get there?

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  ivanatahan

  I'm sure humanity will go extinct before it'll be completely free.
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  WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU DONATED?

  by brandnew in

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  5 years ago.......$10

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  ivanatahan

  Donate? Hah...
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  Question for people who believe in Evolution

  by ttte36 in

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  though school i did religious education and my teacher who was religious ruled out evolution because humans are the only creatures who do not want to die, can anyone who understands evolution explain this?.

  im 99% on to the theory of evolution, this is just the last stumbling block..

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  ivanatahan

  but also, someone can explain to me why there is matter floating around in space to be a big bang to begin with, where did it come from? lol,

  Evolution and the Big Bang theory are really two separate subjects. For all we know, the Universe could have been created, yet life could have evolved on Earth separate of the influence of a creator.

  To answer your question, there are many theories. There's a theory that the point of singularity existed forever until the energy decided to explode. Another one, that I personally prefer to accept, is that time itself only started at the point of the Big Bang. What happened before, God knows. ;)
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  The Logisitcs of Destroying Organized Religion

  by truthseeker in

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  they define babylon the great as the "world empire of false religion", and that jehovah god will use the united nations to turn on her.. .

  the "keep on the watch" brochure says the following, regarding the destruction of babylon the great:.

  "for our day, the bible forecasts that political governments, like a wild beast, will turn on "the harlot" and strip her naked, exposing her real .

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  ivanatahan

  As you mentioned, the United Nations doesn't hold NEARLY enough power to even think of doing such a thing. On top of that, even if it did, it wouldn't be in their interests. Religion is indeed too ingrained into the hearts of too many people, so any government supporting the end of religion would be making a horrible mistake. Even people not in any religion may oppose any governmental restriction on religion. It isn't about restricting organized religion, it's about people's rights to organized religion. Everyone without distinction is entitled to that. No government should be able to do that, and if the people let any government ban organized religion, then the people have given the government too much power.
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  My Assembly Experience

  by Clambake in

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  jw literally take forever to say nothing.

  after a whole day of listening how to obtain peace , i am not sure if i obtain peace from obeying mosaic law, having a relationship to jehovah though jesus or be baptized and have a direct line to jehovah.

  every speaker tries to out bore and contract the other one.

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  ivanatahan

  " This is unclean " . LOL. Classic ! I love it. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  Best part of the whole post!
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  Just bumped into this...

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  2. beliefs

  this is a phrase taken from the current wt magazine being studied.

  someone already took it and ran with it, posting it as a banner in a pro-jw site called "i am proudly a jw".

  it's in spanish, but you can look it up in the english version of the mag.

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  ivanatahan

  I read that during the meeting and exploded in anger. Fortunately, I wasn't visibly troubled.