Posts by azor

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Compliment or criticism - what affects you most?

by EdenOne in

a bit of introspection on this one ... just read on someone's post that a compliment makes him "float" for hours, and it got me thinking; within the spectrum of comments that people make about me, from compliment to criticism, which is the type that most affects me?.

after my experience as a jehovah's witness, i find that i've become suspicious of compliments and over-sensitive to criticism.

because a common technique of elders was to compliment someone before going down to business, that is, giving hard counseling or discipline.

azor

I would first like to apologize for something I wrote on another thread to you edenone.

I try to live by the motto that real friends stab you in the front. It's not always easy but I do try to take criticism as from someone who told me something they didn't have to. Most people shy away from anything with a hint of unpleasantness.

I to am leary of compliments. I believe much of it is from being indoctrinated with the teaching that we are unworthy servants and have done what we ought to have done. This cult has taught us that individuals don't matter. It sucks to struggle with the continuous self doubt and self deprecating.

A compliment should be taken as just that. Praise and appreciation of who and what we bring to the table. Here's to you eden one and everyone else here who has had the courage to leave this cult and continue to help newbies like me recover. Thank you all.

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EVIDENCE

by azor in

youtube channel evid3nc3.

click on playlist and select "why i am no longer a christian.

" this is one of the most comprehensive and sensitive breakdowns of theism i have seen.

azor

If you haven't already please check it out. Good light listening for the weekend.

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EVIDENCE

by azor in

youtube channel evid3nc3.

click on playlist and select "why i am no longer a christian.

" this is one of the most comprehensive and sensitive breakdowns of theism i have seen.

azor

YouTube channel Evid3nc3. Click on playlist and select "Why I Am No Longer A Christian." This is one of the most comprehensive and sensitive breakdowns of Theism I have seen. It is broken down into very viewable sections.

Whether you are a theist, atheist, or somewhere in between this is a story we all can relate to as exjws. Please check out and let me know your thoughts.

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

azor

William Draper. Check out the YouTube channel Evid3nc3 and click on playlist and listen to his deconversion story and then I would like to hear your thoughts.

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Question for atheists and nonbelievers

by pressman in

i profess to teach the truth to you all and get you to all to think and believe.

believing in christ through his words and not through evil religious cults, like hoj and jw, can and will save you.

do you all realize that every time you are victorious and receive something of value through your hard work and sweat, it was our holy god who blessed you.

azor

I just finished viewing a tremendous breakdown of a former believers journey. I couldn't stop listening. It took all day and well worth it. It has been the most comprehensive and sensitive address I have considered so far. If any are interested I highly recommend going to his YouTube channel. The name of the channel is Evid3nc3. Go to his playlist and consider his articulate breakdown with many references for yourself.

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Endure! Life is hard! Lost? We are Miserable ? Don't think so

by ducatijoe in

its a rainy day and have been reading posts.. i would like to respond to the comments of those still in, post to those who have decided to leave.. what ever you have been told or may think about what will happen without "the truth" , is not true.

my life without the wbts is fantastic.

no stress, live in a beautiful place, great new friends and total peace of mind.

azor

Thank you for this post. I left 7 months ago and I'm in the process of moving my family to a new area within the next month. Some in my extended family know where my family ttatt wise is and do very little with us. This is despite my son undergoing chemo for leukemia. It's even harder to feel abandoned with this going on.

I have mixed feelings. Excited about the new beginning and sad that I have lost so much. Family, and so called friends. Damn I don't even have anyone to help me move. I have to hire someone since I can't lift the items myself.

I know my wife, children, and I will make new friends. The interim is very challenging though. My son has been battling for his life and doing well so far thanks to the system of things that we live in. I'll be damned if I condemn my children to this cult after everything my children and wife have been through.

Here's to a new life and new beginnings.

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Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

by RayPublisher in

for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

follow isaac's story here:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

azor

Thank you for posting this. I look forward to watching the second installment. Being a former elder myself I was pissed when they started in on the Catholic church and how good wt was in its policies toward pedos.

I have to watch the second one when no one is around so people don't start looking at me sideways as I'm cursing up a storm.

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What is BELIEF ?

by EdenOne in

stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

azor

Pressman - go to a theist site and see how much discord and disagreements exist. I lost count of how many Christian denominations there are. I refuse to stick my fingers in my ears and say la la la when I hear something I don't like. Even though people like you pressure me to do so.

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What is BELIEF ?

by EdenOne in

stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.

what exactly is "belief"?.

is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?

azor

I hope this nonsense is in the private forum. I have only been here a few months and the trifling over words could easily prevent someone that is brand new away from this site. And away from the wonderful resource of knowledge and wisdom here.

Cofty and Viviane and others with your viewpoint why bother engaging eden one and outlaw? It seems like you give credibility to a subject that doesn't merit it. A duplicate in essence of the last one on absentheism.

I like eden one and outlaw as well and believe they bring humor and a different outlook, but seem petulant at least to me with posts like this that get overly personal with topics like this that are quite out there to begin with.

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Theory of god

by azor in

i have noticed that theists have an aversion to the word theory.

as it is mostly attached to evolution, and they have a deep misunderstanding of what the word means.. i'm probably botching the following statement but the general idea is as follows.

it has been said that whoever sets the parameters of the battle or frames the argument wins.

azor

I have noticed that theists have an aversion to the word theory. As it is mostly attached to evolution, and they have a deep misunderstanding of what the word means.

I'm probably botching the following statement but the general idea is as follows. It has been said that whoever sets the parameters of the battle or frames the argument wins. Theists continue to twist the meaning of words to confuse and help their flocks remain blind.

What if we started using some of their tactics against them. Frame the points of discussion. Stating belief in god as a theory anytime we discuss it with friends, neighbors, and forums may help some analyse what a theory actually is and how the theory of god does not move into the category of provable truth. In contrast to evolution and so on.