What a nice time.....I am trying not to be jealous!!!
lovinlife
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It is not allowed to be this happy said the witch in willow the wisp
by Celtic inwhat a bloomin lovely, lovely, lovely day it was today, well, last 24 hours or so actually.
awoke this morning with little sign of hangover from saturday nights schenalligans on the town to a stunning warm day with not cloud in sky, about 71f (21c).
a mate rang me up asking if i could give some guy from zimbabwe a lift from local village, down to town, british legion club.
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Just thought I'd introduce myself, finally!
by TrailBlazer04 ini was never "in" the wts, but my husband's x-wife and children are jw.
he never was...it's a long story, but between the "religion" and other stuff, she's managed to inflict so much damage and pain on him that at one point he was suicidal...so much for "christian love", ya know?.
looking forward to talking more, if that's ok with everybody!.
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lovinlife
Welcome! So glad to have you here!
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After 20 Years.....I Can't Believe It!
by RAYZORBLADE inno surprise, i don't post here much these days.. but today, i have to.. when i first arrived here back in january 2003, i remember looking at this very section of the board.
personal experiences & reunions.. well.....i got the shock...the absolute shock of a lifetime.
some of you, i'm sure, when you remember folks in your jw past, there are those whom you thought you'd never ever hear from.. last night, i get home from work (4:00 a.m.) and i go on-line, open my e-mail, and i see a name i have not seen since my jw days of 1983/84.. how did i feel?
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lovinlife
Ray, thanks so much for sharing this wonderful news! So happy for you! And thanks for giving us hope for those we love and have lost for alittle while...
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Hello, I am new
by SpandauParade in.
i have been reading many of the posts and i would like to say that it is good to agree with so many.
janos
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lovinlife
Welcome! Good luck with your book. Follow your heart. You are doing the right thing!
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the most inconseqvent rule among JWs
by happy man ini can take one exampel.. we all now about the polyci to convickt sexabuser ot pedofiles,you must have two wittneses to what happend if not we must putt it i n jehovas hand,.
but if you sleep over together before you are married, you dont need any wittneses att al to be dfd or reeprofed, even if it is a third person ther it is an dfd thing says the elder book.enen if it is an third person ther.. why it is so important widh two wittneses to judge sexabuser, but when it comes to peopel as doing nothing only sleep over in the same department it need no wittneses att al to bad things happend to dfd them.. so you can be harder judged if you only sleep in a bed than if you rape chilrden, or sex abuse them in any way,this is not so unusal, i have among my family peopel as have been judged fore this minor thing, sleeping over widhuot doing anything, the punishment was totaly reeprof.. i have also exampel from elder as have use girls under 15 fore porniea, and the punishment was only steep down as an elder.. some very hard things to deal widh fore mee and some alse as now this.. i can also ask one more qestion, wt have told us to tell evrythnig bad we do at once, but if we hide it fore a long time, how will it effeckt the puishment?.
softer or harder , intresting to see what your answer on this is, i new it and will tell later.. ..
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lovinlife
Happyman, I was disfellowshipped for "the appearance of evil". In fact I had the man stay to protect me from my stalking and abusive ex husband. They disfellowshipped me anyway. What a good point about the child abuse issue. You are absolutely right. What hypocrites!
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questions from a newbie!
by lfwalli inok i'm too impatient to look through all the old posts..so hear me out.. i'm studying with witnesses, but not yet baptized.
i was raised around the truth.. i've looked through some of the old posts and i have heard alot about the shunning of former "members".
i've been told that this is not a scriptural practice.
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lovinlife
Ifwalli, Jw shunning is a somewhat different thing than what is referred to in the Bible once you have experienced it. There are many here who have, myself included. You may feel that it is understandable not to associate with someone who has chosen a lifestyle that renounces Christ--that is what the JWs like to put out there. However, investigate the many reasons why Jws will in fact disfellowship someone. You will find that there are many reasons that do not refer to "denouncing Christ" or anything like that. You will find that one of the many varied reasons for disfellowshipping can be as simple as not following the counsel of an elder in the congregation (an imperfect man, by the way), but for them, this constitutes your disobeying the organization that they say Jehovah is using today.
Your coming here is a very good way to find out what the experience of shunning is really like. I can tell you that I am disfellowshipped and shunned because when my ex-husband (and elder) was stalking me, yes, really stalking me, and the police could not catch him and he would come at night and frighten me, I finally got desperate. I was afraid for my safety since I had been beaten by him before. So I asked a friend to stay with me--a man. Well, since I had a man overnight in my house, it was assumed that I was being unfaithful to the man I left 8 years earlier for beating and abusing me. These elders all knew the story of my life with him. I was not unfaithful to him since I could not trust any man to treat me well at that time. My friend slept on my couch by the front door to protect me. As it turns out, the ex did come that night and I was totally grateful that his presence scared the ex away from banging on the door at all different hours of the night. Because that man was in my house, I was dragged into a judicial hearing and then, no matter what I said, I was disfellowshipped for being an unrepentant wrongdoer because I could not say that I was sorry that I had that man there to protect me. You may think that this is a far fetched story, but it is not. I have the many police reports to prove the beatings and stalkings.
If you want to read the extent of my shunning from my family, read my post from yesterday about disfellowshipping. All I can say is be very careful about committing to this religion because you will find it very painful to get out. I'm so glad you are here asking questions. Never feel shy about asking anything, we are here to help!
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I saw one of the elders from my judicial committee today.....
by outbutnotdown ini was df'd about 12 years ago and i saw one of the elders form my judicial committee for the first time in about 11 and 1/2 years today.
i was at the mcdonald's playland with three of my four beautiful children, and i went up to the counter to get something they had forgotten to give me and there he was..... standing a foot from me, in typical saturday morning service garb.
i was taken by surprise but my instant reaction was going to be to thank him for kicking me out.... since, even though it has not always been easy, it is still the best thing that ever happened to me.
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lovinlife
Brad, in view of my post earlier today, I really appreciate what you said. You are right, they probably are the ones hurting the most inside. But, more than anything, I agree with you that so many of them seem hollow inside-like there is no true emotion or feeling in them. I am sure it comes from years of being told how to feel and how to think. Wow, I am so glad not be like them anymore...I don't want to feel hollow inside! Thanks for the post, it was great.
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Harsh reality of disfellowshipping
by lovinlife inhi everybody, it has been forever since i have been here!
i have missed you.
i had some harsh reality of disfellowshipping thrown in my face yesterday that made me realize how much i have missed being here with all you lovely people.
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lovinlife
XQ, I so totally agree with you. They really have no excuse. My friend, also df'd, says that after this emergency eases alittle, I should write them a letter and eloquently tell them what I think of the way they are going beyond what is written and how inhumane I feel that they are toward their own daughter. No sure I am going to do that just yet with the situation so dire with sis in law, but maybe later. But no matter what I say, they will justify it. As you can guess, they are very controlling people. And they can be rather self-righteous--kind of like the Pharasees going beyong what what written and instead of just washing their hands, they made sure they washed up to their elbows! I really feel sorry for them most of the time.
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Harsh reality of disfellowshipping
by lovinlife inhi everybody, it has been forever since i have been here!
i have missed you.
i had some harsh reality of disfellowshipping thrown in my face yesterday that made me realize how much i have missed being here with all you lovely people.
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lovinlife
I so appreciate all your thoughts. I agree that they are disfunctional and that this treatment goes beyond the Watchtower thing. I feel that they are punishing me for not living my life the way they taught me and that it reflects on them and so I have embarrassed them in the cong. My parents are particularly affected by what others think. They instilled that in me and so it took a long time to get that out of me.
XQ, I know what you mean about how what they are doing is not coming from the WT, or written in the elders manual etc. I remember previous posts about it and realized then how much farther my parents carry their treatment of me than is really necessary to please the elders/org etc.
I appreciate you all so much! Thanks for helping me to feel better and to get things back into a better perspective!
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Harsh reality of disfellowshipping
by lovinlife inhi everybody, it has been forever since i have been here!
i have missed you.
i had some harsh reality of disfellowshipping thrown in my face yesterday that made me realize how much i have missed being here with all you lovely people.
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lovinlife
Thank you all for your thoughts. I appreciate the comment to tell the elders, but when my exhusband was beating me (an elder at the time) they did not do anything to him or anything to help. So, I don't really think that they will have anything to say to my Dad, the presiding overseer of the cong they attend (at least he was last time I heard!) But blasting away at them is always a pleasant thought!!!
I am planning on writing my brother a note, since I am not in Florida, expressing my unconditional love for him etc. I refuse to lower myself their level by ignoring his pain. I want to show him as much love as I can. Maybe he will see a difference in the way I am being treated, but I doubt it. I am so glad I am away from these people. You all probably understand this, but sometimes I really miss the idea of having my family around, but I don't really miss them personally at all!
Thank you all so much for your caring.