as a regular pioneer and even if she gave a gift, she'd be removed as a pioneer!
this woman is 80 years old and has been pioneering for over 40 years.
my mother also is a pioneer in a different congregation and she is wondering whether this is a new rule from the society or is something that the local congregation has decided.
TALK ABOUT CONTROL!!!!!...... by these power--hungry Pharisees My daughter is not dfd. She simply is marrying an unbeliever.
I'm very sorry to hear about this minimus. Your right, it is another, in an almost endless list of abuses of authority by the minions of the GB!
come to the wedding.
' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.
' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.
Your post is waaay to long for me to read...sorry. Thanks for your trouble.
"Brevity is the soul of wit."
i'm working on the play version of father's touch and i need a few lines that explain witness doctrine on a. what's wrong with the catholic church.
b. why the cross, rosary, etc.
are false idols.
Hello,
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The short version works for me...Cuts right to the chase. Although (with my Tums handy) the unabridged WT is very nice too. Either way, I appreciate your doing these Threads Blondie.
"Once again the WTS reaches back into the OT for a lesson to teach Christians."
Jesus freed peoples minds and taught them to THINK and QUESTION life and those who would lead them. That's not the agenda of the GB/Pharisees
We see impressive scientific and technological advances accompanied by a dramatic decline in moral values.
Science and technology are E-V-I-L!one scholar wrote:
One of OUR people wrote...
Our talents, our achievements, and our privileges should never make us haughty.
"Translation: Don?t pursue music, sports, education, or anything else that will make you feel special."
True. Don't excell at anything or rise above the crowd.
"Do Not Avenge Yourselves"
David refused to harm Saul. Exercising faith and patience, he was content to leave matters in the hands of Jehovah.Translation: Wait on Jehovah
This is why they didn't use Jesus as an example. He told it like it was publicly ("hypocrites and white washed graves") and went into the Temple and kicked butt!
Though he knew that Saul was in the wrong, David did not avenge himself; neither did he speak abusively to Saul or about him. On several occasions, David restrained himself from taking matters into his own hands. Instead, he relied on Jehovah to set things straight.
Translation: Yes, if the elders/GB are wrong, don?t say anything and don?t sue them. Wait on Jehovah.
Are they worried about being killed?? Thats what David declined to do!
In any case, be assured that Jehovah sees your situation and will do something about it In his own due time.
How convieniant for them. To have to not have to face and deal with their errors and the just complaints of the congregation....And yes, Jehovah will do something about it since they won't correct themselves! Ezekiel 9:1,2,4,6 "...So they started with the old men that were before the house."
David?s generous heart moved him to do all he could to promote pure worship. Translation: Not enough JWs are giving their money to the WTS.
LOL, You got that right!! hahaha
Concluding Comments
Be like David Jesus.
Speak up now, God uses humans to accomplish his will.
Don?t wait for a miracle.
around 18 months ago or so i thought i heard about one (body of elders letter) that counseled elders that if they had committed fonication, and it had been awhile, and if they felt that god had forgiven them, that it was not necessarily a mandate that they confess to their fellow elders nor step down.
or, something to that effect.
does anyone remember that one or where i can get a copy?.
i specifically remember that being in a BOE letter.
If your right, then without a doubt the WTS has become a part of Christendom!
once in a while (sometimes in rapid succession), very insightful (or, shall we say: willing to share their hearts) people say something that just immediately cuts right to a totally exposed nerve...no thought needed, you just know right away that it has touched a tender spot in your soul, and you instinctively flinch.. without prior permission, but with editing, i'd like to share part of this personal message:if you can remember how you felt before you went to bethel...about a true brotherhood working together towards a common cause, where one is your leader and all you are brothers...it is a dream i cannot let go of.
another person was kind enough to describe it in the words of nathaniel hawthorne (of herman melville) - "he can neither believe nor be comfortable in his disbelief and is too honest not to try to do one or the other.".
this brought tears to my eyes...oh how true!
I appreciate your explanation Brummie because when I first read onacruise's quote my mind got into a bit of a knot. I knew something was there but couldn't quite see it. LOL Now that I see it, I LIKE IT!
"I have a dream."I have always believed the Witnesses are God's people and that all the problems/errors are of human origin. Their a lot like ancient Israel.
do you think its right to ridicule jws on this forum or reason with them?
so many threads.
so many strong personalities.
I noticed in reading your overall posts Scoob you seem to be torn between two worlds and having an identity crisis. You should pic a side and stay with it. Hot or cold remember?
So my question is, what does that achieve? Do you think it helps others that might be lurking here (I don't think so) Is it for the forums benefit (You never guess what I did with a WT mag!) or is it just a laugh at the JWs expense?
I don't think anyone here (including myself) appreciates you trying to be our conscience.
Was it you masquerading here as Proud Witness???
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i think when we post here we are rubing each other by a kind of energy that seems to be moving us in a good direction,, .
it is very weird but has anybody else felt this??
Does posting here build your character??? Has It Help you in any way???
Rebuild my character actualy from the erosion caused to my individuality by the not-so-spirit directed organization of God. Plus, for years I felt alone, out numbered, I don't feel that way anymore.
...normally I dont or try not to think of many of them and keep them surpressed in the back of my head.
Forty
There was a time when I could tell you EVERY WRONG that I had experianced and when it happened. I was consumed with anger to the point of having chest pains. I had to let it ALL go. It felt a little funny at first, but as time went by I was freed from my anger. When it occasionaly comes up I put the thoughts out of my mind and focus on something else...Their not worth it and I'm NOT going to let them destroy my peace anymore. That's why I left. Maybe it'll be the same with your depression? After all, we deserve better.
just a little tid bit that probably is more fluff than stuff.. .
when i attend an elders school in escondito,,ca i think it was maybe 1992 (r maybe it was later in central ca not sure of that detail) samuel herd (then a do) and merlton campbell (sevice dept.
) conducted the school.
,,"It OK for a Governing Body member to go over time any time he see the need and nobody has authority to stop him because he was a member of the GB."
This is so arrogant (and totaly believable) it makes me want to PUKE!
2 for me---the doctrine of the "faithful and discreet slave" and the whole "blood thing"......and you?????
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Gee, there are so many good ones here. I always thought 7000 years for each Creative Day was a joke!
