Posts by Flash

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The Watchtower trembles before appostates.

by edmond dantes in

instead of disfellowshipping for appostacy why don't the witlesses just tell the so called apostates, it's ok ,just don't disrupt the meetings.if they did this would there be less hassle all round.

other organisations have different allied sections but the whacktower org.

isn't strong enough to embrace dissent , it stands on very shaky ground as regard doctrine and practice.in fact they don't know the first thing about good practice they need a suggestion box in the kingdumb hall for a start and a few lessons in democracy wouldn't go amiss.all dictatorships are afraid of the voice of the people.

Flash

Today the WTS labels ALL dissent apostacy.

Bad leadership breeds rebellion. They're reaping what they are sowning.

1 Kings 12

1 Rehoboam went to Shechem, for all Israel had come to Shechem to make him king.

2 And when Jeroboam the son of Nebat heard of it (for he was still in Egypt, whither he had fled from King Solomon), then Jeroboam returned from Egypt.

3 And they sent and called him; and Jeroboam and all the assembly of Israel came and said to Rehoboam,

4 "Your father made our yoke heavy. Now therefore lighten the hard service of your father and his heavy yoke upon us, and we will serve you."

6 Then King Rehoboam took counsel with the old men, who had stood before Solomon his father while he was yet alive, saying, "How do you advise me to answer this people?"

7 And they said to him, "If you will be a servant to this people today and serve them, and speak good words to them when you answer them, then they will be your servants for ever."

14 he spoke to them according to the counsel of theyoung men, saying, "My father made your yoke heavy, but I will add to your yoke; my father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions. "

16 And when all Israel saw that the king did not hearken to them, the people answered the king,

"What portion have we in David? We have no inheritance in the son of Jesse. To your tents, O Israel! Look now to your own house, David."

So Israel departed to their tents.

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SO did you buy your Girl Scout cookies...

by zeroday in

jw
friends

i'm sitting here enjoying a box of samoas...that's right i don't just eat one i eat the entire box...

Flash

Yes, more than I should have. Thin Mints and Do-Si-Dos.

Thin Mints: The most enduring and universally familiar Girl Scout cookie. These round, mint-flavored cookies covered with dark chocolate perennially sell the most boxes of any cookie. Thin Mints have never changed their name. Little Brownie Bakers and ABC Bakers both make Thin Mints.

: A sandwich cookie. The round, bumpy perforated oatmeal cookie top and bottom surrounds a peanut butter-flavored layer inside. Do-Si-Dos® (formerly Gauchos) are baked by Little Brownie Bakers. ABC Bakers calls them Peanut Butter Sandwiches.

: These shortbread cookies are shaped like the Girl Scout Trefoil design. Scot Teas were a similar, lighter sugar cookie made by the now defunct Burry. These cookies come in a blue box. Little Brownie Bakers calls them Trefoils; ABC Bakers call them Shortbread.

: These are round cookies with a layer of peanut butter on top, and covered in chocolate. These cookies come in a red box. Little Brownie Bakers calls them Tagalongs®; ABC Bakers call them Peanut Butter Patties®.

® or Caramel deLites®: These are round doughnut-shaped cookies about two inches in diameter with a hole in the center, covered in caramel and toasted coconut, and then striped with chocolate. Samoas® are made by Little Brownie Bakers. The ABC version is called Caramel deLites®.

: A shortbread cookie with a layer of chocolate fudge on the bottom and Girl Scout related sayings on the top. All Abouts deliver the exciting and essential messages of the new Girl Scout Leadership Development Model. They come in a pink box, and are made by Little Brownie Bakers.

™: A shortbread cookie with a layer of fudge on the bottom and the words "Thank You" in English, French, Chinese, Swahili or Spanish embossed on the top. Thanks-A-Lots™ have been made by ABC Bakers since 2006 and were preceded by a similar cookie called the Animal Treasure.

: New for 2008, they feature a design of Our Chalet in Switzerland. This sandwich cookie has a touch of cinnamon-ginger spice that evokes the warmth of a fireside chat on a snowy evening; they are made by Little Brownie Bakers.

: New for 2008, Sugar Free Chocolate Chip Cookies give those who need or prefer sugar free products have a new way to support Girl Scouting—and a scrumptious new snack at bedtime, or any time! They are made by Little Brownie Bakers.

™: New for 2008, Cinna-Spins™ make it easy to snack smart by doing the calorie counting for you! Each carton contains five ready-to-grab-and-go 100 calorie packs full of crispy cinnamon swirls; they are made by ABC Bakers.

: Introduced in 2006, these shortbread cookies are stamped in the shape of a sliced lemon with a tangy lemon icing. They are made by ABC Bakers and replace the Lemon Pastry Creme.

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Repudiate "Valueless Things" 4/15/08 WT

by bud2114 in

hot off the presses - just some of the latest garbage coming out of brooklyn as found in the 1st study article - repudiate "valueless things" (4/15/08 koolaid edition wt): .

par 17: another example of valueless words is found among the religious leaders of christendom.

these claim to speak in god's name, but most of their utterances are not based on the scriptures, and what they have to say is basically worthless.

Flash

Not to worry because God sees and will save all those who love Him and will positively punish all those abusing and 'Lording it over' others in His name. Luke 12: 45 ~ 48

Ezekiel 9: 3 ~ 10

10. "And as for me also, my eye will not feel sorry, neither shall I show compassion. Their way I shall certainly bring upon their own head."

Luke 11: 52

"Woe to you who are versed in the Law, because you took away the key of knowledge; you yourselves did not go in, and those going in you hindered!"

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Anyone here collect foreign currency as a hobby?

by AK - Jeff in

i would like to begin a collection - but i am not sure the best resources so that i don't get ripped off.

anyone know of a forum that discusses this hobby?

i did a google and the category is so broad i don't know where to start.

Flash

Try Banknotes International on e-Bay.

http://stores.ebay.com/Banknotes-International

The one order I placed went very well, no complaints. I would buy from them again.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-5-07 WT Study (Obedience)

by blondie in

and secondly, it has set apart the real followers of jesus christ, the true servants of jehovah god, from all others who profess to be christians but are such in name only.. *** w59 3/1 p. 148 par.

yes, we can give him something very precious.

" (proverbs 27:11) we can give god our obedience.

Flash

START OF ARTICLE
Q1) What spirit permeates today's society?
1) A spirit of independence and disobedience permeates the world today.

Right at the start they begin their Repitious Programming.

Why did God allow the Israelites to continually disobey but then in 70 CE allowed them to be destroyed as a nation?

One of my big complaints to God has been His Management Style.

He sets something in motion then walks away from it... Then gets upset when it didn't turn out like He wanted.

The WTS teaches that God is going to destroy eternally all 6.5 billion people on earth today who are not jws, including their minor children.

God's track record hasn't been good in this area. IMO He has relied heavily on Legal Technicalities concerning the Law of His Mouth to arbitrarily show favor or condem people. I've complained to Him about this also.

I pray regularly that He not let Satan have a bigger influence over everyone but for Him to exert Himself and save/rescue ALL the good hearted people of earth, men, women and young children whether they know Him correctly or not.

What happened to prayer and Bible study, unadulterated by the opinions of others?

Jesus never taught us to form congregations rigid with rules. Actualy He never taught us to form congregations at all. That came from the well meaning but over zealous and misguided ex-Pharisee Paul. This is yet another example of God largely being MIA in overseeing His people.

Love for God motivates us--or fear of dying at Armageddon

Both.

Even though God loves us, lawlessness cannot be tolorated indefinately. So we have to live within His standards to keep alive. That however does not mean never voicing a complaint to Him about His laws. Like children speaking up about what they like, dislike, want or don't want, yet in the end, whether they were persuasive or not, have to obey their parents law.

Are the commands of men, commands from God?
(Matthew 15:9) 9 It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”

Only if they are truthfully repeating the laws out of His or Jesus mouth.

jws serve God for the reward promised in Hebrews 11:6................would you have served God without the promise of everlasting life on a paradise earth?

Motivated self interest is not wrong. If it turns to selfish greed then it is. Its not wrong to want to stay alive or even better yet, to live in a time and place where everyone CHOOSES to be peaceful and considerate with each other.

The Master is coming and every one who is sanctimonious in their religion will be dealt with harshly. Personaly, I think the Witnesses are at the TOP of Jesus Hit List.

Thanks Blondie!

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What is the NEW BUZZ in the Org?

by Save My Soul in

there is a new wt arrangement, the 1935 change, the 30 minute public talk among other things.

some have even said they would stop talking doom and gloom, can someone please confirm this?.

what is the perception of these things among those active in the org?

Flash

The GB is causing the WTS to 'run in place.'

No real progress just Distraction Tactics and Damaged Control.

...The Master is coming.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-29-07 WT Study (Wonderfully Made)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 7-29-07 wt study (june 15, 2007, pages 21-25)((wonderfully made).

review comments will be in red.

can one follow jesus without following the wts?

Flash

"WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LET OTHERS (other than the WTS) THINK FOR US"
Does this sound like the WTS lets its members do their own thinking?
*** w94 10/1 p. 8 The Bible—A Book Meant to Be Understood *** Even as Bible prophecy pointed forward to the Messiah, it also directs us to the close-knit body of anointed Christian Witnesses that now serve as the faithful and discreet slave. It helps us to understand the Word of God. All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave. —John 6:68.
Do you have a similar favorite quote from the WTS publications?

This is an excellant example of the GB's true feelings toward the congregation.

Q16) What can we learn from David's close relationship with Jehovah?
Did God see that David was going to set up the murder of one man and steal his wife?
David chose bad--was God guiding him then?

IMO,

That God has had His "favorites."
Yes.
He let David choose his own life's course. On 'this side' of Armageddon people are allowed to commit lawlessness to the farthest degree...not so after Armageddon.

If these moral standards apply to everyone,
why did David not lose his life as a murderer and an adulterer as the Law code proscribed?
Were other Israelites having the punishment waived and
was David "special" because he was king?

Because God's law was given to Humans to apply to each other. God as Law Giver is not bound to those laws. Jehovah dealt directly with David and so the Human to Human Law didn't apply.
Not to my knowledge. Actualy, when David followed Satan's direction and took a Census God allowed David to choose his own punisment...David chose for Israel to suffer in his place.
No, God had to deal with David directly because of His making a covenant with David before his sins earned him the Death Pentalty.

Thanks Blondie!

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Resurrection or Truth

by XJWNB in

not sure if this has ever been brought up.

but because of thsi forum and the realization that things said in the jw empire are not true.

do you still believe in the resurrection hope?

Flash

Not sure if this has ever been brought up. But because of thsi forum and the realization that things said in the JW Empire are not true. Do you still believe in the resurrection hope?

Yes definately. Jesus did it, experianced it and promised it. My belief in the resurrection has nothing to do with what the WTS teaches.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-8-07 WT Study (RESURRECTION REAL?)

by blondie in

this is a test.

for friday night when the article will be posted in its entirety.. comments you will not hear at the 7-8-07 wt study (may 15, 2007, pages 26-29)(resurrection real to you?).

review comments will be in red.

Flash

I wonder how many of those that die during the GT will be resurrected? Those who are killed at Armageddon I know will not be.

The GT as I read Jesus words, isn't coming from God, but He does "end it" with Armageddon.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-17-07 WT Study (DO NOT PUT APART)

by blondie in

do not put apart what god has yoked together.

therefore, what god has yoked together let no man put apart.

(b) why do the principles found in god's word really work, even when problems arise in a marriage?.

Flash

Does the WTS mislead by using snippets, out of context?

I'm sure to tailor the "Inspired Word" to give the answer they want given.

Does the rank and file look up to see what the rest of the scripture says?

Who has the time with their smothering "spirtiual program"?

In early Israelite times, under the Law, men could divorce a woman but a woman could not divorce a man. Why was that?

No doubt another brilliant idea from Moses! Matthew 19: 7 ~ 9

WAIT ON JEHOVAH

We are all imperfect, especially the elders.

Always we hide behind the fact we are imperfect when Poor Judgement is often the REAL problem.

The Angels who rebeled were "perfect." Adam and Eve before they rebeled were PERFECT.

Poor judgement (which originates from our hearts) is the real threat to our lives. That is why we must guard our hearts with our mind and intellectual capabilities.

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Thank for this weeks Review!

I'm sorry to hear your still having health issues Blondie.